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MBK
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Post by MBK » 07 Mar 2007, 18:25

Hi All....

As if listening to a haunting rendition by KVN & trying get more grasp on this raga was not fascinating enough....I learned today that Shyama Shastri is said to be the only composer to compose in this raga....???

There are many tricky yet magical phrases that have been brought out in the many renditions of SS's Devi Brova by artistes past & present.....

I would love to know more about the indept handling of this raga....& if the above is true, why was it so rare ???

Your contributions will be greatly appreciated.

Regards
MBK

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman » 07 Mar 2007, 19:50

While Shyama Shastri was the first one to compose a kriti in this raga, his is not the only composition. Here are the others:

Anni nivanuchu- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Are re kodandarama (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya
Devi brova samayamide ati vegame vachchi-Adi-Shyama Shastri
Kannadi vendumo velava en kuraigal kana-Adi-Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Mukti dayini moda vahini muladhara vasini (tv)-Ata-R.Venugopal
Ne talanu ika talanu ninnu judani bratuku (p)-Chapu-R.Venugopal
Om shakti ganapatim-Adi-R.K.Suryanarayana
Shriranga natha pundarikaksha sarangapanim (g)-Triputa-Vinai Shesha Iyer

MBK
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Post by MBK » 07 Mar 2007, 20:35

thanks Lakshman.

ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya » 07 Mar 2007, 22:37

Lakshman wrote:Are re kodandarama (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya
Lakshman,
Do you have the notation for this gIte in ChintAmaNi?

-Ramakriya

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman » 07 Mar 2007, 23:25

I am sorry I don't have either the lyrics or the notations.

arunk
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Post by arunk » 06 May 2008, 23:38

Can someone point me to a recording of this by BMK (i.e. the Chintamani that is not the popular version )

Thanks
Arun

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Post by ramakriya » 06 May 2008, 23:40

Arun , check your e-mail

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Post by arunk » 06 May 2008, 23:48

thanks!

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Post by arunk » 07 May 2008, 00:02

So is his version a janya of rAmapriya or pretty much rAmapriya as a friend suggested?

Arun
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tmohan
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Post by tmohan » 09 May 2008, 13:54

BMK's CintAmaNi is called as cintAramaNi as I recollect from the book Ragas of South India by Walter Kauffmann. This is a janyam of rAmapriya.

Mohan

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Post by arunk » 09 May 2008, 20:27

Thanks Mohan - I see that it is S G3 M2 P D2 N2 S | S N2 D2 P M2 G3 R1 S

Arun

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Post by mohan » 09 May 2008, 21:19

I would classify Chintamani as a raga sounding like Shanmughapriya in S-P range and Bhairavi in the P-S' range.
Some characteristic phrases include SSP - PDN,S' - DPMR,GSR. The RGSR phrase is very common.

Sowmya had sung Devi Brova (Chintamani) as a main piece (with ragam and swaram) in her 1999 Music Academy concert back. I think it may still be available online at http://www.eshakti.com/academy.asp (site registration required)

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Post by ramakriya » 09 May 2008, 21:38

arunk wrote:Thanks Mohan - I see that it is S G3 M2 P D2 N2 S | S N2 D2 P M2 G3 R1 S

Arun
And BMK sings it in madhyama shruti, making it nishAdAntya, more like,

S G3 M2 P D2 N2
N2 D2 P M2 G3 R1 N2 S

-Ramakriya

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Post by rvmony » 16 Oct 2008, 11:14

Devi Brova by MS Amma in Carnegie Hall...
How one can forget her Chintamani..

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Re: Chintamani

Post by narayara000 » 21 Mar 2017, 10:25

Why isn't Chintamani considered a janya of Hemavathi (58)?

Soniajain
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Re: Chintamani

Post by Soniajain » 04 Apr 2017, 15:34

Thank for guiding about this.

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Re: Chintamani

Post by melam72 » 04 Apr 2017, 20:18

narayara000 wrote:
21 Mar 2017, 10:25
Why isn't Chintamani considered a janya of Hemavathi (58)?
Because janya ragas with ambiguous murchanas are assigned to the melakarta with the lowest cardinal number (in this case, Shanmukhapriya, which is Melakarta 56).

Though, by the same logic, Gambheera Nattai should be classified under Mayamalavagoula instead of Chalanattai as it usually is...

Hmm...

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Re: Chintamani

Post by ratanabhinav » 05 Apr 2017, 22:16

melam72 wrote:
04 Apr 2017, 20:18
narayara000 wrote:
21 Mar 2017, 10:25
Why isn't Chintamani considered a janya of Hemavathi (58)?
Because janya ragas with ambiguous murchanas are assigned to the melakarta with the lowest cardinal number (in this case, Shanmukhapriya, which is Melakarta 56).

Though, by the same logic, Gambheera Nattai should be classified under Mayamalavagoula instead of Chalanattai as it usually is...

Hmm...
My logic is , chintamani is prati madhyama bhairavi , hence under shanmukhapriya , since natabhairavi is melakarta for bhairavi ,

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