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Post #1 by mahavishnu » 29 Jan 2010, 04:33

Well, the December season is behind us and it is still a few more weeks before Cleveland. The numbers of songlists and kutcheri reports/reviews have thinned down considerably, both in North America and South India.

On this very section of the forum, there are threads on what one's favourite songs are (starting with a certain letter) and that sequence has reached close to the middle of the alphabet. The idea behind this thread is similar in spirit, but closer to book cricket and fantasy football. I invite people to post their ideal song lists from an ideal kutcheri. Post several lists, if you can't exhaust all your favourites.

Of course there are many caveats to this. A good songlist depends on who is singing, where the concert is being held/heard, time constraints etc. But let us indulge ourselves in this exercise making as many assumptions as we like. It is fantasy after all. Feel free to post anything as long as the message is positive ;)

So, to kick things off. Here is my ultimate songlist...... Take one.

A fantasy 4 hour vocal concert.

1) sAmi dayajUda - Kedaragowla varnam- TT
2) siddhi vinAyakam - Chamaram - MD (S)
3) smaranE Sukhamu - janaranjani - T (ANS)
4) Himachala tanaya - Anandabhairavi - SS
5) Enduku nIrdaya - Harikambhoji - T(submain: ANS)
6) NenaruncharA- simhavahini- T
7) GajavadanA - Todi - KEB (main: ANST)
8) ennEramum undam sannidhi - Devagandhari - GKB
9) RTP - mukhAri (ragamalika swarams in Kharaharapriya, poorvikalyani, Kapi)
10) viruttam - Nattai, Gowlai, Varali, Arabhi, Sri (preferably in Tamil; Seethalapathy Balu's Palum teli tenum sequence by Avvayyar would be ideal)
11) ettanai sonnAlum - Saveri - SRA
12) Haridasulu vedalE - Yaman Kalyani - T
13) chelinEnEtlu - Paras - DS
14) Thillana - Dwijavanti - LGJ
15) Bhujaga sayino - Yadukula Kamboji; ST
short sketch madyamAvati + mangalam kosalendraya.
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Post #2 by rajeshnat » 29 Jan 2010, 11:54

Mahavishnu
Lovely list especially having all that I ask for in terms of structure. Hope you drive this list as a real mahA vishnu to all the musicians and more importantly the sabhas, as such if musicians dont care about audience exodus at the end of say your gajavadanA tani, then we will make it. I will take my time to put the song list for my 4 hour concert.
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Post #3 by ganesh_mourthy » 29 Jan 2010, 12:10

my ideal concert module would be 1 varnam, 1 rtp, another longer song, 1 virutham and song ,one thukkada, thillana and end. all should have raaga elaboration.

15 songs makes me feel like i am sitting for airtel super singer.
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Post #4 by kharaharapriyajanyam » 29 Jan 2010, 15:38

Here is my ideal song list.

It should be a 3 hour concert. I don't think I can sit for 4 hours unless the artiste is extremely brilliant.

1) chala mEla - shankarabharanam - ata - swAthi thirunAl(sketch)
2) vara vallabha - hamsadhwani - Adi - GNB (S)
3) shankari shamkuru - sAvEri - rUpakam - thisra Adi - Shyama Shastri(RNS)
4) chinnanAdEna - kalAnidhi - Adi - Thyagaraja Swami(fast S)
5) kamalAmbAm bhajarE - kalyAni - Adi - Muthuswamy Dikshithar (RNS) {Sub-main}
6) evarUra ninnuvinA - mOhanam - chApu - Thyagaraja Swami
7) RTP - simhEndramadhyamam (Ragamalika swaras in mAnavathi,shubhapanthuvarAli,sUryakantham,varAli and srI)
8) Viruttam in brindAvani,sindhubhairavi,hamIr kalyAni and bAgeshri followed by konjum silamboliyum - bAgEshrI - Ambujam Krishna{tuned by Smt.R.Vedavalli} (Viruttam should describe leelas of Lord Krishna. Ideal language - tamil or sanskrit)
9) mAyalAdi bOdanache - surati - Adi
10) thillana - thanom nOm thanana thillAnA - grahabEdha thillana - Adi - Balamuralikrishna
11) nagumOmu kalavAni - madhyamavathi - Adi - Thyagarajar
12) shrInivAsaya vEda - navarOj - tisra Adi
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Post #5 by mahavishnu » 29 Jan 2010, 22:54

nice list, kharaharapriyajanyam.
I can see why chinnanAdEna is on your list :-)
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Post #6 by ksrimech » 30 Jan 2010, 00:05

Here is mine, a 4 hour one.

1. viribONi (varNam) - bhairavi - aTa - pAchimIriyam Adi appayyar (S)
2. gOpAlaka pAhimAm - rEvagupti - miSra cApu - maharAjA svAti tirunAL (S)
3. nI bhakti bhAgya sudhA - jayamanOhari - Adi - tyAgarAjasvAmi (RS)
4. rangA SrI rAngA - asAvEri - Adi - ambhujam kRSNa (S)
5. pArengum pArtAlum - kalyANI - Adi - ghanam kSRSNayyar (RNS)
6. rAmA ika nannu - sahAnA - Adi - paTnam subrahmaNyayyar (RS)
7. kaLLanAri - nArirItigouLa - kanDa chApu - DRS (RNS)
8. eppaDi manam tuNindadO - huseini - adi - aruNAchalakavirAyar (R)
9. lAvaNya SrungArAya - SrI - Adi - annamAchAryA (RNST)
10. ivanArO (kuravanji) - kAmbhOji - Adi - kOTISvarayyar
11. rAgam tAnam pAllavi - syAmalAngi + rAgamAlika
12. vandE kariSaila nivAsam - jujAvanti - Adi - mArgadarSi SeSayyangAr
13. rAma vibhakti stOtram - rAgamAlika + rAma mantrava japiSO - jOunpuri - Adi - purandaradAsar
14. nAdha muraLi - hamirkalyAnI - Adi - UttukkADu vEnkaTasubbayyar
15. udum attInkuzharkE (tiruvAymozhi) + inRu varuvAnO - kalyANa vasantham - ADi - Smt Raji Krishnan (Arasi)
16. naDanda kAlgaL (tirucchandaviruttam) - Sindhu Bhairavi - Adi (Kanda Nadai) - tirumazhisaipirAn
17. tillAnA - bilahari - Adi - ariyakkuDi rAmAnuja ayyangAr
18a. rAmachandrAya (mangaLam) - navarOj - Adi - bhadrAchalarAmadAsar
18b. mangaLam kOSalEndrAya - surutti/madhyamAvathy - maNavALamAmunI
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Post #7 by mahavishnu » 30 Jan 2010, 04:25

very scholarly list, ksrimech. Never heard an RTP in Syamalangi.
Plus a composition by Arasi....
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Post #8 by ksrimech » 30 Jan 2010, 05:08

Thank you Mahavishnu. Neither have I heard an RTP in SyAmaLAngi yet. Thats why its on my fantasy list. BTW, there is a recording on (late) S Rajam singing syAmaLangi kRti of kOTISvarayyar kandaga karpaga taruvE on youtube. May be TSK would have sung it brilliantly.
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Post #9 by mahavishnu » 30 Jan 2010, 06:04

Ksrimech: that is how scholarly your list is....... a Koteeswara Iyer piece as a filler right after the Tani.
The loss of S Rajam today is doubly tragic in that it reminds us how few people have a repertoire to actually pull off a concert list like that.
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Post #10 by cmlover » 30 Jan 2010, 07:31

Krishna
You just made my day by including DRS and Arasi in your list!
(I would have loved DRS's Ramayana Ragamalika too!)
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Post #11 by rajaglan » 30 Jan 2010, 14:26

Here is mine for 4 hours.

1. Tiruvadi chaarnam - kamboji - N
2. Mansunilpa - Abhogi - S
3. Meenakshi Memudam - Purvikalyani - ANS- submain
4. Brovasamayamide - Gowromanohari
5. Saadu Tada - Vagulabarnam - A
6. Varamulosakhi - Kiravani - ANS-submain
7. Padavini - Saalaka bairavi
8. Kaddanu variki - Todi - ANST-Main
9. RTP Begada + ragamalika
10. Manamu Leda - Hamirkalyani
11. Sakala loga dhara - Valagi
12. Saramyna - behag
13. Mamava patabirama - Manirangu


And I will be happy if Sanjay, TMK, Vijay Siva, Hyd Brothers and in
ladies Pantula Rama can try this list.
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Post #12 by aDANA » 09 Feb 2010, 00:33

rajaglan wrote:Here is mine for 4 hours.

1. Tiruvadi chaarnam - kamboji - N
2. Mansunilpa - Abhogi - S
3. Meenakshi Memudam - Purvikalyani - ANS- submain
4. Brovasamayamide - Gowromanohari
5. Saadu Tada - Vagulabarnam - A
6. Varamulosakhi - Kiravani - ANS-submain
7. Padavini - Saalaka bairavi
8. Kaddanu variki - Todi - ANST-Main
9. RTP Begada + ragamalika
10. Manamu Leda - Hamirkalyani
11. Sakala loga dhara - Valagi
12. Saramyna - behag
13. Mamava patabirama - Manirangu


It has become a FASHION to include closer ragas in same list... I remember once KVN mama sang entharaanee and immediately sang evari maata MAIN....
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Post #13 by mahesh_narayan » 09 Feb 2010, 10:47

For a 4 hour concert, how about including some heavyweights like srI kamalAmbAyAh param (Bhairavi), pAhi jananI santatam (natta kuranji), abhayAmbA (kalyani), rAve himagirikumAri (todi), srI tyAgarAja mahadhwajArOha (srI), or raksha bettarE (bhairavi) ???

I think a 4 hour concert can have more than 1 Dikshitar kriti. As it is, the Dikshitar quota is decreasing in concerts.

Also, are there any provisions for short tani + long tani (as in the days of ARI - PMI)? Wish I could hear a 4 hour concert featuring Raghu Sir !!!
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Post #14 by VISHNURAMPRASAD » 09 Feb 2010, 18:04

Very tempting topic :) I cannot end with just one list. But here is my list that came to my mind instantly :-

Inthachala - Begada Varnam (7 minutes with single avarthana swaras in Pagavari)
Ramabhakthi Samrajyam - with swaras (8 minutes)
A short alapana of Asaaveri followed by Maapaala velasika (10 minutes)
Harikambhoji Ragam - Dinamani Vamsa with Swaras (all within 25 minutes)
Ramachandram Bhavayami - Vasantha - Deekshithar krithi ( total 12 minutes with alapana and swaras in Saakethanagare nivasantham)
Naatimaata marachithivo - devakriya - thyagaraja krithi (5 minutes)
A short kalyani alapana followed by Bhajana Seyave - Kalyani - Thyagaraja Krithi (with swaras in pallavi line)
Saveri Alapana - Shankari Sankuru - Neraval swaram at Shyama krishna sodhari (45 minutes) with a thani avarthanam
Maarubalka - Sriranjani (starting from Jaarachora (anupallavi)and then leading to Maarubalka) - 6 minutes
A short alapana of chalanata followed by Edhayya gathi (koteeswara Iyer) - 8 minutes
Sevikka vendum ayya - Aandolika with quick swaras - 7 minutes
Ragam Thanam Pallavi - Mohanam with Raagamalika Thanam (Aanandha bhairavi, Thodi, Kanada, Mohanam) followed by pallavi in Thisra Thiruputa, Pallavi line : Saarasa dhalanetraa hare krishnaa with anulomam prathi lomam once in slow and once in high speed followed by swaras both in Thisra Thiruputa and Misra chapu. Raaga malika : bowli, sahana, hamsadwani, sindhubhairavi, thani avarthanam - Total time 60 minutes
Vaidehi Sahitham - Slokam in Senchurutti followed by Thillana (Mysore Maharaja) - 12 minutes
Shivaganga nagaranivasini - Punnagavarali (Papanasam Sivan) - 6 minutes
Madhiyaal vithaganaagi - Surutti - Thirupugazh - 4 minutes
Sendhanai Kandhanai - Virutham in Bheemplas followed by Kandhan Karunai puriyum Vadivel - 6 minutes
Mangalam - 3 minutes

Total : 225 minutes ( 3 hours and 45 minutes)
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Post #15 by rajeshnat » 09 Feb 2010, 19:19

vishnuramprasad
The original poster asked only ultimate song list , you are putting songlist in minutes and totalling it too...Out of all people I should not comment on minutes . :). I have prepared a partial list centering on mmi and ssi, once when the migration happens will post it there.Looks like you have centered a lot on those two :).
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Post #16 by balusatya » 09 Feb 2010, 22:21

10) thillana - thanom nOm thanana thillAnA - grahabEdha thillana - Adi - Balamuralikrishna

Can you initiate on this? karaharapriyajanyam!
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Post #17 by rshankar » 09 Feb 2010, 23:26

Krishna,

In your list, I think #10 (the kuravanji song, most probably from azhagar kuravanji) is not by Sri KI, but by his grandfather and mentor, Kavi Kunjara Bharati.
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Post #18 by annamalai » 09 Feb 2010, 23:56

vishnuramprasad,

Would it be nice to have one of the "BIG five" ragas as the main - esp. after Saveri, Sreeranjani etc.

RTP - Sankarabaranam - Samana Sabapathe Sadasiva Sakalaloka ....
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Re: Ultimate Song list

Post #19 by ksrimech » 19 Feb 2010, 03:33

rshankar - Thanks for pointing out. I cannot edit the list since the forum is not giving that option like before.
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Re: Ultimate Song list

Post #20 by chalanata » 01 Mar 2010, 20:40

my song list:
1. andhima kaalathil- varnam kedara gowla
2. sabha secretary bajeham- gowla
3. gnaname vendaame- poorvikalyani
4. gurumukthiyale vaychuthu kutcheri- kamboji
5. ever kettar sruthiyai- navarasa kanada
6. kaadu kizhiyum mruthanga thalamu- jingla
7. shikrameva clevland prapthiya rasthu- virutham in ahiri, mukhari, saveri and sivapanthuvaraali and suddha dhanyasi
8. publicity baji maname- thillana in suddha dhanyasi
9. puriyatha vittala- abang
10. saranam saranam you tube- mangalam
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Re: Ultimate Song list

Post #21 by rshankar » 01 Mar 2010, 20:53

Chalanata - that was priceless - should be a cross-over post with the hilarity thread! ROFLOL!!! I have tears streaming from my eyes, and a catch in my sides! :lol: :clap:

It might become 'ultimately innovative' if you moved #1 to say, #5....:P
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Re: Ultimate Song list

Post #22 by arasi » 01 Mar 2010, 21:15

chalanata,
jamAittu viTTIr! (bravo!) :clap:
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Re: Ultimate Song list

Post #23 by bilahari » 01 Mar 2010, 21:55

Chalanata, hilarious!!
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Re: Ultimate Song list

Post #24 by vasanthakokilam » 01 Mar 2010, 22:49

chalanata: Much needed comedic relief.. I had a good laugh at 5 and 6. I always thought you had this in you without knowing why, now I know!!
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Re: Ultimate Song list

Post #25 by VK RAMAN » 02 Mar 2010, 00:10

chalanata : very creative thinking. Keep it going
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