Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
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Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
On the occassion of Maha Siva Rathri, a program dedicated to the janana, smarana, darsana and marana mukthi kshEtrams
with RKSK, KAP & Anirudh Athreya.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlC55tUF2k4
NidhAnamAna (am not able to think right equivalent word, sedate perhaps or rather lack-of-rush?), azhuttamAma (gravitas/weight) sangItam. In a pretty powerful voice.
with RKSK, KAP & Anirudh Athreya.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlC55tUF2k4
NidhAnamAna (am not able to think right equivalent word, sedate perhaps or rather lack-of-rush?), azhuttamAma (gravitas/weight) sangItam. In a pretty powerful voice.
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
I see some energy with KAP - yeah - good-good and volume seems to have been adjusted upward so His Majesty is audible from right side! ( hopefully not just in the youtube channel . Sollus also flowing with azhuttam!
tyAgarAjaya namastE - rendered with poise. Few questions came up. There is a KVN rendition where yOgISvara mAnasa saMyukta vadana vArijAya - flows back into vAgISadyakhila so continuously - as vArijAya ends on da - and vAgISAdyakhila begins on ni - I missed that one here!
The neraval on yOgiSvara was well done - but an occasional Chitoor style round back to vAgISa will bring exhilaration out of being on the same line! Some people will say theatrics - but AkaRShana of rasikas is important as well.
Also in akatAdi trirEkhAtma - she stresses aka(th)Adi - I guess the meaning there is a, ka, ta(tha) - the 3 letters in the trirekhA cakra - Dikshitar providing more evidence of divinity of letters.
akathAdi is taken as ga-ma-pA-da as in notation - but KVN does ma-pa-dA-pa - with dhiRga on thA matching dA dhiRga in bEgaDa with more expression. As a svarAkshara da on di is sUcita - but not sure if da on tha ( or ta) will make it a Suddha svarAkshara!.
I also feel there is some drag in satcitsukha vyAptayE - with the yati - what if it is satcitsUkha vyAptayE - if siksha in pANiNi can become sIkshA with dhIrga "I" in vEdic usage - ( ArSha prayOgam) - why not sukha to sUkha here! Something for Sanskrit scholars to opine! Is sUkha any corruption in meaning?
tyAgarAjaya namastE - rendered with poise. Few questions came up. There is a KVN rendition where yOgISvara mAnasa saMyukta vadana vArijAya - flows back into vAgISadyakhila so continuously - as vArijAya ends on da - and vAgISAdyakhila begins on ni - I missed that one here!
The neraval on yOgiSvara was well done - but an occasional Chitoor style round back to vAgISa will bring exhilaration out of being on the same line! Some people will say theatrics - but AkaRShana of rasikas is important as well.
Also in akatAdi trirEkhAtma - she stresses aka(th)Adi - I guess the meaning there is a, ka, ta(tha) - the 3 letters in the trirekhA cakra - Dikshitar providing more evidence of divinity of letters.
akathAdi is taken as ga-ma-pA-da as in notation - but KVN does ma-pa-dA-pa - with dhiRga on thA matching dA dhiRga in bEgaDa with more expression. As a svarAkshara da on di is sUcita - but not sure if da on tha ( or ta) will make it a Suddha svarAkshara!.
I also feel there is some drag in satcitsukha vyAptayE - with the yati - what if it is satcitsUkha vyAptayE - if siksha in pANiNi can become sIkshA with dhIrga "I" in vEdic usage - ( ArSha prayOgam) - why not sukha to sUkha here! Something for Sanskrit scholars to opine! Is sUkha any corruption in meaning?
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
It was a lovely concert.
Sri KAP accompanies according to with whom he is playing. This is not new. As I am very used to seeing him playing with very soft voices, I was quite surprised to see him playing louder. This is not the first time I've seen it: I'm sure he always could and would.
Sri KAP accompanies according to with whom he is playing. This is not new. As I am very used to seeing him playing with very soft voices, I was quite surprised to see him playing louder. This is not the first time I've seen it: I'm sure he always could and would.
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
My observations on Arun date back to Sanjay's early days and later TMK's etc. I have watched Arun play recently with various artistes including the last years concluded tour of Ramakrishna Murthy (RKM). RKM is certainly not a soft voice or soft music, but not on the very hard end as well. I was pained to see RKM , a KVN style artiste being made into another TMK 2.0 - I had to leave the concert after Amba nIlayadakshi!
In this instance - by the way he does ta-ta-ku-dhin-ta-tom - no - even - dhin-ta-ka-tom - I can sense what is different!
And his body language tells you he is acting different!
Nobody denies he could or he would - but he didn't many times!
In this instance - by the way he does ta-ta-ku-dhin-ta-tom - no - even - dhin-ta-ka-tom - I can sense what is different!
And his body language tells you he is acting different!
Nobody denies he could or he would - but he didn't many times!
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
Well, OK... I didn't see many times!
The majority of my experience being hearing him accompany Smt Vedavalli and school, I had assumed that he always played slow, quiet and very background. I was surprised when I first heard otherwise! I think it might have been for TMK.
My perspective, of course, is that of someone who likes what we see as his (perhaps uniquely his) style of playing.
The majority of my experience being hearing him accompany Smt Vedavalli and school, I had assumed that he always played slow, quiet and very background. I was surprised when I first heard otherwise! I think it might have been for TMK.
My perspective, of course, is that of someone who likes what we see as his (perhaps uniquely his) style of playing.
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
Please, kudumbathula (sishya) kuzhappam uNdu paNNAdhInga, Rithvik or Vignesh might get peeved.shankarank wrote: ↑26 Feb 2017, 09:26 I was pained to see RKM , a KVN style artiste being made into another TMK 2.0 - I had to leave the concert after Amba nIlayadakshi!
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
Rithwik and Vignesh are @ TMK 1.0 - no issues !
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
I see Vignesh more of aspiring to be a TMK 'clone' - with time i hope and bless that he will find his own style.
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Re: Bharathi Ramasubban, Naada Inbam, 24/Feb/2017
After hearing the concert almost fully upto the SankarAbaraNam piece, the band drum play from KAP still exists in couple of numbers - AruNAcala nAtham for e.g. Is it that impossible to ruminate on a pattern that sounds traditional that descends a bit , flows a bit, that fits the rhythmic structure of the kriti - within his own paradigm?!
The feud is with his thinking - not his artistry!
tyAgarAjaya namstE and first part of Adiya pAda were accompanied with verve - for the first time I am hearing a seasoned Arun - in fact much different from his younger days - experience being expressed as well!
The feud is with his thinking - not his artistry!
tyAgarAjaya namstE and first part of Adiya pAda were accompanied with verve - for the first time I am hearing a seasoned Arun - in fact much different from his younger days - experience being expressed as well!
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