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Post by rajeshnat » 04 Aug 2016, 08:05

Rajagopalan sir
YOu have a great imagination bringing contextual relevance like the drama writer komal swaminathan .How about you writing the next one based on Gamakam Shruthi and Taalam - GST which is what every one is focused now.

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 04 Aug 2016, 22:07

Thank you Nick,Pattama, Rajeshnat,Thanjavooran,pratyaksham bala.
Arasi ,thanks for your poem.It provokes my thought on a couple of points,already touched upon in my earlier post albeit in an indirect way.
1- "Do we need to worry ?"
I have been listening to CMfor the last 60 years. I feel that CM is now in safe hands hale and healthy.As compared to the past the number of talented quality performers is 100 times more than what it was 60 years ago, the number of rasikas is 1000 times more. CM has grown out of its babasuit of childhood of the cauvery delta which has become too tight and is now shining in its youthful exuberance in the free Jibba in chennai , bombay, bengaluru , trivandrum and hyderabad.As a third stage we are able to see it spreading its wings to various continents of the globe.Music, like any other field, does not depend upon a single individual however great he might be and no one can say :" apres moi le deluge "
2-"do sensible things without any fuss, not leaving your music behind
CM , like any other art form ,( not at a dilettante level but at a high professional level,) is like a jealous , possessive wife who would not share her husband with any concubine.Many a musician have quit their I T , auditor or other profession ( some even a discordant life partner ) to devote themselves exclusively for this art.
Prudent musicians always remember that a sword of Damocles is hanging over their head and that their art career is precarious because a tiny bacteria or an invisible virus of this polluted world which enters their lung through their throat at the ubiquitous A/C enclosures or during a long plane journey is enough to upset their professional standing.
A musician may have excellent linguistic abilities but he should not forget that producing a book of 500 pages has robbed him of 1000 hours of music practice . Hence, No. NO Not now ,not at this stage of life whe he is one of the top.
T M K has said that his music is pure art form " art for art sake " and not an instrument of bhakthi. Now why should he allow it to be branded and glorified as a broomstick , a tool to cleanse the stinking garbage of caste based "social service " from where it will sink him in the field of politics.
I would tell him " Beware, Magsaysay is a golden deer" mArichan sent out by a distant Ravanan to serve his own political design.He should stand up and say I will not accept any award unless it is exclusively for my art music."
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Post by Ponbhairavi » 04 Aug 2016, 22:11

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 05 Aug 2016, 19:30

To be added as the last sentence of the last para of my post at 202.

Because if he accepts the offer as it is worded now, it would mean that he accepts that music has a social purpose hence contrary to his concept of art for art sake.

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Post by shankarank » 11 Sep 2016, 08:47

Ponbhairavi wrote:T M K has said that his music is pure art form " art for art sake " and not an instrument of bhakthi
Well he also said that in a different way - that is this is not a religious music. I would agree with him - we have many religions ( meaning dogmas) within the pedagogy - many a guru has installed a terminator gene into their Sishyas endowing them with dogmas that made them not see the world as it changes and adapt and introspect what is indeed the core values they should carry forward etc. Those dogmas are the correct meaning of the word religion - not the rama and krishna in the lyrics. And we use the word "lyrics" as non-chalantly in the sense of another movie song lyric that is ordered by the producer.

TMK in his Jaya TV post margazhi MMU interview lectures about "finding love in life" and clarifies what he means by "love" to the Mamis of chennai as if they are prudish. Somebody from his family tree should have been there to stand up and tell this guy - "un toppul kodi arutta katti en kaila irukku" ( I have the scissors that cut your umblical cord!!) . Unna padikka vachu ALAkki!! - English mediattluE padikka veccha appanuku english teriyalennu solluvAnAm ( if they admit him to English medium school - he would come back and tell them they don't know English ) kind of a guy!

What a nit-wit!

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 28 Jan 2017, 11:50

.A great social Revolution or The tail of two villages.

Panjakuppam is a typical coastal village with a population of about 450 fisherman families .many people think that it owes its name to the abject poverty of the people, but it is not so. It is so named because it is situated in the delta of five (pancha ) rivers or rather canals.in the present day rivers become mere canals and canals look like rivers. Unlike rivers devoid of water ,these canals are always full whether they flow or stagnate -though this water is unfit for any usage because these canals carry the discharge from the adjoining leather factories and all sorts of polluting factories including innumerable dhobi ghats all along -washing the dirty linens of urban civilisation in the open. These canals carry all their scum to the ocean and when they stagnate in rainy season ,the credulous boys of the village boast that their village is like Venice as told to them by some foreign tourists with mischievous sarcasm.
Just at the tail of the village in a poramboke area there is a small mound of accumulated sand and a granite slab lying thereon.. Pigs with their family and friends were seen enjoying with glee after their bath in the unholy waters,at the confluence of the effluents. Peta has ensured their unbridled multiplication and longevity ever since Shiva and Arjuna disputed the credit for killing one of their ancestors. Nobody knew what that mound is and the locals do not care about it , but not so the inquisitive tourists. One of them an amateur archeologist, casually found there, inter alia, a thermometer and a strip of unused antipyretic pills.He formed a theory that a good samaritan doctor who wanted to find a remedy to swine flu should have ventured there following an erring( infection carrying ) swine and he should have expired and someone who wanted to plant a tomb stone for him should also have died before completing his job - both victims of the terrible disease. As no villager has produced any proof to counter his theory, it became an assertion, and then a myth.
This archeologist is a wealthy Australian who lost his only son who went to India to attend the december music season and who succumbed to the swine flu . With his enormous wealth he founded a society to create awareness among the poor villagers in India called PETAR in VTWC,Poverty Eradication through active reformation in villages of the third world countries.) This society gives an award with sumptuous cash to social reformers who create awareness of prevalent age -old social evils.Under the aegis of this society a team of five experts was sent to panjakuppam to make an in depth study of the miserable condition and suggest practical solutions particularly in five aspects namely, Health ,education, civilisation, economics and culture. A local person was named as coordinator.
In the HEALTH aspect the team found that the villagers who are fishermen are quite healthy and immune to common infections.. But there is scope for further improvement the experts suggested the construction of an air conditioned gymnasium and a swimming pool. It was also suggested that each house should be supplied with a weighing balance and the villagers should be taught to maintain daily records of their post prandial weight so that it will give an invaluable clue in the event of cancer.

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 28 Jan 2017, 15:48

A tail of two villages --part 2
From the point of view of EDUCATION the villagers know only the spoken tamil.They are ignorant of sanscrit which holds the key to the glorious past of india and also telegu which holds the key to the carnatic music .Further probe revealed that the brahmins are guilty of this catastrophe as they have prevented the gullible people from learning those languages with the ulterior motive of keeping the vedas and music to themselves.Ít is time that the village folks are taught these languages by german or american professors. These profs would also open up these villagers to the study of greek and latin so that they can have access to the wisdom of Aristotle and Seneca. On the Science angle they should be taught anthropology with special reference to dinosaurs , and also boolean algebra
The village inmates have a complete uncivilized look.These bare foot half naked persons should be encouraged to use socks shoes ,gumboots, woollen t-shirts to protect their chest and most essentially they should be taught how to knot a necktie, when going on hundreds of nautical miles. Womenfolks should be taught to use face powder lipstick, vanishing creams to protect them from sun strokes, body perfumes to exhale non fishy smells, nail polish and high heel shoes. Pipe smoking instead suruttu, and wine drinking will give them longer lifespan.
Their ECONOMICS is based on catching and selling fishes and salt production. This will never improve their financial condition even after thousand years..A radical diversification is needed.they should give up catching fishes and go in for getting pearls even waiting for several months.Sand business is the secret of the present day multi millionaires.. Our villagers can easily make fortunes by selling to housing contractors sea sands which is freely available to them,.they should also be told the great secret that adding a little of cod liver oil to the sand at the rate of 15 ml per tonne will prevent the steel rods from rusting..
It is noticed that there are innumerable cycle repair shops, two wheeler and automobile repair shops. But there is not a single aircraft repair shop even in chennai although hundreds of plane come and go from chennai everyday.To start the training module, our society should gift the village with a modern aircraft and spare the services of an aircraft technical expert to give them training.
CULTURE is the domain which needs immediate attention as they have been kept suppressed by several generations of upper caste people. First and foremost we have to create an awareness by working on their subconscious self.This will ignite the cultural revolution. A secret survey by a famous newspaper after the december season has revealed that abhang bhajan bhagavathars and harikata exponents earn huge income even more than reputed music vidwans. It is due to the fact that their season is spread throughout the year and their venue
(temples and bhajanai matams )are ubiquitous.. The village folks should be trained in this
art form .But there may be some folks who are secular minded and would like to keep art away from religion. For them the ideal is pure art carnatic music which is futuristic and has lot of scope. In either case they should be taught some basic carnatic music But.It is not easy to find a ,teacher for this, because most ofthe cm musicians are brahmins and obviously they will not reveal thetrue secret of their art to a low caste person. But we need not lose hope . There may be some exceptions..Actually there is a precedent: about 1000 years back, a sishya learnt a metaphysical secret from his Guru promising that he will not reveal it to anyone but the next minute after learning he went without any compunction to publicly reveal the secret shouting from gopuram top with respectful defiance not amounting to" guru drogam"

The PETAR studied this expert report and nominated a coordinator to implement the project.Money was no problem as the international trust was ready to spend any amount to the rehabilitation of this village as it is the pet project of the archeologist founder.Needless to say that the coordinator was an expert in all the aspects of the report. He came to the site immediately but he was stunned to find that there is no panjakuppam village.How can it disappear ? to be concluded

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Post by rajeshnat » 28 Jan 2017, 16:16

Rajagopalan Sir
YOu are not just a great story teller you are also a great screen play writer and a tactful director . You left the interval at the right time by stating this as the last phrase
He came to the site immediately but he was stunned to find that there is no panjakuppam village.How can it disappear
By any chance did they conduct a pancha rathna krithi utsavam to celebrate CULTURE in panjakuppam near the village shores and was there a sudden tsunami that took the whole panjakuppam . I will wait for your second half.

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 29 Jan 2017, 08:32

thank you rajesh, here is the concluding part

The perplexed coordinator made enquiries and learnt that the village was washed out in a sudden baby tsunami. How sad !He noticed a new flat complex in what was previously a poramboke land, and on enquiry he found that after the tsunami the villagers were all safely housed there and it was called Samudhra complex.
No more panjakuppam.he could not reconcile .utterly dejected he was erring around when suddenly his eyes fell on the mound and the granite slab about which he has read . How is it that the tsunami which washed out the entire village could not touch this small mound? Surely the doctor who laid down his life here for a social cause should have been a saint with mystical powers which even Tsunami could not touch.He blamed himself for taking this long to find out this simple truth. His lips murmured an old cinema song by chandra bapu.
¨ nAn oru muttALunga, romba nallA padichavanga nAlu pEru sonnanga….
Suddenly an idea flashed in his mind. Why not rehabilitate this samadhi of the anonymous saint doctor with the name of panjakuppam swamigal.? It was immediately put under execution and a samadhi started coming up.While supervising the construction his lips murmured : nAn oru muttALunga song.The song has such an irresistible charm that the small boys who wandered there joined him in the chorus.He made a neraval: nAn oru muttALunga .. neegaL ellAm muttALa ? the children were delighted and they repeated as in a bhajan: nAngaL yellam muttALunga ni oru muttALA.then they danced in circle as in a abhang divyanama sangeerthan
The construction over, the coordinator invited his boss the archeologist to come and inaugurate the samadhi of the panjakuppam swamigal,Who is the pioneer who wanted to create an awareness to the problem of swine flu.Needless to say that the inauguration was attended by all unorthodox musicians who were dreaming of a concert in australia. All of them have in no time learnt this song of a comedian “gem of a song” rightly called “panja rathnam”. Soon the place became a centre of pilgrimage for those who want to do social upliftment service. Our archeologist is so rich and influential and of course due to the grace of the saint swamigal the celebrations reached international proportions with viral speed with satellite celebrations: Chennayil panjakuppam, Newyorkil panjakuppam Sydniyil panjakuppam Paris il panjakuppam. The speciality of this “panjaratnam” is that anybody can sing it in any raga but the only restriction is that while singing the singer can wear any dress even a swimming suit or undergarments or even a "kovanam"but should not wear a dhoti because the dhoti is a relic of south indian brahminical hegemony
Samudhra complex could have obliterated the village but the NAME panjakupam has been rehabilitated throughout the world that is the power of music


P.S question: the title says A tail of two villlages where is the other one?
Answer : It is submerged in the ocean actually under the samadhi of panjakuppam swamigal remember Dwaraka, Tranquebar.

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 02 Feb 2017, 01:31

நம் மீனவர்கள் பாடு மிகவும் பரிதாபம் !தென் கடற்கரையில் மீன் பிடிக்கச்சென்றால் அண்டை நாட்டு காரன் தொல்லை. வட பகுதி கடற்கரையில்
எண்ணெய் படலம் !மீனவர்கள் துன்ப வாழ்க்கையை பற்றி ஒரு கவிதை:

நடுக்கடலில், நள்ளிரவில் ...
மகிழ்ச்சி பொங்க நெடும் பயணம் மேவிச்சென்ற
எத்தனை மீனவர்கள் எத்தனை மாலுமிகள் ,அந்தோ,
துயர் மிகு அத்தொடுவானில் தொலைந்தே
போய்விட்டனரே ! சோக மிகு விதியின் கொடுமையிது!
நிலவில்லா மையிருட்டில் ஆழங்காணா அலை வெளியில்
கண்ணிலாக் கருங் கடலில் எண்ணிலா மாந்தர்கள்
நிரந்தரமாய் நீருக்குள் அழுந்திப் புதைந்து போயினரே!.

சிதைந்து போன தலைகளே
உங்களுக்கு உற்ற கதி யார் அறிவார் ?
பாதாள இருள் வெளியில் உருண்டு புரண்டு உலகறியாப்
பாறைகளை உயிரற்ற உங்கள் நெற்றியியால் முட்டி த்
தள்ளிக்கொண்டிருக்கிறீர்களே ! நாளொன்று தவறாமல்
கடலோரம் வந்து வராத உங்கள் வருகையை
எதிர்பார்த்து எதிர்பார்த்து தம் ஒரே கனவும் நிறைவேறா
ஏமாற்றத்தில் உயிர் நீத்த வயோதிக
பெற்றோர்கள் தாம் எத்தனை பேர். !

கண் விழித்திருக்கும் இரவுகளில் சில சமயம்
உங்களைப் பற்றிய பேச்சு வரும் .
கரை மணலில் அரை குறையாய் ப் புதைந்து கிடக்கும்
பழைய துரு ப்பிடித்த நங்கூரம் ஒன்றினைச்
சுற்றி அமர்ந்து கூடி களித்திருக்கும் சில நாளில்
பழைய பாடல்கள் ,கேலி பேச்சுக்கள் ,வீர சாகசங்கள் ,
உங்கள் காதலிக்கு கிட்டாத முத்தங்கள்
ஆகிய இவற்றுடன் இணைத்துப் பிணைத்து
நிழல் படிந்த உங்கள் பெயரும் பேசப்படும் சில காலம் வரை .
நீங்களோ ஆழ்கடல் அடியில் பச்சைப் பாசி படுக்கையில்
படுத்து உறங்கிக் கொண்டிருப்பீர்கள் !

யாரோ கேட்பார்: எங்கே அவர்கள்? ஏதேனும் தீவு ஒன்றின்
மன்னர் ஆகி விட்டனரோ ? நம்மைக் கைவிட்டு
இதனினும் செழுமை மிகு இடம்
வேறெங்கும் போய்ச் சேர்ந்து விட்டனரோ ?
காலப்போக்கில் உங்கள் நினைவும் கூட மறைந்துவிடும் .
உப்பு தண்ணீரில் உடல் கரைந்து பொயிற்று
உள்ளத்து நினைவிலிருந்து பெயர் கரைந்து போயிற்று
தொடரும் ...

பிரபல பிரெஞ்சுக் கவிதைகள் ; VICTOR HUGO

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 02 Feb 2017, 16:46

நடுக்கடலில் நள்ளிரவில் ….(தொடர்ச்சி )

ஒவ்வொரு நிழலின் மீதும் அதனினும் கரியதோர்
நிழலைக் கொட்டி மெழுகி மூடிவிடும் காலனவன்
இருள் படர்ந்த கடலின் மெல் நினைவகற்றும்
மறதி எனும் போர்வையினைப் போர்த்திட்டான்

அனைவர் கண்களிலிரிந்தும் விரைவில்
உங்கள் நிழலும் மறைந்து விடும்.
அவர் அவர்க்கு அவர் அவர் பிழைப்பு இருக்கிறதே !
சிலருக்கு ஏர் கலப்பை சிலருக்கு கட்டு மரம்
ஆனாலும் புயல் காற்று பயங்கரமாய் கொக்கரிக்கும்
, இரவுகளில் நெற்றி வெளிறிய உங்கள் விதவைகள்
மாத்திரம் தனிமையின் வெறுமையில்
உங்களுக்காகவே காத்திருந்து காத்திருந்து
சலித்துப் போன பின்னும் கூட
உங்களைப் பற்றித்தான் பேசுகின்றனர் ,
கணப்பு தணல் மீது படிந்த சாம்பலையும்
தம் நினைவுகள் மீது படிந்த சாம்பலையும் கிளறியபடி.

காலப்போக்கில் கல்லறை அவர்கள் கண்களையும்
மூடியபின் உங்கள் பெயர் சொல்ல எதுவுமே இராது.
எங்கள் குரல் எதிரொலிக்கும் சிறு இடுகாட்டில்
எந்த வொரு மூலை முடு க்கிலும் சாதாரண
ஒரு நடுகல் கூட இல்லையே உங்கள் நினைவு கூர
குளிர் காலத்தில் உங்களுக்காக இலை உதிர்க்க
அழுமூஞ்சி செடி கூட இங்கில்லை !
தெருக்கோடி திருப்பத்தில் பழைய தோர் பாலத்தில்
அமர்ந்து ஒரு பிச்சைக்காரன் சம தொனியில் சோகமாய்
இழுத்து முனகும் தெம்மாங்கு பாடலில் கூட
உங்கள் நினைவு கூரும் வரி ஒன்று கூட இல்லையே !

இருள் சூழ் நள்ளிரவில் நடுக்கடலில் மூழ்கி
மறைந்து போன அக் கடலோடிகள் தாம் எங்கே ?
ஆர்ப்பரிக்கும் அலை களே ! எத்தனை சோகக்
கதைகளைத்தான் நீங்கள் சுமந்து கொண்டு இருக்கிறீர்கள்.!
ஆழ் கடலே ! தாய் மார்கள் உள்ளங்களை உலுக்கி
மண்டியிட செய்யும் பாழ் கடலே ! நீர் ஏற்ற நாள்களில்
திரண்டெழுந்து வந்து எமக்கு அச் சோக க்
கதைகளைத்தான் சொல்லி செல்கின்றீர்கள் .
ஆம் மாலை பொழுதினிலே கரை ஏறி எமை நோக்கி
வரும் போது உங்கள் குரல் தழு தழுத்து
ஓலமிட அச்சோகம் தான் காரணம் .

VICTOR HUGO(1840)
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Post by arasi » 19 May 2017, 08:38

Bala,
Kindly upload the cover of Ponbhairavi's translated novel (of Victor Hugo) here as well, so that those who do not browse the Literature forum (where you have posted it) get to see it. Thanks!


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Post by Ponbhairavi » 12 Aug 2017, 11:46

https://sites.google.com/site/literaturefrench/
Please See the above blogspot for a cartoon by Thanu

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Post by Pasupathy » 12 Aug 2017, 16:57

Thanks for the caricature by Thanu. ( where did it appear?)

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 13 Aug 2017, 11:40

An older friend of mine was kind enough to part with some of his precious collections of articles and pictures from Ananda vikatan of the 1940 es .

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Post by Pasupathy » 13 Aug 2017, 20:15

Thanks. I think the persons shown are those who attended the First Tamilisai Conf held in Chidambaram. 1941, I think. So I guess the issue of Vikatan, you have shown, belongs to that year. Correct? I have read an article by Kalki about the conf , titled " chidambaram makaanaadu" . Was it in the same issue?

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Post by Ponbhairavi » 14 Aug 2017, 12:25

Your memory is r.emarkable!!you are absolutely correct. But As it is only a collection of select articles including pictures,no full issue of any one vikatan is there.the lifco advt in one page shows it should be before 1941.i am attempting to send the a adal paadal katturai you have mentioned


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