Madurai G.S.Mani

Carnatic Musicians
coolkarni
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ragam-talam
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Post by ragam-talam »

rajeshnat wrote:kamalApta kula a brindavana saranga by thyagarAja
This one apparenly belongs to the list of kritis misattributed to Tyagaraja.

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Not according to our V Govindan who has truly researched Thyagaraja!
(Our Lakshman would be able to confirm too!)

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Post by PUNARVASU »

arasi,
well written; I havent heard him in person-only on TV; amazed with his voice an vidwat.

Reg. 'kamalApta kula'- it is a favourite song in our music class ,thanks to our Guru.Sounds beautiful in vINa too.
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Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

heard kamalAptakula by Sri mannakal Rangarajan
Available in sangeetapriya

rajeshnat
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Post by rajeshnat »

coolkarni wrote:kamalApta kula krithi , not heard from any artist who are in their era or in the previous golden period era.
Rajesh
Kamalapthakula appears quite often in Vintage BMKs scheme of things .
In the commercial album with Palladam on Harmonium , in BMK's Kensington Concert
Malladi Bros have sung it a couple of times for AIR
Cool, you are adding one more self taught musician BMK in addition to manakkAl and GS mani. In general this krithi was taken to concerts mostly by self taught musicians. BTW I have not heard gnb,mmi,ssi ,ariyakudi, and also mdr-tiger, musiri and TNS rendering kamalApta kula !!!

Is it possible that since malladi had sung , may be there is one by nedunuri ?
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S.NAGESWARAN
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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

Dear forum members,

A speech by Sri Madurai G.S.Mani in one of his concert stressing the importance of gliding the notes in Carnatic music
(Gamakas) with specific mention of gliding the note from "SA"

vsn207
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Post by vsn207 »

Dear All,

I requesting a re-upload of the lecdems on carnatic ragas and films by Shri. Madurai G. S. Mani. Thank you for your generosity in advance.

Vivek

balusatya
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Post by balusatya »

Just head TNS redering his composition "palimpa thamasama"on Meenakshi.-see index of manjunath

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Just head TNS redering his composition "palimpa thamasama"on Meenakshi.-see index of manjunath/carnatic/audio/095_TN_sheshagopalan-Vocal-houston_Tx-usa1998.

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

Respected vsn207,

Kindly visit my thread "Reminiscences of S.Nageswaran" Where in the first part of G.S.Mani's lec-dem on Carnatic music is uploaded.

S.NAGESWARAN.

vsn207
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Post by vsn207 »

Nageswaran Sir. Many thanks. Will you be posting subsequent parts as well?

Vivek

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

LEC-DEM on Carnatic music in Films by Sri Madurai G.S.Mani.

The download link of VOL 1 OF 3 of the LEG-DEM on Carnatic music in Films was provided in the thread of Chapter 05 of my Reminicisenses of S.NAGESWARAN.

The entire concert of the LEC-DEM on Carnatic music in Films are consolidated [3 VOLs] are given in the downward links given below for the Rasikas to enjoy. You may post your comments.

I have obtained the permission to upload the concert from Sri G.S.MANI..

VOL 1 OF 3 - G.S.MANI-CARNATIC MUSIC IN FILMS---14.05.09

MEDIA FIRE.COM-G.S.MANI-CARNATIC MUSIC IN FILMS.txt

[GSM-FILM SONGS]

VOL 2 OF 3 - G.S.MANI-CARNATIC MUSIC IN FILMS

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ex0z2jzfykh/01-Durbar.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ylwmozjxy ... aPriya.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ynnmbhwmjny/03-Kapi.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/witjl4mr4 ... urunji.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ezjygz2g5 ... rack05.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/wtymwdnmtyn/06-Todi.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mjmuzn2wx ... implas.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/knn44nw4q ... onpuri.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2q0gm3zwy ... ukalam.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kfxhdojt0 ... rack10.mp3


VOL 3 OF 3 - G.S.MANI-CARNATIC MUSIC IN FILMS---14.05.09

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1zdj2odhy ... ANJANI.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/dfnjjkukm ... RAVANI.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmi21dzlz ... NAVALI.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tmkhdy1wv ... DYAMAM.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gnyyozm4n ... OHANAM.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mlwdtzuyz ... APRIYA.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nmhzmmm4d ... airavi.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yhiyjirgo ... alyani.mp3

S.NAGESWARAN.

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

LEC-DEM on Carnatic music in Films by Sri Madurai G.S.Mani.

The download link of VOL 1 OF 3 of the LEG-DEM on Carnatic music in Films was provided in the thread of Chapter 05 of my Reminicisenses of S.NAGESWARAN.

The entire concert of the LEC-DEM on Carnatic music in Films are consolidated [3 VOLs] are given in the downward links given below for the Rasikas to enjoy. You may post your comments.

I have obtained the permission to upload the concert from Sri G.S.MANI..

VOL 1 OF 3 - G.S.MANI-CARNATIC MUSIC IN FILMS---14.05.09

http://rapidshare.com/files/228016296/Track01.mp3.html


VOL 2 OF 3 - G.S.MANI-CARNATIC MUSIC IN FILMS

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ex0z2jzfykh/01-Durbar.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ylwmozjxy ... aPriya.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ynnmbhwmjny/03-Kapi.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/witjl4mr4 ... urunji.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ezjygz2g5 ... rack05.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/wtymwdnmtyn/06-Todi.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mjmuzn2wx ... implas.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/knn44nw4q ... onpuri.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2q0gm3zwy ... ukalam.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kfxhdojt0 ... rack10.mp3


VOL 3 OF 3 - G.S.MANI-CARNATIC MUSIC IN FILMS---14.05.09

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1zdj2odhy ... ANJANI.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/dfnjjkukm ... RAVANI.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmi21dzlz ... NAVALI.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tmkhdy1wv ... DYAMAM.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gnyyozm4n ... OHANAM.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mlwdtzuyz ... APRIYA.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nmhzmmm4d ... airavi.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yhiyjirgo ... alyani.mp3

S.NAGESWARAN.

balusatya
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Post by balusatya »

HUGE gesture indeed!You are doing a real service to the music world Mr.Nageshwaran!Sri..G.S.Mani has been very magnanimous.

vsn207
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Post by vsn207 »

Nageswaranji,

Many thanks. I heartily acknowledge the munificence of you and Shri G.S. Mani for this benevolent gesture.

Vivek
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rajeshnat
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Post by rajeshnat »

nageswaran Sir
I just listened so far the vol1 , now you are offering all the volumes , your and madurai gs mani service is just so great. One of the days I will atleast write about madurai gold standard mani's carnatic music in films.
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thanjavooran
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Post by thanjavooran »

Shri Nageswaran avl,
Many thanx. Please also convey my wishes to shri GS Mani. I have heard few of his interesting lec dems.
Thanjavooran

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Dear Nageswaran
please check your vol 3 u/l. Some of the files are too small. For example Shanmukapriya plays only for 37 secs and is abruptly cut out. The final Hameer kalyani also is too short. It will be nice if you can correct the files. Thank you immensely and of course with gratitude to Vid|| GS Mani.

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Post by pgaiyar »

Mr.Nageswaran sir:

Many thanks. Can you please upload the Track 1 in MediaFire which is in Rapidshare?. God bless you.

Regards

Guru

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

cmlover,

Long time no seeing your posts in any of my threads.

The conversion of the tapes to CDs of Sri G.S.Mani was done 15 years ago. Then I was interested in listening to the concert on daily basis [As Mr. Cho said.]. Perhaps the Shanmukapriya information might have been at the end of the tape [of one side and continued in the next side] for a small duration [VOL 2 OF 3 ] which was marked as one track. On seeing the balance of information continued in the next side of the tape, I have joined the whole information and this has been marked as another track and is available in the upload [in VOL 3 OF 3].

G.S Mani is mentioning HamirKalyani and Ahir Bairav in his speech. Only HamirKalyani is marked as one track. I remember Sri Mani had given an excellent Alapana of Ahir Bairav and what the singer should do to differentiate Ahir Bairav and Chakravakam. To crown it all the concert, a very good Mangalam was sung.

Now I have to search the tapes and check up and bring out the missing portions.

Thank you cmlover in pointing out the small irregularities.

I Have already requested you to visit my thread "V.S.Narasimhan, Violinist "[through forum mail ], I have not seen any comments of your post in that thread. In the same way I have sent forum mail to arasi and srkris also. There is some important message to the Rasikas in USA and Canada. Information about musical treasure is waiting for the Rasikas in western countries.

cmlover, arasi, and srkris do visit the thread "V.S.Narasimhan, Violinist"

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Post by pgaiyar »

To : Mr. S. Nageswaran sir:

Many thanks for your GS Mani sir's uploads. Can you please let me know from where I can download the Vol. 1?.

As I am abroad I have this question:

GS Mani sir talks about the late PU Chinnappa in the Kathanakuthukalam demonstration. He also sings a track viz,. Aandarul Jagadamba... in this ragam. Can you please, PLEASE let me know the film name and the song details?. God bless you sir!!!!!!!!!.

Regards

Guru

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

Dear pgaiyar,

Reply to your quiryis given below.
cmlover wrote:I think the movie is 'Jagadala pradhaapan'. I have seen it over 65 years ago and vaguely remember this
song.
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Download link for vol 1 is given below.


http://www.mediafire.com/file/oqfjomwjzdn/01- VOL 1 OF 3-FILM SONGS-GSM-C-008.mp3

S.NAGESWARAN.

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pgaiyar wrote:


GS Mani sir talks about the late PU Chinnappa in the Kathanakuthukalam demonstration. He also sings a track viz,. Aandarul Jagadamba... in this ragam. Can you please, PLEASE let me know the film name and the song details?. God bless you sir!!!!!!!!!.
Regards
Guru
I bought many cvd's & dvd's of the oldies where the great Papanasam Sivan wrote the music; Jagadalapradhaban starring P.U.Chinnappa & SIVA KAVI starring M.K.Thyagaraja Bhagavathar & S.Rajam(his last appearance in a movie; His wife asked him not to act in movies anymore!). The discussion(by NAGESWARAN & CMLOVER) & the mere mention of the names of G.S.Mani (&S.Rajam) inspired me to carefully watch both movies after 65 years! First time I saw them I was too young & NOW I realise HOW GREAT THEY ARE! Please allow me to share my current EXCITEMENT with you..... I am going to comment ONLY on the music part-written by Sivan- as I do not have the ability, excellence,& knowledge of Sri.Randor Guy except to say thet if allowance is made for advances in Technolgy in the past 70 years these movies are OUTSTANDING to say the least.....
My interest in Carnatic music I HAVE NOW CONCLUDED started when I saw the Tamil movies in which Sivan was responsible for the music. It has been said- I totally agree- that whether one sings for 30 seconds, 3 minutes or 30 minutes the ESSENCE & TOTALITY of the raga & music should be conveyed. Ariyakudi Ramanuja Iyengar was the PRIME EXAMPLE of this & all the musicians of the GOLDEN AGE(1945-1975) tried to emulate him.Sivan's music for films exemplifies this principle & a SAHITYA KARTHA of his stature inspired M.K.Thyagaraja Bhagavathar to write into his contract that SIVAN should compose the music for him to act in the movie! Madurai Mani Iyer(quoting S.Rajam) was the first person who brought out the greatness of Sivan's compositions by making them HIS own!
We should be ETERNALLY grateful & thank M.K.T. & M.M.I. for pointing out the greatness of Sivan to all of us....
THE BEST WAY TO LEARN HOW TO IDENTIFY RAGAS is to just listen to SIVAN'S music for the movies. No wonder the very talented & capable as well as intelligent musician & scholar G.S.Mani has used his music to explain the subtelities of ragas etc......VKV
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cmlover
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After Thyagaraja the next greatest/prolific composer is P Sivan. His service to CM and Tamil is unimaginable. Whence he is proudly called 'The Tamil Thyagaraja'!
MMI and DKJ are primarily responsible for bringing his genius to light in the CM world. IIRC GS Mani was closely associated with him on the CM movie songs!

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

Dear vkv, cmlover and Rasikas,

I have opened a new thread "Evolution of carnatic music in films" to day.

I have touched upon the contributions of Sivan for the carnatic music krithis in Tamil and his contributions to film music.

The efforts of MMI and DKJ in popularising Tamil krithis of Sivan and a LEC-DEM on Sivan by Sri DKJ.

Kindly visit the thread and post your valuable comments in the thread.

S.NAGESWARAN.

ambika.sundaram
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Post by ambika.sundaram »

I have talked to this great musician ....... a living encyclopedia of carnatic music ....

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rajeshnat
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Post by rajeshnat »

Keerthi
Wonderful right up ,I got to know significantly more about madurai gold standard mani especially his poojarajitha mudrA. What I always like in him is his perspectives of different genres of music will be taken and be anchored to one branch of music that he presents.

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Mani, now at the age of 77, is a consultant and advisor to many present-day music directors of Tamil cinema. So what does the veteran think about today's film music? “It has gone too mechanized but the orchestration has developed well,”
Quite a precise summary of today's film music. I did not know he still acts as a consultant and advisor to music directors. May be some of the film songs with interesting carnatic flavor are created with input from him. Next time someone encounters him, please ask which movies he had consulted for.

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

Dear Sri Rajesh,

Sri G.S,Mani's compositions have his mudhra as " RAJAPOOJITHA".

S.NAGESWARAN.
14.06.2011
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rajeshnat
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S.NAGESWARAN wrote:Dear Sri Rajesh,

Sri G.S,Mani's compositions have his mudhra as " RAJAPOOJITHA".

S.NAGESWARAN.
14.06.2011
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nageswaran sir,
Thanks it is rajapoojitha and not poojarajitha as I typed in the last post.

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Post by hnbhagavan »

Here is Enta Muddo by Sri Madurai GS Mani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ut6oCe-mE

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Post by vijay.siddharth »

Dear All,

Would you have any idea on where to get notations for the compositions of Madurai Sri GS Mani?

Cheers

Siddharth

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Madurai Gold Standard Mani explaining MSV the creator:
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The extraordinary madurai GOld Standard Mani is a spectacular musician . Without any inhibitions he just appreciates creators of music. MSV is a legend, see what kind of tunes and the process of how msv got these tunes as GSMani elucidates contextually with relevant snippets.

Particularly his explanation of talents like MSV and Kannadasan combo and also one or two extremely complex songs of Pattukkottai kalyanasundram where MSV just like that tunes .

All said ,Gold Standard Mani was right there as an assistant music director to MSV. At the age of 85/86 see how GS mani sings with passion and explains with passion. As a pureplay carnatic musician this genius GS Mani had his own limitation as a performing carnatic musician, but he as a stalwart of world music that too being in trenches with musicians like MSV KVM and many before that he genuninely fallings at the feet of music devathai is humility at its best.

https://youtu.be/U7esV4AWgu4?t=240 - start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQbo2X-pCik - This is also superb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sixJLiIDdz4 kannadasan and MSV

Check all other links especially his talk in Russian consulate in 2019.


I personally did not know the below song in kalyani sung by Seergazhi and MLV that I heard after GS Mani sir explained . Encapsulation of perhaps 25 core karnatic krithis ,all in a 3 and half minute kalyani- MLV rocking with her superb rendition. The song has a whole chapter of prose as poetry and what a great tunesmith was MSV , thanks to GS Mani sir who explained it .
Has Covid made me like even melakartha 65. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61cSzlrWla0

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Madurai Gold Standard Mani writeup in The Hindu dated July 16th,2021. Nice writeup hope more practioners bring his compositions. When GSM sir performed in the home of Late Nageswaran Sir home, i recollect that day he sang his own sudda saarang krithi as main (rajendra tanaye .....???). Great musician who can connect film , hindustani and ofcourse carnatic all with ease and he calls spade a spade. Out of all this tukkadas i think his naalai varum endru nambalaama in chandrakauns is his flagship krithi

https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/ ... 359183.ece

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Post by Manian »

Madurai Mani Iyer's Raga alaphana with all vowels in an International Phonetic vowels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gABejo5q0Q

Srasvathir reborn and disappeared. He wanted ordinary people to enjoy music and did not form any company to make money. He was Madura Mani accoriding to Ariyakudi.

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Post by CRama »

manian. This thread is about Madurai G.S.Mani and your post is about Madurai Mani Iyer. Pl post in the relevant thread.

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