Hamsadhwani

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 17 Mar 2007, 10:07

mahesh33
you mean -even after thanjavur's links ??

mahesh33 · Post by **mahesh33** » 17 Mar 2007, 10:12

yes saar

!

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 17 Mar 2007, 14:23

Parashakthi Janani by TRS

http://www.badongo.com/file/2489433

annapoorne · Post by **annapoorne** » 17 Mar 2007, 15:24

Mr Coolkarni

K L Saigal"s Rhumjum rhumjum...........mein bali jaye

What about the song "Ja tose more" from the film Parivar?
Sung by Lata it is very much like our Vathapi.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 17 Mar 2007, 16:22

Rhumjuma rhumjuma chala tihari

THAT IS SANKARA

The parivar song.You are right about Hamsadhwani.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 17 Mar 2007, 16:35

http://www.badongo.com/file/2490107

PIRAI_ANIYUM-HAMSADHWANI by TRS

mahesh33 · Post by **mahesh33** » 18 Mar 2007, 06:13

Kji, thanks! that was a good one

thanjavur · Post by **thanjavur** » 21 Mar 2007, 19:45

NADA ANUBOOTHI
http://home.sprynet.com/~dsivakumar/music/intromus.htm

Music Categories > Carnatic - Vocal > Ragas H... > Hamsadhwani
has the following tracks,

Gam Ganapathi(HMB) by DKJ
Ganapathe by KJY
Karunai seivai (Papanasam Sivan) by TVS
Mooladara Murthi (Papanasam Sivan) by R & J
Namami Vigna (Krishnaswami Iyer) by MLV
Parvati pathim (Dikshitar) by DKJ
Raghunayaka (Thyagarajar) by Sowmya
Sri Raghukula (Thyagarajar) by TNS, Sowmya, TVS
Thayaghi Thandhayaghi (Ramlinga Swami) by MLV
Ullam Irangi (Papanasam Sivan) by OST
Vandeham (Annamacharya) by Hyd. Bro.
Varavallbha ramana (GNB) by MLV
Vatapi Ganapathim (Dikshitar) by Chembai,GNB,KJY,MDR,MLV,MMI,MSM,SSI

Music Categories > Carnatic - Instrumental > Ragas H... > Hamsadhwani
has the following tracks,

Gaja vadana (Purandaradasar) by US
Gam Ganapathi (HMB) by US
Mooladara Murthi (Papanasam Sivan) by US
Raghunayaka (Thyagarajar) by MSG
Thayaghi Thandhayaghi (Ramlinga Swami) by Kanyakumari
Vandeham (Annamacharya) by LGJ
Varana mukha (Koteeswara Iyer) by US
Vinayaka Vigna (Veenai Kuppier) by THV
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thanjavur · Post by **thanjavur** » 21 Mar 2007, 20:03

KarNATaka sangItam http://surasa.net/ (Hamsadhwani) links

Dinakara vamsa (K M Saundaryavalli)
by KMS (Contribution - K N Sundaram)
http://surasa.net/cgi-bin/plist.cgi?kms ... nakara.mp3

by Susarla Sivaram (Contribution - K N Sundaram)
http://surasa.net/cgi-bin/plist.cgi?siv ... nakara.mp3

Pagavari (Patnam Subramania Iyer)
by DKP (Contribution - S Hariharan)
http://surasa.net/cgi-bin/plist.cgi?dkp ... gavari.mp3

Vatapi (Dikshitar)
by Dwaram
http://surasa.net/cgi-bin/plist.cgi?dva ... vatapi.mp3

by ESS (Contribution - Syamala Rao Eevani)
http://surasa.net/cgi-bin/plist.cgi?ema ... vatapi.mp3

by NR (Contribution - S Hariharan)
http://surasa.net/cgi-bin/btdload.cgi?f ... vatapi.mp3

by SSI
http://surasa.net/cgi-bin/plist.cgi?ssi ... /vatapi.rm
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divakar · Post by **divakar** » 27 Mar 2007, 13:11

just out of curiosity..

(i) are there some ragams in which RTPs are not done/ not allowed as a rule ?
(ii) has anyone rendered an RTP in hamsadhwani ?

we have RTPs in ragams having five swarams.
can someone through light on this aspect.
thank you

pgaiyar · Post by **pgaiyar** » 27 Mar 2007, 18:09

Dear All:

Anyone has a RTP in Hamsadhwani?. If yes please upload. God bless you all with health and happiness.

Regards

P. G. Aiyar

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 29 Mar 2007, 15:55

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7hk4ur

03-Thayagi-Hamsadhwani

coimbatorerasigan · Post by **coimbatorerasigan** » 01 Apr 2007, 04:30

http://www.badongo.com/file/2627668

RTP-Hamsadhwani-Balamurali Krishna!

rganesh · Post by **rganesh** » 01 Apr 2007, 17:09

What is the name of the raga in Ragamalika swaras (starting at 25:58) in BMK's Hamsadhwani RTP?

vijayagopal · Post by **vijayagopal** » 03 Apr 2007, 14:33

I remeber listening this song Nera mora from a recording of Smt. Rama ravi.
Kindly give me some time.
I perhaps can give the text and the recording too.
One is sure to find it in Brinda amma's collection.
Kindly check!

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 05 Apr 2007, 05:45

rganesh wrote:What is the name of the raga in Ragamalika swaras (starting at 25:58) in BMK's Hamsadhwani RTP?

It is kOsala

-Ramakriya

srinidhi · Post by **srinidhi** » 05 Apr 2007, 12:28

Hamsadhwani as the main piece-

http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1997

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 05 Apr 2007, 19:40

rganesh wrote:What is the name of the raga in Ragamalika swaras (starting at 25:58) in BMK's Hamsadhwani RTP?

Yes it is the 71st sampUrNa mELa- kOsala

SR3G3M2PD2N3S* | S*NDPMGRS ||

Shahana occurs before this. And it is back to hamsadhvani after kOsala.

sankirnam · Post by **sankirnam** » 06 Apr 2007, 01:36

The Rudrapatnam brothers sang an RTP in Hamsadwani at the Music Academy last December, with the words "Lambodara Lakumikara, Ambasutha Amaravinutha", just like TNS's RTP in Malahari.. in fact TNS was sitting in the first row during that concert!

rganesh · Post by **rganesh** » 06 Apr 2007, 02:53

Thanks Ramakriya & DRS

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 06 Apr 2007, 14:35

Dear members , It would be only appropriate to put forth my request to view my composition in Hamsadwani -on Lord ganesha as well as Hamsadwani Sabha rasikas. this one was composed in compliance with the request of the Great TRS, who presented this kriti at the Hamsadwani Sabha .And response by the respected rasikas was overwhelming .This kriti is posted in www.karnatik.com
Ramaraj

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 06 Apr 2007, 22:04

vageyakara wrote:Dear members , It would be only appropriate to put forth my request to view my composition in Hamsadwani -on Lord ganesha as well as Hamsadwani Sabha rasikas. this one was composed in compliance with the request of the Great TRS, who presented this kriti at the Hamsadwani Sabha .And response by the respected rasikas was overwhelming .This kriti is posted in www.karnatik.com
Ramaraj

This URL will take you to the clip in question and a rendition by the composer himself! A very lovely compsition - very clever use of the words 'rasika ranjanA'...
Sri Ramraj, would you call the language just telugu, or a sort of maNipravALa(m) with sanskrit and telugu mixed?

http://www.karnatik.com/c3502.shtml

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 06 Apr 2007, 23:27

Ravi Shankarji Namaskaram,though it is a kriti in telugu.sanskriti padams are adopted for the simple reason of adding colour to the saahityam as is evident in thousands of other telegu kritis of and also tamil krities.The great Papanaasivan has included sanskrit words to several kritis .In the above kriti Telegu padams start emerging from caranam lines .Thank u for ur views.
Ramaraj

kalgada78 · Post by **kalgada78** » 06 Apr 2007, 23:43

Sri Ramaraj,
That was a very nice rendition!!.
Thanks to shankar for the link!

Sarma.

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 23 Apr 2007, 07:22

Hallo friends ,
My contribution in this Ragam "HAMSADWANI RASIKA RANJANA' in glorifying Lord Ganesha and portraying HIS grace in general and
HIS pervasive impact on the rasikas' of HAMSADWANI MUSIC SABHA- Chennai. This was performed by none other than the great
TRS . The kriti was composed in compliance with his request and within a day before the actual concert.He virtually enthralled the audience with his deft handling the kriti
Ramaraj Ref ; www.karnatik.com/c3502.shtml

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 25 Apr 2009, 04:20

Just felt like rambling a bit about Hamsadhwani

http://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2009/04 ... sa-dhwani/

-Ramakriya

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 25 Apr 2009, 05:36

With some many hamsas in the water and quacking, I started getting the smell of fish. Hamsdwani does not smell like fish, whatsoever.

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 25 Apr 2009, 06:20

Nice blog entry, ramakriya. That BMK hamsadhwani is very experimental!
Here's my ultimate favourite (MDR-TNK-VR; vAthApi with R, S):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pov7ik
I have always been fascinated by MDR's hamsadhwani because of the way he ends several of his phrases (especially evident in this alapanai) with a distinctly kEdAram-ish S R,,,, GRS,,,. The first few times I heard this usage I was rather perplexed, but now I love it.

Another favourite (TNK-Viji):
http://sangeethamshare.org/prasad_badar ... dhwani.mp3
A really well developed essay.

knandago2001 · Post by **knandago2001** » 25 Apr 2009, 17:50

Ramakriya: Nice write-up!! Interestingly, Hamsadhwani in HM has an identity that is distinct from Shankara whose origins, however, remain obscure!

Raag Shankara
http://indian-classicalmusic.blogspot.c ... nkara.html
http://www.sawf.org/newedit/edit06252001/musicarts.asp

Smt. Krishna Hanagal singing "kalnaa pare"

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 25 Apr 2009, 19:18

prashant wrote: I'd be very interested to hear a 2-kaLai chaukam krithi in this rAgA.

Try Veena Kuppayyar's song in the KaLahasti pancaratnam - Birana nannu brova.

annapoorne wrote:
Has anybody heard "Nera Mora " a padam in Hamsadhwani?

Neramo rA jAra-cora is a javali attributed to pallavi Doreswamy iyer..

It is sung by Rama Ravi.. There is even a commercial recording..

I am very interested in this composer.. Has anyone else a pATAntara of this song..? Are there renditions by Brinda or her kin..?

vrsh-a · Post by **vrsh-a** » 22 Jun 2009, 09:33

annapoorne wrote:Sri Raghukula of Thyagaraja.

Has anybody heard "Nera Mora " a padam in Hamsadhwani?

I have heard this song....do you know who composed it?

~vrsh-a

vrsh-a · Post by **vrsh-a** » 22 Jun 2009, 09:36

never mind
i just saw the reply above my message

vallaki · Post by **vallaki** » 06 Jul 2009, 20:58

There is a hindustani alap of Hamsadhwani by Kishori amonkar on Music india online that is very very beautiful.Hamsadhwani in a different perspective.

padmini balaram · Post by **padmini balaram** » 03 Aug 2009, 17:58

where can I get basic lessons in raga--swara and alapana.Suggest sites on the net or where I can get cd's /cassettes.Right now want Mayamalava gowls and hamsadhwani.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Aug 2009, 21:29

Ramakriya,
Just got to see your blog! Very nice! Yes, how did such a nice rAgam got the name of a honking bird's sound! I suppose the word hamsa conjures up images of a beautiful and soft feathered bird of the legends to inspire rAgam names like hamsAnandi and hamsa nAdam too!
Rashid Khan's hamsadhwani is delightful. I find his solid delivery of svarams pleasing.When the bandish is rich with imagery as this particular one, the pleasure is more, mainly for CM listeners who are used to krutis with their weight in meaning.
The avarOhaNam in HM is not SRGPNS but SRGPGRSGPNS according to this clip while the avarOhaNam is the same.??
The film song 'jA tujh se nahin bOlUn kanhaiyA' in ParivAr (?) is very similar to this.

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 04 Aug 2009, 06:47

The film song cited above is a marvellous composition of Salil choudry gobilallitha

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Aug 2009, 07:25

Thank you GBL. Wondered who the music director was.

Rasika911 · Post by **Rasika911** » 04 Aug 2009, 11:47

Id love to see non-experimental elaborate hamsadhwani, i know the likes of tmk and j.venketraman have tried it but i have yet to hear one.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 04 Aug 2009, 13:16

sagarnahar · Post by **sagarnahar** » 02 Sep 2009, 12:21

jaa tose nahi bolu kanhaiya .. film Parivar is also based on raag hamsadhwani..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRCGmnDfspo

Ustaad Rashid Khan sahab's composition in Raag Hamsdhwani

lagi lagana pati sakhi sang... http://parulchaandpukhraajka.blogspot.c ... -post.html

i think tum bin jeewan kaisa jeewan- ( manna dey- Bawarchi) is also Hamsadhwani raag song.

hemavathy · Post by **hemavathy** » 06 Sep 2009, 19:35

There r more songs in Hamsadhvani. one of Swathy Thirunal----pahi sripathe which used to be a master piece of Late.Neyathangarai Vasudevan &Karunai seivai gaja raja muka ------ of Papanasam sivan ,& rendered a loy by Late .Sri.D.K. Jayaraman & Smt Nithyasree mahadevan

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 06 Sep 2009, 21:35

The song nera mora jara cora has been performed by Rama Ravi on a 2 CD thematic concert available at Shrishti Carnatica Ltd.
Hyderabad Brothes have also rendered this at the Chicago Tyagaraja Utsavam on May 31, 2004.

pgaiyar · Post by **pgaiyar** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:06

Dear Mr.Lakshman:

Can you please upload the Hyd.Bros.'version of Nera Mora Jara Chora?. God bless you.

Regards

Guru

Rasika911 · Post by **Rasika911** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:34

keerthi wrote:

Try Veena Kuppayyar's song in the KaLahasti pancaratnam - Birana nannu brova.

I searched for it with no luck. Please share it with us if you have a rendition. Even an exerpt would be fine

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 12 Sep 2009, 10:20

No renderings.. there is notation available, if you can read telugu/kannada.. And then, hopefully, you will give us a rendition (even an excerpt would be fine!:) )

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 12 Sep 2009, 16:30

I don't have their rendering. I just posted the information.

vallaki · Post by **vallaki** » 16 Oct 2009, 01:47

ok. Sorry, this may not be relevant , but I just could not resist drawing up the meaning - Hamsa dwani -" swan song"??? the wiki says "The phrase "swan song" is a reference to an ancient belief that the Mute Swan (Cygnus olor) is completely mute during its lifetime until the moment just before it dies, when it sings one beautiful song.[1]
"

vallaki · Post by **vallaki** » 16 Oct 2009, 01:50

For any one in love with this raga, please listen to Kishori Amonkar's rendering of a a tarana (is that an equivalent of our thillana??) in musicindiaonline.com. That is amazing indeed.

vainika · Post by **vainika** » 16 Oct 2009, 19:08

vallaki wrote:For any one in love with this raga, please listen to Kishori Amonkar's rendering of a a tarana (is that an equivalent of our thillana??) in musicindiaonline.com. That is amazing indeed.

Thanks, this is lovely. I thought chatushruti dhaivata featured as an anusvara in some of the N-P descent phrases: did anyone else notice this?