Foregotten songs

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CRama
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Post by CRama »

The season has just concluded. A large number of sabhas presented long strings of music concerts and the top ranking musicians each gave concerts around 20 during the season. This has provided a rich variety of songs for the listeners enjoyment- many new songs and RTPs in many unheard ragas, hindustani ragas, multi ragas RTPs as well. It is a welcome trend that RTPs have been included by many musicians.

But I find that some of the songs which were quite popular about 25 years back, have been foregotten by the present day musicans to pave way for the new songs. Many songs are being repeated by many musicians. For instance Enduku peddala. Can we attempt to list out such songs which have gone into oblivion? We will list the songs within the following broad frame work.

1. To start with we will take up only songs in the six major ragas -Todi, Kalyani, Bhairavi, Sankarabharnam, Karaharapriya and Kambodi

2. We will take up the compositions of Trinity, Purandaradasa, Swati Tirunal and Papanasam Sivan only

3. We will include only songs which are/were in circulation in the cutchdery circuit. We will not include songs which lie only in books.

I request suggestions from members for this exercise. This can provide an eye opener for many of the musicians who may include at least some of the songs next year.I am sure that our members who have a long listening experience will bring out a big list (wish list?)

Purist
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Post by Purist »

Karaharapriya : Prakkala neela , Samana Evaru , Chittararatna (Mitre Bhagayame)
Bhairavi : yaro ivar yaro , Chetulara
Shankarabarna : emi neramo , sarojadala netri ,
Thodi : Enduku Dayaradu, Emi Jesite
Kamboji : Kana Kankodi, Ma Janaki , Thiruvadi Sharanam
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CRama
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Sankarabharanam-Nannu brov rada, Ethudanila, Swararagasudha, Manasuswadheenamai
Thodi- Neevanti deivamu, Munnuravana, Thanikaivalar,
Karaharapriya- Nadachi nadachi, Rama neeyada,
Kambodi- Aadum deivam nee arulvai

vijay
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Post by vijay »

I guess it depends on one's specific concert attendance. I have heard almost every one of the songs above in concerts over the last 5 years, some of them many times over....the exeptions would be Nannu Brovarada, Adum Deivam and Chetulara which, alas, one hears only at the Aradhana these days...

Concert repertoire is one area in which things are definitely looking up with artistes very conscious about avoiding repetition. It is another matter how songs are learnt (tapes/nptations) and whether they are internalized to the same extent as the old masters...

rajeshnat
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Post by rajeshnat »

If there is one song that has banished(I have not heard myself nor seen in the review) it is koteeshwara iyer's todi krithi kalitheera, popularized by ARI and KVN , but no takers in the last few years.

S.NAGESWARAN
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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

Dear Rasikas,

Madurai G.S.Mani has sung MunnuRavana in Thodi last year at Asthika Samajam at Alwarpet.

S.NAGESWARAN.
05.01.2010

VK RAMAN
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Visweswara by Swati Thirunal
Radha samedha
SarasijanabhasOdhari

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

kalyANi - taTTai mozhiyAL oru peN (a phenomenally musical padam)

MV
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Post by MV »

Ninne Nammi nanu - Thodi - Syama Shastri

veeyens
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Post by veeyens »

What about "Sri Raguvara Sugunalaya" in Bairavi, by Sri Tyagaraja?

venkat1926
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Post by venkat1926 »

Sometime back I heard this beautiful lyric perhaps by one of the Sirkazhi moovars
unakkum enakkum isaintha porruththam enna poruththamO
I think it is in ragam Bhairavi . I am still awaiting somebody to sing this song.

Sivaramakrishnan
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Post by Sivaramakrishnan »

Congrats CRama for opening this useful topic.

KRITIS which come to my mind:

1. ramana ra ra - sankarabharanam - tyagaraja
2. upachaaramulanu - bhairavi -tyaga (may be not that forgotten- but i haven't heard for long)
3. sri venkatesam varam - todi- poochi s iyengar (a magnificent piece in rupaka tala)
4. many of dikshitar's 'aavarana' songs
5. sarasijanabha murarey-todi-swati
6. kripaya paalaya- charukesi - swati - perhaps 'not very much forgotten'
7. kamalaambana - kaanada - composer?

many more in store!

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Post by MaheshS »

venkat1926 wrote:Sometime back I heard this beautiful lyric perhaps by one of the Sirkazhi moovars
unakkum enakkum isaintha porruththam enna poruththamO
I think it is in ragam Bhairavi . I am still awaiting somebody to sing this song.
I've heard Maharajapuram Santhanam sing this in Atana. I think it's by Ramalinga Adigalar. He has rendered this song in a recording, April 1990[?] New Year Day's. The recording is available in sangeethamshare.org

narayara000
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sankalpam eTTidO - Kharaharapriya - Patnam - sung by MSS, MDR, Voleti

Emani mATADitivO - Thodi - Thyagaraja - sung by SSI, TNS, TVG, Vedavalli

vijay.siddharth
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Jagadeeswari in Mohanam (Thiruvarur Ramaswami Pillai)

Koniyadina Napai in Kambhoji (Veena Kuppayyar) <sidenote: what a song! what a potential for neraval in 'Ninnu Minchina Dhaivamu'! What a chittaswaram!>

Tanayuni Brova in Bhairavi

MaheshS
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vijay.siddharth wrote: 31 Jul 2017, 19:01 Tanayuni Brova in Bhairavi
Sumitra Nitin sang this recently, very nice [http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic ... 13&t=29642]

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

kamalAmbanA is by Garbhapurivasa.

varsha
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Post by varsha »

who may include at least some of the songs
https://archive.org/details/ManasuVishh ... nathaSarma
manasu vishhaya - nATakuranji - tyAgarAja

masundaram
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I list some songs which were my favourite, but are not much heard these days.
!.Dayapayonidhe-Jaganmohini-Adi-Meesu Krishna Iyer.(This has a very nice chittaswaram)
2. Paramathmanee-Bhuvanagandhari-Adi-Meesu Krishna Iye3
3.Parakuneelaenamma-Kiranavali-Adi.Composer? (Mali used to play this)
4 Paramukhamelara-Surati-Adi-Thyagaraja(Mali and GNB have sung this)
5.Needhumurthi-Natakurunji-Adi-Composer?(This has a beautiful chittaswaram)
There are a few more. When I remember them, I shall getnback.

melam72
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masundaram wrote: 08 Aug 2017, 19:18 I list some songs which were my favourite, but are not much heard these days.
!.Dayapayonidhe-Jaganmohini-Adi-Meesu Krishna Iyer.(This has a very nice chittaswaram)
This was tuned by Alathur Venkatesa Iyer, IIRC.
masundaram wrote: 08 Aug 2017, 19:18 5.Needhumurthi-Natakurunji-Adi-Composer?(This has a beautiful chittaswaram)
Composed by Pallavi Gopala Iyer of Vanajakshi Ninne Kori (Kalyani Ata Tala Varnam) fame.

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Thodi - Pankajaksha, Brindavana Lola
Kharaharapriya - Kori sevimparare
Sankarabharanam - Thookiya thiruvadi, Manasu swadheenamai (not sure)
Kamboji - Koniyadina

Other ragas:

Eramuni - Vakulabharanam
Dandamu - Balahamsa
Kripa juchutaku - Chayatarangini
Varalandu - Gurjari (maybe Sowmya and Unni sing it regularly?)
Ithi Samayamura - caayanaaTTai

masundaram
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sahajaguna rama-shankarabharanam-adi-H.Muthiah Bhagavathar.(I heard itplayed by Mali superbly in Madras Museum Theatre in 1950. Never heard it since)
Sakalakalavaniye-kedaram-adi-Suddananda Bharathi.
Sri maha ganapathe-natai-adi Composer? (Flute K.S.Gopalakrishnan used to play it regularly) (iT HAS A LOVELY CHITTASWARAM)

melam72
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masundaram wrote: 11 Aug 2017, 09:33 Sri maha ganapathe-natai-adi Composer? (Flute K.S.Gopalakrishnan used to play it regularly) (iT HAS A LOVELY CHITTASWARAM)
Mayuram Vishwanatham Shastri

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