Appeal to Rasikas to support the publication of CM archives

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 02 Feb 2013, 06:57

Dear friends

Our member Pasupathy has indicated that magazines like Ananda Vikatan/Kalki/,, have archives of old journal articles of concerts and musical tidbits of the Golden Era of CM (1930's to 1960's). They can be pursuaded to publish them as a monograph if there is a concerted appeal from us Rasikas. The collections can be commented by surviving Rasikas/artistes of that era and will be a valuable Historical monograph of CM which should not get lost! Please express your support and ideas in this thread which we can forward to those magazines collectively. If you already have contact persons at Chennai at these magazines do please enlist their support on this vital project.

Thanks

Rsachi · Post by **Rsachi** » 02 Feb 2013, 10:25

Any such compendium of great, historical articles in various languages with original content as well as a good English translation would be wonderful. I commit my support for such a cause.
Sachi R

priyaram78 · Post by **priyaram78** » 02 Feb 2013, 17:30

The future consists of actions performed in the present after learning lessons from our past. These articles would help all lovers of carnatic music, who can put it to good use, for many generations. So i hope this cause gets full support.

sridhar_ranga · Post by **sridhar_ranga** » 03 Feb 2013, 13:14

+1. I volunteer to translate select articles to the best of my ability, although it is a tough ask conveying the humour of Devan, Kalki, et al through translations.

In fact I will be very happy if all the back issues of Kalki and Ananda Vikatan, especially from the 30's thru 70's, are digitized in their entirety - what a treasure it will be! If that happens, I won't even mind advancing my retirement by a decade or two, so I can spend all my time reading them

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Feb 2013, 13:29

Sridhar,
Well said! Thanks for volunteering.
More power to this kind of an endeavor.

As Sachi says, this is true of all the languages where music has been written about.
Count me as another volunteer (though not as a major one).

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 03 Feb 2013, 15:10

My full support to the cause.It will not be a mere reedition of these archives. Rasikas .org is best equipped to reassess the evolution of carnatic musical traditions in a fast disappearing cultural context which nurtured great talents and present it to posterity.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 03 Feb 2013, 21:11

I am all for it - the only issue is that they are all in tamizh, which will limit th number of people who can benefit from them...

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 03 Feb 2013, 23:29

That is the spirit sridhar_ranga, thanks
Vast majority of our membership are not tamils. Even many of the Tamils do not know to read Tamil scripts. That is the reason for our isolating that section. But the material is of great interst to all CM enthusiasts. It will be a pity to lose them. As arasi/Rsachi suggest there should be an attempt to consolidate all historical materials on CM and get them translated. That however is a mammoth project, worthwhile for the buddings students of CM!

kal · Post by **kal** » 04 Feb 2013, 00:54

it will be great to have a compilation to pass on to the future generation.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 04 Feb 2013, 01:23

I went to the vikatan website, http://vikatan.com/ , to see if the first step is to pass a link to this thread to any contact email address there.
But the bANi of content and presentation of it gave me pause. It is is not our fathers' vikatan

That route may still work but I thought I will post that here to get any input on the actual mechanics of getting this started.

This also made me wonder how these old issues are preserved. In what format? Or they just have paper copies of them.
Sri. Pasupathy mentioned in the other thread that Vikatan published such an archive. Was that scanned copies or somehow they had the right format somehow that allowed them to selectively reprint. I do not know much about the publishing technology of those times to even hazard a guess.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 04 Feb 2013, 01:39

Alright, I overcame my initial hesitation and marched on . The contacts page is actually quite good.
http://www.vikatan.com/info.php?type=contact

I think it has the right info.

Vikatan Publications:

Issues related with the special books published by vikatan
விகடன் பிரசுரங்கள் பற்றிய நேரடி தொடர்புக்கு ( direct contact number for Vikatan publications ) : Tel: +91 44 42634283 / 84

Email: [email protected]

Ponbhairavi and Sridhar_ranga, may I volunteer you two for a task? If you can call the above number during the week and inquire about the procedures to engage with them on this project, that will be great. You can coordinate that between you two. You can rope in Sri. Pasupathy but he mentioned he is spread too thin among other activities, so may be he can pitch in once the initial ground work gives us some encouragement. Even if you do not go anywhere beyond the receptionist, that is still some useful information.

I have emailed [email protected] pointing out this thread and describing our wishes. Since they do have skype ids, a few of us can get on a conference call with them if that will help move the ball forward.

We will see where it goes.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 04 Feb 2013, 06:08

Excellent work VK!
Let us hope our TN based friends will do some followup. We need more collective response from our membership. Wonder whether an appeal during the next Cleveland Festival will be fruitful. Our VKV can advise us as also MKR who knows the pulse of the seniors...
I hope some practising musicians take some interest too! Sanjay/TMK/ NSJ/Sudha/BJ/.....
Vikatan will pursue if it is likely to be commercailly successful...

sridhar_ranga · Post by **sridhar_ranga** » 04 Feb 2013, 12:19

VK, hopefully I will shift base to India in a few months and can pick up the action items from then on.

Ramasubramanian M.K · Post by **Ramasubramanian M.K** » 04 Feb 2013, 15:08

Forumites: Coopt me in this endeavour in whatevr way you think appropriate!!
If any of the forumites living in Chennai want to contact/collar me for the project I will be in Chennai between Feb 10th to 18th(My local landline# 24610620.)If I do not pick up the phone my 94-yearold Mom would pick up the phone in the mdist of her singing an arcane jesinathella(Thodi) or Thiruvadi Charanam(kambodhi). Please do not be flustered!!!

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 04 Feb 2013, 15:42

How I wish I were living in chennai! I could be of some help in this.
Additional bonus would have been listening to MkR's 94 year old mother's singing(possible when Shri MKR' picks up the phone and she is in the midst of her jesinadella or tiruvadi charanam)

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 04 Feb 2013, 16:06

I think MKR's mum is about to get lots of phone calls. Let her know not to stop singing when she answers

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 04 Feb 2013, 16:23

I contacted the Ananda vikatan, by phone .The person who took the phone put me on to another person. I explained about our site and the purpose of my call.the result:
1- they have a section called " pettagam"in which they keep their archives.
2-they have already brought out sometime back separate booklets containing the old pictorial jokes of Gopulu, Raju,sridhar,madhan from their archives which are available on sale
3-compilation of musical portions has not been brought out
4-the person to be contactedis Mr. Saravanan., the Editor.
5-I told that an email about our idea has been sent to them by VK for which he said he will get a reply.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 04 Feb 2013, 20:33

Welldone ponbhairavi! looks like we will take off..
Let us try to get the Tamil versions first. We can cooperate on the translations under
sridhar_ranaga's leadership later. Let us try to see whether senior and other musicians
like Manakkal, TRS,UKS,... will support by adding their recollections.
Somebody can contact them locally.
I wonder whether Sriram (editor Sangeetham) the unofficial CM Historian will sponsor and assist.
Pl contact Kalki as well..
More ideas... Pasupathy please...

sridhar · Post by **sridhar** » 04 Feb 2013, 20:49

[quote="Ponbhairavi"
2-they have already brought out sometime back separate booklets containing the old pictorial jokes of Gopulu, Raju,sridhar,madhan from their archives which are available on sale
/quote]
I would love to know the names of these titles and where one might be able to purchase them.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 04 Feb 2013, 22:04

Thanks Ponbhairavi for the prompt action. sridhar_rang, for some reason I thought you are now in Chennai. That is fine, once you are back in Chennai, you can lead some of the efforts. Let us wait for any replies to my email to them and proceed accordingly.

MKR, keep following this thread for any updates. I am thinking that what may be useful is to setup an appointment to see Sri. Saravanan, the Editor when you are in Chennai, if you have time and if it can be worked out. If others want to join, that will be great as well to keep the engagement rich and ongoing until the project gets done.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 04 Feb 2013, 22:19

Pl somebody call and inform Nageswaran who is an active Forumte and who organized all the Rasika meets so far.
Our Forum mail is still not working properly. Thanks.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 04 Feb 2013, 22:24

I used to live next door to the Vanathi man. Obviously deeply involved with Tamil language, but also a music lover. Very elderly, now, I think.

CRama · Post by **CRama** » 05 Feb 2013, 09:52

Vanathi Publications has its office opposite to the GPO, Pondy Bazaar. They have got the publications of Kalki. One book is titled Sangeetha yogam which contains all the music reviews, related articles written by Kalki in Anandavikatan and Kalki in the thirtees-fiftees. Another Book is Kalki valartha kalaikal. It also contains detailed write up about the music scene in Tamilnadu at that point of time, besides reviews and articles on famous musicians of the time. These books can be purchased and then digitized by whatever means possible.

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 05 Feb 2013, 10:02

I would like to be of some help. But , not staying in chennai, in what way can I help?

Ramasubramanian M.K · Post by **Ramasubramanian M.K** » 05 Feb 2013, 15:24

Thanks to Ponbhairavi,CRama for the info.I will follow-up during my short stay)Feb 10th thro 18th) in Chennai,with Mr.Saravanan of AV if Ponbhairavi can set up an appointment or accompany me I would be glad. I am still vague about what we want to accomplish--however for starters, I can help in going thro the pubs cited by C.Rama(buy them/see how they can be condensed into a historical narrative.

I can meet some of the Seniors(TNK,LGJ,TKM,TRS et al in person(time is the constraint for me so it would be helpful if forumites could frame specific questions they might like to ask of the Seniors mentioned above it would be helpful. As forumites know I am a master @ circumlocution so that I need to be focussed-- I promise I will adhere to the script!!.
Udayshankar--I suppose you are back from the US--was expecting a call from you. Please contact me(24610620) @ R.A.Puram I need your insight --perhaps we can schedule the meetings together.
Rajeshnat/Nageswaran--Ditto.
Punarvasu/Nick Thanks for the comments abt my Mom's music-- Punarvasu,I was in Mumbai between Jan 16th thro 21st in Chembur--Sorry could not arrange to meet you.

As for the Kalki and AV archives,if need be I can approach the upper echelons to help us. Again if someone can prepare a simple outline of our proposal and what we would want from the AV/Kalki people and WHAT we expect from the Seniors it would help(VK--would you like to try?).

I AM VERY MUCH EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT AND I AM WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES DESPITE THE FACT THAT I AM BASED IN ny AND MY TIME IN CHENNAI IS SHORT.(UNFORTUNATELY MY CELLPHONE HAS BEEN "HIJACKED" BY MY WIFE SO I AM NOT ACCESSIBLE EXCEPT THRO THE LANDLINE--SUBJECT TO MY mOM'S WHIMS!!

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 05 Feb 2013, 15:33

CRama wrote:...These books can be purchased and then digitized by whatever means possible.

When it comes to the digitisation and sharing of in-print/copyright books, one should proceed with caution, discretion and permission. Publishing is not the easiest way to make a living, and if we value books and the future of books we should support publishers.

Pratyaksham Bala · Post by **Pratyaksham Bala** » 05 Feb 2013, 15:53

sridhar wrote:[quote="Ponbhairavi"
2-they have already brought out sometime back separate booklets containing the old pictorial jokes of Gopulu, Raju,sridhar,madhan from their archives which are available on sale/quote]

I would love to know the names of these titles and where one might be able to purchase them.

http://books.vikatan.com/index.php?cid= ... 20Cartoons

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 05 Feb 2013, 16:12

MKR wrote:
Punarvasu/Nick Thanks for the comments abt my Mom's music-- Punarvasu,I was in Mumbai between Jan 16th thro 21st in Chembur--Sorry could not arrange to meet you.

Wish I had known. Would have been happy to meet you. May be next time. Regards to your mother.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 05 Feb 2013, 20:24

CRama wrote:Vanathi Publications has its office opposite to the GPO, Pondy Bazaar. They have got the publications of Kalki. One book is titled Sangeetha yogam which contains all the music reviews, related articles written by Kalki in Anandavikatan and Kalki in the thirtees-fiftees. Another Book is Kalki valartha kalaikal. It also contains detailed write up about the music scene in Tamilnadu at that point of time, besides reviews and articles on famous musicians of the time. These books can be purchased and then digitized by whatever means possible.

Will be much obliged if you can give their web adddress/email and info as to whether they can ship abroad.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 05 Feb 2013, 20:33

Thanks MKR for the encouraging sentiments.
Let these be a cooperative endeavour.
Many hands make light work.
The editing and translations can be done cooperatively whatever time it takes.
Comments from musicians LGJ/TRS/Manakkal/TS/UKS/RKS/.. will be very valuable.
With your masterful editorial/publishing experience this may turn out to be a golden Nugget!
Let us make it a Forum initiative....

Pratyaksham Bala · Post by **Pratyaksham Bala** » 05 Feb 2013, 22:28

cmlover wrote:[quote - "CRama" Vanathi Publications has its office opposite to the GPO, Pondy Bazaar. They have got the publications of Kalki. One book is titled Sangeetha yogam which contains all the music reviews, related articles written by Kalki in Anandavikatan and Kalki in the thirtees-fiftees. Another Book is Kalki valartha kalaikal. .../quote]
Will be much obliged if you can give their web adddress/email and info as to whether they can ship abroad.

Sangeeth Yogam:
http://www.nannool.com/books/publisher/ ... ok&so=desc
Kalki Valarththa Kalaigal:
http://test.nannool.com/book-detail/res ... odId=30111

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 05 Feb 2013, 23:02

Thanks PB!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 05 Feb 2013, 23:14

MKR: With respect to the topic of discussion with AV, I think what we have so far is

1) A pokkisham type book but the one that focuses deeply on music and music related articles that AV had published, going as far back as possible.

I think that is the basic stuff. Everything else is optional.

Optional

2) To make it more interesting, since many of the artists that are talked about in those archive articles are still alive, they can have those artists' recollections or anecdotes about that time period. While this will be useful, we do not want the enormity of this task to bring down the main objective.

3) Offer to help them with digital publishing ( Kindle, iBookstore etc. ) in case they are not thinking about that. I am sure they have better contacts within the digital publishing industry, so this is just to prod them to do at the minimum a Kindle edition.

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 06 Feb 2013, 03:25

Thanks, CML and everyone else. I'm sorry that I could not come here earlier.
A few facts and some views about this project;
1) Vikatan, acc to my info, has probably digitized most of their archives. They have been having a regular (archives) insert in their weekly called "pokkisham" from 08.
Then one yr later, started a subsection called "kaalap pettagam"(KP). Each week afterwards KP covered highlights of one yr, starting from the first issue of Vikatan.
Then in 11, they published a compendium of KP , covering 1926-2000. About 4 to 5 pages for each yr, total 350+ pages. This does have musical nuggets. But due to page constraints, only excerpts of many articles were there in KP. Readers wanted more ; more full articles. So another book , "pokkisham"(P) was published in Dec 11.
P also has some good musical nuggets. Since the two books had to concentrate on a multitude of fields, music occupies only a short fraction. Still a good effort.
And I recommend those interested to get the two books.
2) Another similar ealier unique effort is "Hindu speaks on music". Dec 99. Again a good effort. But the emphasis is more on "persons" rather than on "events". This is generally true of Vikatan books too.
3) I don't see evidence of Kalki having digitized their archives.
4) As some of my blog-posts reveal, the articles on many events ( such as Tyagaraja Aradhana, Music Season ), Interviews with musicians , reviews of Radio concerts, musical jokes , caricatures of Mali, Silpi etc would add to our knowledge. ( Again the joke books of Gopulu, Raju while very good, do not do justice to musical jokes..)
I think adding Dance + film reviews of films with musical themes ( Tyagayya, with Nagiah) + Dramas ...will make the collection commercially successful.
( I have seen Kalki reviewing KBSundarambal +SGKittappa in a drama)....

5) I think Hindu book will be a good starting model for Vikatan. Kalki also, if they can be persuaded. Even Dinamani may have many nice articles to offer.
It's only from the collection of all these, we can get a good view of the CM history. Again, I would like to emphasize the need for more reports about events, not just about people.
6) I think it will be good to get the support of some Vikatan ex-staffers . e.g. VSV , who was an Editor and author of many music-related books.
http://www.noolulagam.com/books/?authorid=64
He writes the annual "SRGMPDN Diary" in Vikatan , covering the music season. If you have him on yur side, he himself can be the Editor of such a compendium.
In addition you have a knowledgable critic to select the articles. ( I don't know who VSV is or do not know his address etc.)

I am sorry I can't do much more; being in Toronto, Canada . Persuading Vikatan to bring out one such "isaip pokkisham" or "aadal-paadal pokkisham" is the main objective. Similarly with Kalki. If you can garner the support of people who have influence at Vikatan and Kalki , it will help.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 06 Feb 2013, 05:08

Thanks for the info.
So it all amounts to our concerted voices and local followup.
A simple compendium though valuable will not be that exciting.
Comments by living musicians/Rasikas will make it colourful.
They should take it as a contribution to Arts rather than a commercial venture.
Let us wait and see...
It is a good idea to persuade Hindu also since those collections are available to all
irrespective of language.
Should we also approach Philanthropic organizations to support this project?

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 06 Feb 2013, 05:49

>>So it all amounts to our concerted voices and local followup.
>.A simple compendium though valuable will not be that exciting.

This is a monumental task by itself. Will be a window to past. Good enough for me.

>>Comments by living musicians/Rasikas will make it colourful.

This is not an easy task...and I doubt if Vikatan or Kalki will do it and add them to an archives-compendium.
If you can get interviews from living musicians , I think they will prefer those being published in today's magazines first .... and I'm not sure magazines will be ready to give space and publish those comments about the past...say, about 100th Tyagaraja Aradhana celebrated in 1946 or 150th Aradhana in 97. What I'm interested in, though, are reports and pictures about these events. Even Sruti magazine may not do it now. If they give interviews on such subjects, they can be published in our Group. I think that's the only feasible thing to aim for. After the book is published, of course, one can solicit comments too and publish them here too.

>>It is a good idea to persuade Hindu also since those collections are available to all
>.irrespective of language.

Having done it once, I'm not sure if Hindu will want to do it again. Also, the presence of Internet and wide availability of articles (from Hindu itself) have changed the equation. Many articles in the Web give more info about many musicians than the ones in "Hindu" compendium. The interesting info, reports and articles about past not available in Web will be the ones which will sell.
Also people like Sriram , who seem to have access to Hindu archives, are already writing very good articles on some aspects about the History of CM and Sabhas and personalities. Tamil books on GNB, Palani Subramanya Pillai , Palaghat Mani , MS et al have also appeared. Reports by those who witnessed many CM events of the past are the ones , in my opinion, the most useful. e.g. Arasi mentioned in another thread about VVSadagopan's "kamba ramayanam" concert. I'd like to read a report or review of that! Nobody has published or talked about it so far in any compendium I know of ! Similarly I'm sure there are many other events needing exposure.

>>Should we also approach Philanthropic organizations to support this project?

Only if Vikatan or Kalki demands it as a pre-condition.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 06 Feb 2013, 07:16

To start with, if most of the stuff are already digital can we request them to give us access to the music section
for a fee?
With permission we can post them at our History of Carnatic Music section at this Forum with some lively discussions!
You have already whetted our appetite with the bits and pieces in your blog. Further we can easily get them translated and
make available for the larger CM community.
Granted, not too many are likely to be excited at CM History! But then History can be made interesting and lively
with active discussions..

Ramasubramanian M.K · Post by **Ramasubramanian M.K** » 06 Feb 2013, 17:01

Pasupathy/CM Lover/Vasanthakokilam--Thanks for the clarifications!!It is very helpful to me. Let me see what I can followup in Chennai.It does seem like a monumental task but I think our forum and forumites --both are well-equipeed to do it.
Pasupathy--we can exchange notes after I return to NY after Feb 19th. Will send you an e-mail thro rasikas.org with my contact #s. Incase you visit NY please feel free to contact me.
CM Lover--the same holds for you as well!! If you visit NY please let me know.While the idea of enlisting the Seniors in this project is good,I beleive we shoul do the compilation first and then in the appropriate places/spaces we can segue into the relevant Seniors' reminiscences and recalls.
Lots of work and need for ACTION!!(I am telingmyself--the World's most notorious slacker as my wife would aver and as some forumites who were following the SSI thread would wonder about the lamost 2-year hiatus since the last post on the topic!!!.
Age has its privileges--in my case tardiness is one of them!!!

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 06 Feb 2013, 18:27

cmlover wrote:To start with, if most of the stuff are already digital can we request them to give us access to the music section
for a fee?
With permission we can post them at our History of Carnatic Music section at this Forum with some lively discussions!
You have already whetted our appetite with the bits and pieces in your blog. Further we can easily get them translated and
make available for the larger CM community.
Granted, not too many are likely to be excited at CM History! But then History can be made interesting and lively
with active discussions..

You can certainly request; but I don't think you would get it. First of all, these articles etc are not isolated and ready to be
used.One has to go issue by issue and separate the music portions etc. Judgement call. Lots of work. Daily work. Careful handling of digital files. Not many people have permission to these digital archives. Righly so, in my opinion. Sorry to be pessimistic. You will be lucky if Vikatan agrees to bring out a Music Alone Book . Then perhaps you can get special permission to republish portions in the Forum (perhaps for a fee) and follow up with discussions etc. Translations etc. That is definitely something Rasikas can do.

Again judging from the reactions to my blog-posts, even these comments or active discussions do not not appear to be easy or forthcoming!:-)) I think the history buffs are just happy to read them... but that's the end of it. As a devil's advocate, let me ask a Question. " Hindu speaks on Music" has been around for many years. how many in this Forum have read it? After all, language barrier is not there. That book has 100 yrs of History thru the eyses of Hindu. How many discussions happened here about the content of that book? Can you point me to a threead? If that did not happen for an English book , what makes you think that it will happen for a Tamil book?

) ( actually, personally, I think that the Tamil articles I have seen have more "spice" and are more colourful than the English ones I have seen in Hindu Book.... so I think the Tamil articles like the ones I posted are more enjoyable ..at least to me. Any case, that's my personal opinion. Some of NMN,SVK's columns/reviews and Subbudu's reviews in Indian Express are exceptions:-))....but Hindu book has completely avoided reviews .. just to avoid controversy perhaps)

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 06 Feb 2013, 18:41

Ramasubramanian M.K wrote:Pasupathy/CM Lover/Vasanthakokilam--Thanks for the clarifications!!It is very helpful to me. Let me see what I can followup in Chennai.It does seem like a monumental task but I think our forum and forumites --both are well-equipeed to do it.
CM Lover--the same holds for you as well!! If you visit NY please let me know.While the idea of enlisting the Seniors in this project is good,I beleive we shoul do the compilation first and then in the appropriate places/spaces we can segue into the relevant Seniors' reminiscences and recalls.
!!

Thanks for your support and enthusiasm.
As I indicated in my reply to CML, I think that the only work for some of the senior Forumites with clout is to try to persuade Vikatan to bring out a " Vikatan speaks on Music" type of Book. As I suggested, if you get the support of someone like VSV, this may become easier. Similarly for Kalki. I don't think outsiders will be allowed to do the compiling etc. You can certainly offer some persons' help in choosing the articles etc; but again I think this is not an easy or practical job for outsiders to do. It requires daily involvement and visits etc. Only Vikatan staff or Vikatan music critics like VSV will be allowed, I think.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 06 Feb 2013, 20:52

Pasupathy
You are a realist rather than a pessimist. Most of what you say is true. Folks will respond only to controversies or their bete-noire ! I certainly am not suggesting a gossip column

I used to be a great fan of Vikatan music columns in those days. They were laced with facts and humour. For example there used to be a serial called "ivarkaL santhtthaal..." (some creative imaginary conversations) which was very popular! Then many of the present generations do not know about the Timeless eternally green controversies (SSI vs subbudu/KB vs SSI/KB vs BMK/...) and then there are the controversies relevant to Tamil Isai etc., History should document warts and all and not a dry program listings!

Perhaps I am living too much in the past

Present generation should know the documented genealogy of CM to appreciate it better..
(For examples MKR used to keep us spell-bound through his witty narrations of Ms/Sadashivam and SSI (incomplete

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 06 Feb 2013, 22:27

cmlover wrote:Pasupathy

I used to be a great fan of Vikatan music columns in those days. They were laced with facts and humour. For example there used to be a serial called "ivarkaL santhtthaal..." (some creative imaginary conversations) which was very popular! Then many of the present generations do not know about the Timeless eternally green controversies (SSI vs subbudu/KB vs SSI/KB vs BMK/...) and then there are the controversies relevant to Tamil Isai etc., History should document warts and all and not a dry program listings!

I agree with you. I used to have some of these columns ...'ivargaL sandhiththAL'.... don't know if they are still there.....

I think if we can just get the "music" part of Vikatan +Kalki archives printed , many of the old stories will come to light. Most of our objectives will be served.
Some of other magazines like Idhayam pEsukiRathu, Dinamani Kadhir have also published some "spicy" material...mostly Subbudu-generated....
That comes "next"!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 06 Feb 2013, 22:46

Have you looked at our Hilarity thread?
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic. ... t=Hilarity
You may have some nice stories (original and made-up) to add there!