T.M.Krishna

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bilahari
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Post by bilahari »

Chanced upon these well-made videos of TMK from a 2016 concert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuzjW5a--AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEbAgJK30Z8&t=117s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZEsJDJ9yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGrDSEDeCI0

Accompanied by Akkarai, Praveen Kumar, Chandrasekara Sharma

rajeshnat
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The Hindu review dated Jan19th,2018. TMK post dec season has sung in Kamaraj arangam , the review is from there. I guess there is no more meaty numbers than the bhariavi . But that is enough to write by The Hindu

http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/m ... 464182.ece
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sureshvv
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Post by sureshvv »

I think the reviewer meant B.Sivaraman instead of B.Sivakumar! No editor anywhere in sight.

vgovindan
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The following is a quote from an article written by one Pallavi Rebbapragada in the backdrop of cancelled AAI concert in Delhi. Is this factual or is it the opinion of the author of the article?

"Krishna has expressed time and again that Carnatic music is the preserve of the upper castes, and through Christian, Islamic and Dalit insertions into the verses, he has asserted the need for social reform. He has, for instance, been critical of MS Subbulakshmi’s rejection of her own Devadasi roots for the sake of gaining the acceptance and admiration of the masses in a music genre obsessed with deities, Brahmanic rituals and the self-styled sainthood of the vaggeyakaras or the legendary composers whose experiments with ragas and talas never dared to break the social constructs."

Pallavi Rebbapragada

https://www.firstpost.com/india/songs-o ... 69931.html

vgovindan
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Please also refer to article of Sonal Mansingh in the same context -

https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... 8674/lite/

SrinathK
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Anyway, for a change from all that is not music, just listen to this bArO krishnaiyya :

https://www.facebook.com/ksbhargav.ram. ... U0MzcwNzk/

Unbelievable stuff.

kvchellappa
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vgovindan wrote: 18 Nov 2018, 22:42 Please also refer to article of Sonal Mansingh in the same context -

https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... 8674/lite/
Well expressed and puts the matter in right perspective. It is not about liberalism and freedom of expression, but hatred that is harmful to society at large. It is divisive under the guise of being inclusive.

kvchellappa
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SrinathK wrote: 21 Nov 2018, 22:29 Anyway, for a change from all that is not music, just listen to this bArO krishnaiyya :

https://www.facebook.com/ksbhargav.ram. ... U0MzcwNzk/

Unbelievable stuff.
Showcases vidwat, reach and has high points, but sounds jerky, lacks unity and pleasantness and the longing mood of the song.

vgovindan
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Srinath,
Strip off the lyrics and then?

sureshvv
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SrinathK wrote: 21 Nov 2018, 22:29 Anyway, for a change from all that is not music, just listen to this bArO krishnaiyya :

https://www.facebook.com/ksbhargav.ram. ... U0MzcwNzk/

Unbelievable stuff.
Yes. Inspired performance! Have not seen him at this level of involvement recently.

SrinathK
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vgovindan wrote: 22 Nov 2018, 09:33 Srinath,
Strip off the lyrics and then?
To tell you the truth, I have zero knowledge of Kannada, so in theory the words are just syllables to me and I don't have a clue what I'm singing. But since you asked, I tried an experiment -- singing this tune to gibberish (by which I mean only alapana and swara syllables). I ended up with a raga alapana set to tala, something that sounds like a weird fusion of thillana and kriti.

But on the plus side, I figured out why the tanam and thillana was invented. :mrgreen:

But seriously, it is so much, so much better with the lyrics.

vgovindan
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Srinath,
If you - sorry if I am underestimating you - can come to the conclusion, a consummate singer like TMK should have no problem with understanding the worth of lyrics and mood the word association conveys to us.

Sometimes, I feel that TMK is suffering from a split personality; otherwise such a wonderful music and such a cynicism don't go together.

shankarank
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SrI VG,

I don't quite agree that these are lyrics and the meaning in them evokes moods. I at the same time don't buy into this art construct! That argument falls flat in this episode.

It is true that anything can be tuned in principle. But it has to be done in practice and carried forward, cherished and celebrated for it to make sense. Why does it take this level of conflict to surface before some people take notice?

They never cared for the music of this land ( HM, or CM) until now. That proves the dubiousness of this whole thing!

I also saw this one! : https://thewire.in/diplomacy/flashback- ... conference

So the Delhi government at least thought there is no iota of religion in this invitation I presume. It is art! I agree with the first statement, I disagree with the second!

ark07
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Post by ark07 »

TM Krishna singing the Guruguha Vibhakthi krithis along with his disciples at a private gathering in Bangalore last Sunday.

https://www.youtube.com/user/cnsubramaniam/videos

(Note: The videos are not labeled and not in order but a huge thanks to Mr. Subramaniam for uploading them)

narayan
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Post by narayan »

Thanks very much for this.

I see at least one Pandora's box waiting to be opened (e.g. the Anandabhairavi), and I look forward to some leisurely exploration of this.

shankarank
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSrc_tPnbqw

Now TMK as Vintage! I feel ( well let me say we always have felt!) some speed up, for example in sobhillu, but that is the natural expression of music where tightness of syllables is felt and comes out naturally. But without some locally ( in temporal sense) conforming accuracy of syllable intervals, he cannot maintain accuracy of tALam. tALam is perfect and Sri Arun Prakash sees it through and follows him perfectly.

He was not good at rendering caUka kAlam then. His paradEvata in dhanyAsi, was not effective even if it brought out dhanyAsi very well.

In contrast the current slow down looks very unnatural , done for some specific intent, even though it is good to listen to.

Pratyaksham Bala
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shreyas
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I've been waiting for a long while now to hear his Manasa Yetulortune (which he sang at IFAS on 28th December 2007), Manasuna Neranammithi and Nenu Jesina Pujaphalamu (SRLKM on 9th Feb 2005) and Nannu Brovumani (Sringeri Mutt in Mar 2004). I've tried asking him directly but there's this huge process about having to ask students and getting permission and all that....

vs_manjunath
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https://youtu.be/Aa_9UMNlxBk
TM Krishna - Sri Guruna Palitosmi - Ragam pAdi- Dikshitar

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