Brilliant artists not fully recognized by the public&sabhas

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sreecons
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venkatakailasam wrote:I am reminded of the following:
After a wedding reception performance by the late Shri. Ariyakudi Ramanuja Iyengar, the groom's father told the music legend:

'Your recital now is much superior to what you sang last year. '
Ariyakudi replied " Ivvidam pattu appidiye thhaan irukku.

Avvidam dhaan gnaanam konjam vandhirukku. Adhanal dhaan appidi theriyaradhu
Classic!!! 8)

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mankuthimma wrote:http://www.mediafire.com/?bxpbns3vo5x5c4h

Track 9 - A lovely track - Moves as a cool breeze from a rarely heard Diskhitar composition
Gifted voice , but I wonder how exactly did this version ie a retuning of Dikshitar's lyrics (as long as it's not ardhradesi it's not a Dikshitar composition!) make it all the way to Andhra that too to someone of a Parupalli school?

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Yes... And I got this bit of advice too , from DRS.
And keerthi asked the same thing when I told him over phone
Many similar minds thinking the same thoughts. Wow !!!! :clap:

[update]Let me explaiN. SrI gaNESAtparam was set by MD to ArdradESi , a janya of MMgauLa the 15th mELa; and that is how it SHOULD be rendered. What he sings here is in one of those innumerable new rAgas- vINAvAdini, a janya of harikAmbOdhi. A better way to get a handle on this rAga is to say it is hamsadhvani with a different niShAda (kaiSikI). A pleasing rAga no doubt under different circumstances, but...... :devil:[/update]

Only goes to show that , on the very few occasions I add some words to describe the links , I better shut up ... :P

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mankuthimma wrote:Only goes to show that , on the very few occasions I add some words to describe the links , I better shut up ... :P
Please do not!! People like DRS and Vidya are 'outliers' (I mean that in a very positive, and envious way), and they will continue to educate you along with the rest of us!!

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Obviously talented singer, excellent voice and manOdharma, but his south-south learning seems to have perilously skipped the state with tiruvArUr...

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mankuthimma,
That certainly was not the intention and thanks for these tracks in the first place.
I guess the 'MD Mafia' does get a little touchy about these things! I loved the 'a lovely raga under other circumstances' note :)

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[update]Goodness: I never knew about this "update"![/update]

Thank god it doesn't say "updation"

;)

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Vidya... Thanks . It was all in jest. Now I know how to smoke you all , out of your hiding places. ;)
Track 11 was Bellary Brothers

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Track 12
Vishnubatla Sisters
http://www.mediafire.com/?qgi5bbe2ifc4vp8
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Sreeni Rajarao
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Regarding Track # 11 : Bellary Brothers - Sheshagiriachar and Venkateshachar! Wow! Do we know the accompanists? M S Govinda Swamy on violin (my guess). mrdanga ??

Thanks for sharing these treasures! I will have to get in touch with Morching Gururaj and let him know of this recording (he is Vid. Venkateshachar's son).

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Now Bellary M.Raghavendra is picking up. He is good. I heard him a couple of times recently on Chandana channel
Harini.

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Yes, I understand Bellary Raghavendra and M S Vidya (Sheshgiriachar's children) and Gururaj (Venkateshachar's son) are carrying on the family tradition.

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M.S. Vidya has done creditable job with regard to Haridasa kritis.
Harini.

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There is a whole sector of brilliant musicians that are not fully recognised by public or sabhas. Indeed, they are even, on occasioned, maligned as a group --- and I'm betting that one or two responses to this post might not be positive...

The Violinists who sit modestly in their places by the main artist.

Putting aside the handful of elder greats, and their relatives, how many solo violinists? How many concerts are made available to those who want to play solo? Given the opportunity, I am sure there are more than a handful that would shine.

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Track 12 was Vishnubatla Sisters

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http://www.mediafire.com/?ijwt7ai4s4jutii
JAYALAKSHMI SANTHANAM
A lovely Track
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Track 1 http://www.mediafire.com/?1tm8k5958g4gy18
Upplapatti Ankiah - Akellaji
This Vachaspathi RTP is very good. Thanks Thimma.

BTW, what is the thala? I counted 20 beats arudhi to arudhi and matched it with: Trisra Ata, Misra Jampa and Chathusra Matya. Of the three, Chathusra Matya seems to fit the best. Can someone listen to this and offer your impressions?

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Inspite of So many clues...... ;(
# 141
JAYALAKSHMI SANTHANAM

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MT, I just download that and listened to Sari Evvare. I would not have guessed the singer.. but now that you mention, I know which clue you are talking about ;)

It is an excellent track indeed. Sari Evvare just flows from her effortlessly.

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Yes VK
That was a brilliant Track indeed....

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Nick H wrote:There is a whole sector of brilliant musicians that are not fully recognised by public or sabhas. Indeed, they are even, on occasioned, maligned as a group --- and I'm betting that one or two responses to this post might not be positive...

The Violinists who sit modestly in their places by the main artist.

Putting aside the handful of elder greats, and their relatives, how many solo violinists? How many concerts are made available to those who want to play solo? Given the opportunity, I am sure there are more than a handful that would shine.
True, but the CM system/tradition is as much to blame for that. With the prominence given to kritis to the point of exclusivity in the CM concert platform, instrumentalists have yet to find an independent place in the pantheon. In HM at least sitar players have been able to carve a separate identity for themselves with compositions meant for sitar. Nothing comparable has happened yet in CM for vINA players. But one is hopeful. These are still early days in CM innovation. :(

-Then Paanan

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True, but at least the veena and the flute manage to keep their heads just above the water, whereas the violinists ...well, ok, I guess they probably appear on stage far more often than the flautists and the veena players, and they do get a share of each concert they accompany, but a solo career, still is largely denied them.

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vidya wrote:
Gifted voice , but I wonder how exactly did this version ie a retuning of Dikshitar's lyrics (as long as it's not ardhradesi it's not a Dikshitar composition!) make it all the way to Andhra that too to someone of a Parupalli school?
Hi

There was a CMANA concert years ago (I think in Y2K) by Rudhrapatnam Bro's, a thematic one on rare compositions of the trinity. Some songs I remember were the Kalagada krithi Parvathi Ninnu nera and the ArdradEsi krithi. Perhaps, some of the forumites may have a recording of this concert.

Thx
Mummani Fan

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mummani_fan wrote: There was a CMANA concert years ago (I think in Y2K) by Rudhrapatnam Bro's, a thematic one on rare compositions of the trinity. Some songs I remember were the Kalagada krithi Parvathi Ninnu nera and the ArdradEsi krithi. Perhaps, some of the forumites may have a recording of this concert.

Thx
Mummani Fan
Rudraptnam Brothers track is here
http://www.mediafire.com/?bptx69lltn2lrv0

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Maku thimmanavarE!
Regarding #141...
First of, I'm still a download-impaired person.
I have a poor success record in this. I could not downlaod it, was busy all day, asked for K's help and how I relished your gift! Shame on me, I wasn't even aware she had sung a national program concert :( The announcement for s.pantuvarAli was in hindi. Wondered if it was Akellaji on the violin.
Hope Rajesh, Bharath and others who like her music get to listen to this. My chikkamma's sAvERi AlApane was reminiscent of her bro VVS.
She was a child prodigy singing at seven kaTTai. I did not hear her at all for many years (because I lived away from India), and then her singing here in the US, once in a house concert at our place too...
Of course, now I hear her every year without fail, this veteran vidUshi!
A typical case of how not living in Chennai is and always has been a disadvantage for musicians :(
Once again, what a gift from you, and it isn't even my birthday! Let me get a bit greedy and ask the near impossible--but for the stray bits which have been floating around, is there any early VVS concerts you can find for us? 2014 would be his centenary year!
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Kalagada krithi Parvathi Ninnu nera

By Rudr Bros and Panthula Rama
http://www.mediafire.com/?n3soi7a7827b6uh
http://www.mediafire.com/?pk5joc9pfmyd623

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Blimey! pat comes the response.. Thanks MT for the links.. The links that were posted earlier with the retuned Sri Ganeshad param, has a good vakulabharanam kriti too.. E Ramuni- I am wondering if any of the more popular artistes have rendered this? (Ala GNB, ARI, Alathur, SSI etc.,)?

Thx
MF..

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only chittoor subr pillay and somu

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Somu's vakulabaranam is TOP CLASS


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http://www.mediafire.com/?kgd817kxc6giwjo

I wind up this leg with a Pristine effort by Sandhyavandanam Srinivasa Rao, for AIR..
Folks can take time to digest all these and may be we can start again later. If there is interest.

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I just discovered this utterly delightful artist....on youtube...he is a member of this forum. Made my day today! so touched by his voice and singing.

Loved this one, in particular. Composer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=681NQuO99x8

Siva siva ennaratha -- panturali. In three parts. This one moved me a lot, having the Mon morning blues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfTHg-yC ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFJxI7qU ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nunNqCHhE


Another delight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUyK19BDnwA

Here's another from P. Sivan :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYMJdFc- ... =recentlik
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What is this, a downpour of pure nectar? Sandhayavandanam, Pasupati, Chittoor-Somu, et al... aha!! Thank you, thank you.

MT - would you by any chance have any of these artistes: Salem Chellam Iyengar, Titte Krishna Iyengar, Vairamangalam. And some early TRS please!

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N Ch Buttayacharulu
Very nice music. Havnt heard heard before. Should belong to the N Ch Krishnamacharyulu family, I think

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r-t
Here is a lovely rendition of sri krishnam - Thodi by Sri. Vairam
http://www.mediafire.com/?aj8ex8a7r2pzu7c

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mankuthimma wrote:http://www.mediafire.com/?kgd817kxc6giwjo

I wind up this leg with a Pristine effort by Sandhyavandanam Srinivasa Rao, for AIR..
Folks can take time to digest all these and may be we can start again later. If there is interest.
Thank you. Any number of clips by this great artiste are most welcome! His music seems to have been overlooked by the recording companies.
The artiste's son has also brought out an album of his father's music, which was announced in this forum some time ago:
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8789

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karthikbala wrote: His music seems to have been overlooked by the recording companies.
The artiste's son has also brought out an album of his father's music, which was announced in this forum some time ago:
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8789

It is not overlooked. Recordings companies are only interested in maximising revenues and this reverred artist will not fit THAT BILL.
Sad state of affairs :(

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I still plead with them with sample stuff .
The powers that be say - May not sell .
One of those powers appears here too occasionally . |(
Cant we as a group create some pressure on them .
TRS's Viruttam DVD had its origins in one of our threads long long ago , here . It may be gratifying to note that it is an album well received in the market .

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mankuthimma wrote:I still plead with them with sample stuff .
The powers that be say - May not sell .
One of those powers appears here too occasionally . |(
Cant we as a group create some pressure on them .
TRS's Viruttam DVD had its origins in one of our threads long long ago , here . It may be gratifying to note that it is an album well received in the market .
I am with you. Why not we record and release of couple of chaste music not through the stores but let us model it like the Avons or Tupperware :)

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http://www.mediafire.com/?adt8528ibxv97

a thani avarthanam by UKS-HP Ramachar for SSI

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http://www.mediafire.com/?498sr9c6aw1pq26

lovely veena concert by r visweswaran

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mankuthimma wrote:http://www.mediafire.com/?498sr9c6aw1pq26

lovely veena concert by r visweswaran
Veena Vidwan R Vishweshwaran of Mysore
Image

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fduddy wrote:r-t
Here is a lovely rendition of sri krishnam - Thodi by Sri. Vairam
http://www.mediafire.com/?aj8ex8a7r2pzu7c
Thank you so much!

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lovely picture Sreeni :)

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Veena Vidwan R Vishweshwaran has program on Amrithavarshini FM 100.1 in Bangalore about Lakshaya Lakshana.
Worth listening to.
I listen to it between 7.30 AM to 8.00 AM (some days of the week), but its also broadcast in the night.

Raman

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ranjanimalavi wrote:Veena Vidwan R Vishweshwaran has program on Amrithavarshini FM 100.1 in Bangalore about Lakshaya Lakshana.
Worth listening to.
I listen to it between 7.30 AM to 8.00 AM (some days of the week), but its also broadcast in the night.

Raman
There is a very nice CD - released by R. Viswesvaran called - Ragas of Duel Identity - Excellent recording and superb renditions of Maye Twam Yahi, Paritapamu (Mahohari) Neemudumomu (Kamalamanohari) ....

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That was TT SEETHA

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