Subbarama Dikshitar

Carnatic composers (other than performing vidwans)
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Ashwin
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Post by Ashwin »

Dear Rasikas,

2006 marks the death centenary of subbarAma dIkShitar (1839-1906), scion of the dIkShitar family and author of the monumental 1904 musical treatise sangIta sampradAya pradarSini. He is regarded by scholars as having been an oustanding musicologist, practical musician, and composer, although many of his compositions are unknown. I invite fellow Rasikas to use this thread to discuss his life, times, and the dIkShitar family in general. Perhaps the most fitting tribute to subbarAma dIkShitar would be to discuss his compositions and post recordings where available.

Ashwin

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Post by drshrikaanth »

Ashwin
Good of you to have started this thread. SubbarAma dIkShitar`s contribution in the form of SSP can only be understood if one, for a few moments, contemplates how it would have been had there been no SSP. What a masterpiece indeed!
I(we) look forward to postings of recordings of SD`s racanes from you rendered by SRJ/ursself or others.

My suggestion would be to keep out MD from this thread and stick to SD and RD and any other dIkShitars if known. Introducing MD will be like opening the Pandora`s box or cornucopia depending on how you look at it.

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Post by cmlover »

Could we have a biography to start with please!

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Post by meena »

Changed moi mind, deleted the articles i had collected and posted here :/
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Post by cmlover »

Thanks meena!

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Post by cmlover »

That is incomplete! Any idea when the whole book will be available?

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Post by drshrikaanth »

It is complete in so much as the 72 mELas are concerned. Are you referring to the anubandhas in the original SSP?

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Post by meena »

DRS
Vaggeyakara Caritam (Bio), how many composers are listed in the original SSP?

sangeetham site ran a SSP article in parts, has anyone saved this?
can it be posted here?
(on chennaionline, only few parts are available)

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Post by drshrikaanth »

Meena
I dont have part SSP with me but I am pretty sure there were more vAggEyakAra biographies than in the PDF file. (at least 3 times the nuber here)

Thanks for the linls. All these days I thought only the Suddhamadhyama mELas had been covered.

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Post by cmlover »

My apologies!
I did not realize the vol III completion. I have not seen the original SSP (neither will I understand) nor the SRJ's magnum opus but am pretty sure the one in the Net is not the complete SSP (over 1000 pages!).

Can we repost the SSP parts published in Sangeetham? I thought they are copy righted! Also there must be an archive which will be available when sangeetham springs back from its ashes!

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Post by meena »

DRS
thanks for the info

Lji
In the tamil edition how many composers bio's are listed?

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Reading the VAGGYARA CARITAMU is a blast. In addition to the stories, it provides great history lessons about a few parts of Tanjore district that I grew up in. I do not think our high school history classes ever went into this much detail.

Now I know who was instrumental in building all those steps on the banks of the river Cauvery between Thiruvayyaru and Mayuram. The very steps that I myself have stepped on to many times ( some were in pretty bad shape so probably they were the original ;) ).

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

There is a foot note that Sangıta Sudhanidhi by Govinda Dikshithar has been found ( which Sri SD himself declared it does not exist) and an edition published by Music Academy. I wonder if someone had done a comparative study of the Science of Music in Sangita Sudhanidhi and SSP? Easy for me to ask, you say...

When you all talk about 'parts posted in Sangeetham', what are you referring to? Is that the english translation ( then I wonder why when we already have them all conveniently at 'ibiblio' ) or some scanned copies of the original Telugu or the Tamil translation? If it is the tamil translation, oh yes, I will be interested in them as well....

We should be able to peel them off from archive.org if you know the whereabouts in the original sangeetham website.

Thanks.

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Post by Lakshman »

Meena: There are no bio entries of any vaggeyakaras in the tamil edition.

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Post by meena »

Lji
thanku

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

www.archive.org is a hit or miss but in this case it is a hit. They have the 6 parts... ( I do not know what the copy right situation with archive.org is. Usually if the site does not prevent the scan, archive.org archives them)

http://web.archive.org/web/200401192115 ... /ssp1.php3
http://web.archive.org/web/200401192115 ... /ssp2.php3
http://web.archive.org/web/200401192115 ... /ssp3.php3
http://web.archive.org/web/200401192115 ... /ssp4.php3
http://web.archive.org/web/200401192115 ... /ssp5.php3
http://web.archive.org/web/200401192115 ... /ssp6.php3

Also, google 'Cached' pages have them too.

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Post by Ashwin »

To revive this thread, I am posting a recording of this beautiful rAgamAlikA composition of subbarAma dIkShitar, rendered by SRJ Mama (Rohin and I accompany). If I remember correctly, someone once said on the previous avatAram of this forum that Rama Ravi has also rendered this rAgamAlikA - if anyone has access to a recording, please post it here.

http://rapidshare.de/files/16230943/gAr ... r.MP3.html

Ashwin

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Post by knrh05 »

I have a copy of Rama Ravi's rendition but unfortunately cannot upload as it has been commercially released by Carnatica.

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Post by cmlover »

meena lyrics please!

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Post by meena »

gAravamu ganna (varNa). rAgAmAlikA. rUpaka tALA.

(rAgA: kalyANi)
1: gAravamu ganna doreyani kalyANi valaciyunnAdira
(svara sAhitya)
kAmAri suta guruguka kumArA ninu dalaci ghanambuga
manambuna dinambunu nutimpucu polupuna kalyANi
2: vEru dalaca gUDadurA vEga tODitemmanerA
(svara sAhitya)
rArA celi nalacuTamErA kalagenurA vArijAkSayika
nimiSamu jUDa guNDadurAtamini vEga
(rAgA: sAvEri)
3: sAreku sarasAvEriti cAna vEDukonnadirA
(svara sAhitya)
talapuna vapu nilupalEka kaliki sadA liki celuva kalaya
gani bilici celuvumIra piluvu manucucAna
(rAgA: aThANA)
4: mAruDu bahaThAna kusuma bANamEya solaserA
(svara sAhitya)
shIdAmshu kiraNamu cikhiyai mIra naLipika sukani
nAdamulu vInulakunu cAla shUlamuga velayaga bANamEya
(rAgA: nIlAmbari)
5: nIraja gandhikAkacE nIlAmbariyaina dIrA
(svara sAhitya)
nI pAdamule gatiyani palAru bakenurA sarOja kisalaya
shayanamuna bodala pirALini bedari nIlAmbari
(rAgA: maNirangu)
6: mA rAmA maNiranguni madinanci pUjincunu
(svara sAhitya)
vandAru jana shubhakara mandAra parama puruSa
varadAyaka yaghahara sharaNAgata bhayaharayani madi
(rAgA: kAmbhOji)
7: vArakasu kAmbhOdhi vanita gUDi dElumurA
(svara sAhitya)
nI dAnanani nenaruna mannincu mA kramamuna
parAku sEyaka durusuga niratambuna saratambuna vanita
(rAgA: mukhAri)
8: vIra dashamukhAri sEtu vibhu bhAskara mahIpAla
(svara sAhitya)
sakala surAsura sEvita shrI rAjarAjEshvarIkaruNA kaTAkSa
labdha sakala bhAgya dhurandharuDagu shrI bhAskara
(rAgA: mOhana)
9: tIrunElu shrI kArtikEya divyaq mOhana shikhai vAhana kAruNyAmrta
jaladhi gAvA kAvava surasa daya divya mOhana shikhi vAhana

The following 9 lines are to be sung starting with mOhana and going backwards with the order of rAgAs and finishing with the pallavi ?gAravamu?.

9: nirupama guNanidhiyadirA
8: nelata mogamu nelayakurA
7: kurulanu mogalandururA
6: kumbha kucamulu galadirA
5: sarasa kalAnidhiyadirA
4: sannutAgi nEcakurA
3: varusagatami dAcakurA
2: varuDa nigayi koninadirA
1: taruNi nElaniditadirA


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Post by cmlover »

Super Meena
Thanks very much

Now Kiran/Others kindly give us a translation!

This is just wonderful!

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Post by meena »

ashwin
did Prof SRJ provide u the meaning or the gist of the varna? if so can u pl. share it with us.

kiran/others
pl. go ahead with ur beautiful work.

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Post by cmlover »

meena/ashwin

Do you also have the svaras for the svarasahitya?

That will be real nice!

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Post by Lakshman »

CML: If you email me your mailing address I can send you the SSP (tamil) if you wish.

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Post by meena »

cml

nope :(

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meena/ashwin

Do you also have the svaras for the svarasahitya?

That will be real nice!
You are not putting to use your own resources. Those socil comitments again? ;)

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Post by kiransurya »

CML/Meena
Iam kinda lost in translation here ;) I will do it over the week end..

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Post by cmlover »

Thanks DRS!

Indeed I was lost with my social obligations. And I needed a prodding. Do make some allowance for my aging brain ;)


kiran

Juat take your time and thanks in advance!

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gAravamu ganna (varNa). rAgAmAlikA. rUpaka tALA.

(rAgA: kalyANi)
1: gAravamu ganna doreyani kalyANi valaciyunnAdira
(svara sAhitya)

Since you are a Glorious leader, this damsel(kalyani) fancies you..

kAmAri suta guruguka kumArA ninu dalaci ghanambuga
manambuna dinambunu nutimpucu polupuna kalyANi

Oh Guruguha, you are the son of Lord shiva(kaamari), It is you ardently this damsel thinks of, day and night..

2: vEru dalaca gUDadurA vEga tODitemmanerA
(svara sAhitya)
rArA celi nalacuTamErA kalagenurA vArijAkSayika
nimiSamu jUDa guNDadurAtamini vEga

No one else can ever be loved/worshipped like you by this woman. She can`t stay a single second without thinking of you and without you.. Come and be united with her..

(rAgA: sAvEri)
3: sAreku sarasAvEriti cAna vEDukonnadirA
(svara sAhitya)
talapuna vapu nilupalEka kaliki sadA liki celuva kalaya
gani bilici celuvumIra piluvu manucucAna

She, in her every thought is hoping that you would listen to her plea and give her a glance.....

(rAgA: aThANA)
4: mAruDu bahaThAna kusuma bANamEya solaserA
(svara sAhitya)
shIdAmshu kiraNamu cikhiyai mIra naLipika sukani
nAdamulu vInulakunu cAla shUlamuga velayaga bANamEya

She couldnt bear the torture of Cupids flower studded arrows, Peahens melodious singing. They are piercing her heart...

(rAgA: nIlAmbari)
5: nIraja gandhikAkacE nIlAmbariyaina dIrA
(svara sAhitya)
nI pAdamule gatiyani palAru bakenurA sarOja kisalaya
shayanamuna bodala pirALini bedari nIlAmbari
She smells of lotuses and she wears black silks, she always meditates on your lotus feet..

(rAgA: maNirangu)
6: mA rAmA maNiranguni madinanci pUjincunu
(svara sAhitya)
vandAru jana shubhakara mandAra parama puruSa
varadAyaka yaghahara sharaNAgata bhayaharayani madi
(rAgA: kAmbhOji)
Oh god! you are clad in all this gold jewellery, you are the refuge for everyone with all kinds of problems, and you are the role model..


7: vArakasu kAmbhOdhi vanita gUDi dElumurA
(svara sAhitya)
nI dAnanani nenaruna mannincu mA kramamuna
parAku sEyaka durusuga niratambuna saratambuna vanita
This woman is from Khambhoja and please dont ignore her and dont delay in noticing her.. She cant stand this anymore

(rAgA: mukhAri)
8: vIra dashamukhAri sEtu vibhu bhAskara mahIpAla
(svara sAhitya)
sakala surAsura sEvita shrI rAjarAjEshvarIkaruNA kaTAkSa
labdha sakala bhAgya dhurandharuDagu shrI bhAskara
You have killed the Raavana, You built the bridge to Lanka and you were born in the Surya Vamsa, You are worshipped by all the gods..

(rAgA: mOhana)
9: tIrunElu shrI kArtikEya divyaq mOhana shikhai vAhana kAruNyAmrta
jaladhi gAvA kAvava surasa daya divya mOhana shikhi vAhana

Oh karhtikeya of tirunelu(Place???) you have a beautiful peacock for taking you hither and thither, you are an ocean of kindness..

9: nirupama guNanidhiyadirA
She is an embodiment of all good qualities

8: nelata mogamu nelayakurA
Dont depress that lotous face

7: kurulanu mogalandururA
Her hair is like a mass of balck clouds

6: kumbha kucamulu galadirA
Her bosom is full

5: sarasa kalAnidhiyadirA
She is a trove of all the romance..

4: sannutAgi nEcakurA
Join her

3: varusagatami dAcakurA
Dont be coy

2: varuDa nigayi koninadirA
Both of you deserve each other and no one else

1: taruNi nElaniditadirA
She is only yours..




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Post by kiransurya »

Iam sorry if I couldnt bring the original lyrical beauty of this piece...

Have to say that its one great piece of both musically and lyrically...
God bless Subbarama Diskhitar..

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Kiran

That is just amazing! You are quicker than my keystrokes at the computer!

Thank you very much!

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;)

coolkarni

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can I have a list of compositions please ??

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Post by Lakshman »

Subbarama Dikshitar's compositions:

Chakra khandita nakra?Shuddhadhanyasi?Dhruvarupakam
Chakra khandita nakra (lkg)?Udayaravichandrika?Dhruvarupakam
Dhiraja sannuta maharaja sevita shri (tv)?Balahamsa?Ata
E kanakambari?Ragamalika?Adi
Emamma nanu brochutaku inta tamasame?Maruva?Adi
Emani ne telusu?Mukhari?Adi
Emani pogadudune (daru)?Paraju--T/Eka
Enduku ra ra i kopamu na sami enu nikdarara idi?Ragamalika?Rupaka
Engal valli deyvayanai?Mohana?Chapu
Entani ne delupudura elagu taludura (pv)?Khamas--T/Eka
Garavamu gannana doreyani kalyani valachiyunnadhir?Ragamalika?Rupaka
Intamodi elara nikidi meragadura (tv)?Darbar?Ata
Kaminchina kalavatira karuninchutakiditadira?Ragamalika
Kanakambari neneyumu yimpu mira mrdu madhura?Ragamalika?Adi
Kantimati karunamira kantimati nosagumamma Kalyani?Rupaka
Kayavayya nannu?Ragamalika
Kshinimida marulu konnadi valachinada (tv)?Shahana?Ata
Manadodinangina madu midu?Ragamalika?Adi
Mangalam jayamangalam?Vasanta?Adi
Mannaru ranga deva shriman?Nagagandhari?Rupaka
Ni sarilera ni korina nitya kalyaniyadira?Ragamalika
Parashakti parakela paratpari krparada?Shankarabharana?Rupaka
Pari kanni (svarapadam)?Kalyani--T/Eka
Parthasarathi ni sevimpani shri parthasarathini?Yadukulakambhoji?Adi
Priyamunayame kori vachchiti sarasagu?Ragamalika--T/Eka
Rajaja mana maharaja sevita shri (tv)?Athana?Ata
Rama ramakali kalushavirama dharabhrllalama?Ramakali?Rupaka
Sa dha pa ma ga pa (js)?Yamunakalyani?Adi
Sami entani delpudura sudati sugunamulu (cv)?Surati?Adi
Sami ni mahimalu telisi balkutaku?Bhairavi--T/Eka
Samkarshana sambhava?Shriranjani?Rupaka
Sarasa greshara saraguna sarasa kori (d)?Natanarayani?Eka
Sareku nitu modi jeyakara modi (cv)?Anandabhairavi?Adi
Shankaracharyam bhakta manova shankaracharyam?Shankarabharana?Adi
Shara kanana sambhava ashara kanana?Shriranjani?Rupaka
Shri kanchi kamakoti pitha abhishikta (tv)?Kamavardhini?Ata
Shri kartikeya?Darbar?Ata
Shri maha rajashrita (tv)?Athana?Ata
Shri raja raja raja mana maharaja sevita shri (tv)?Athana?Ata
Shri raja raja raja mana maharaja sevita shri (tv)?Purnachandrika?Ata
Shri rajadhi raja?Balahamsa?Ata
Shri rajivakshadi paripala shri (tv)?Yadukulakambhoji?Ata
Shri shiva ramashramulanu chintimpumi Bhairavi?Rupaka
Shri shri maharaja shrita kavibho (tv)?Athana?Ata
Shri vallipate pahimam chintitartha dayaka?Nagasvaravali--C/Eka
Shrikarudani ninnu kori vachchiti (d)?Yadukulakambhoji?Adi
Tripurasundari amba tripura sundari?Natakuranji?Rupaka
Valapu miri todi temmanera na sami vanneladi?Ragamalika?Rupaka
Varijakshi (tv)?Shahana?Ata
Vedukato kalyani vegame ninu rammenara?Ragamalika?Rupaka

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

Lji,
Thank you so much.

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Post by Ashwin »

Thanks kiransurya! To answer meena's query: after reviewing our lessons with SRJ Mama and listening once again to the meaning he provided, I found them to be very much in line with kiran's (and in some places identically worded!). I'm just blown away by the beautiful imagery...

A question for Lakshman Uncle (might be a stupid question :)) - are there compositions of subbarAma dIkShitar that are not provided in the SSP?

Ashwin

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Post by Lakshman »

The following songs are on my list but there are no references:
Emani nE telusu-mukhAri, engaL vaLLi dEvayAnai-mOhana, kanakAmbari neneyunu-rAgamAlikA, rAjaja mana maharAja sEvita-aThANA and shrI kArtikEya-darbAr.
The following songs have references:
Emasni pogaDudunE-paraju (Bala Shiksha Sampradaya), mangaLam jayamangaLam-vasantA (Dikshitar Kirtanamala/vol 14, shankarAcAryam-shankarAbharaNa (Dikshitar Kirtanamala/vol 11 and tripurasundari tODi-rAgamAlikA (Dikshitar Kirtanamala/vol 11. The songs valapu mIri tODi-rAgamAlika and pAri kaNNi (svarapada) have references to the telugu editions.
I did not check to see if any of the referenced songs are also in the tamil SSP.

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Post by kriasshnan »

Would anyone like to share a rendering of Shankaracharyam in the raga Shankarabharanam by the great Subbarama Dikshitar. Any rendering by Semmangudi/ MLV would be grateful. My mail id is kriasshnan@gmail.com

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Post by kriasshnan »

Any more renderings of Subbarama Dikshitar's kritis !!

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Post by nallanchakra »

I have a radio recording of alathur brothers singing the khamas pada varnam. If anyone is interested, i will convert fro tape and post it here.

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Post by kiransurya »

Nallanchakra

Please post it, if it doesnt fall under commerical category..

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Post by raviraj »

Nallanchakra,

Please post the same. Also does the concert have the rendering of Sri Matah -Begada-MD as well?

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Not sure, I will check and reply.

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<<Would anyone like to share a rendering of Shankaracharyam in the raga Shankarabharanam by the great Subbarama Dikshitar. >>

here it is .By Voleti

http://rapidshare.de/files/19921254/Vol ... m.mp3.html

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Does anyone have a recording of Subbarama Dikshitar's varNa in darbAr intamODi? Thanks.

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