Reethigowla / Ritigowla

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arunk
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Post by arunk »

arunk wrote:Suji - i thought you were asking for the one with D1 (i.e. today's nArirItigowla)? I have heard Nityashree also sing SrI nIOtpala nAyikE in the D1 (nAri)rItigowLa.
There is a version of Nityashree singing nIlOtpalAmbAm in nArirItigowLa on sangeethamshare/sangeethaprita
There is also Sowmya's version in D2 rItigowLa (although labelled as nArirItigowLa)

Arent these guys (sangeethapriya) treading in dangerous waters here? I am sure the latter one is a commercial version! Maybe both :rolleyes: - they need to get things under more control

Arun
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Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

Yes Arun, I know the nIlOtpalanAyikE versions in S priya are with D2.
I heard D1 versions too. It has a nice effect when the kriti starts with N and goes to D1
I like the veena version of KS the best.
The vocal versions helped me get the sahitya into my head ,D1 or not

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Post by arunk »

suji - i was referring to D1 version of the other krithi nIlOtpalAmbAm - in case you were interested in that too

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Post by balusatya »

ramakriya wrote:
Thanks Sripathi & Suji Ram :) BMK's voice is in much better form than in his commercially available recordings of this kriti!

-Ramakriya
Sthitilayadikale in charanam -sung exceeding well! words are more clear with mimimal accompaniment sound/volume.

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Post by shripathi_g »

Suji Ram,

Do you have access to the Veena version of the song?

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Post by Suji Ram »

shripathi_g wrote:Suji Ram,

Do you have access to the Veena version of the song?
will do

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Post by markandeyakavi »

Hello All,

I am new to this forum. Respectful greetings and salutations to all the fine listeners and musicians present.

A close friend (R Narayanan) has recorded his own alap of Reethi Gowla, at home, on a minirecorder. He is a mano dharma singer, not a professional. The recordings were recently converted to MP3 format.

http://auminfinitecosmoses.com/elements/view/951

I request all to kindly listen and offer your knowledgeable comments about it. I am not a very experienced listener, but I did enjoy these. I felt this is an appropriate place to share. The recordings are not the best quality, but perhaps sufficient for an essential listening.

There are also recordings of other ragas, which you will easily find with a few clicks, starting from here:

http://auminfinitecosmoses.com/categories/view/4

If you wish to, you may post your comments on the site itself (I would encourage that), or share them here with me.

Please accept my apologies, if this unexpected request from a total stranger feels rude or too forthcoming.

Sincerely,

Shyam
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Purist
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Post by Purist »

Markandeya wrote:
A close friend (R Narayanan) has recorded his own alap of Reethi Gowla, at home, on a minirecorder. He is a mano dharma singer, not a professional. The recordings were recently converted to MP3 format.

Hearing it .I couldn't believe that such low sruti could be stretched for so long. MDR would have been
stunned if he were to listen.

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Post by Member_First »

Shri Shankara Naryanan, residing in Nanganallur area(Chennai), too sings like MDR. His voice and sruthi are simlar to MDR.
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Post by markandeyakavi »

Thanks immensely, Purist. Narayanan was very happy to hear your comment.

I request you to check Naattai and Thodi too (I know it's off topic, but still)

http://auminfinitecosmoses.com/galleries/view/192

http://auminfinitecosmoses.com/galleries/view/193

All the best to you. Enjoy them!
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Post by svkashyap »

The following are the excerpts from concert reviews posted by rasikas including myself. One peculiar thing I noticed is, hardly anyone rendering nerval or kalpana swaras in ritigaula though it seems to be season's favorite. Is there any reason for this?

Violin Duet: Lalgudi G.J.R. Krishnan & Lalgudi Vijayalakshmi April 17th
3. nannu viDachi - ritigaula - mischra chApu -Tyagaraga (a)

MSG trio - Bangalore - 01 May 2009
5. janani ninnuvina - misra chapu - reetigowlai - subbaraya sastri (alapana)

Sudha Raghunathan- Fort High School Bangalore 3rd May 2009
... a brief sketch of Ritigowla and the oft repeated Nannu Vidachi.

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Post by mohan »

I have heard artistes sing kalpana swarams for Rithigowla. Singing swaras for Tatwamariya tarama is common. GNB has sung swaram for Raga ratnamalika and Paripalayamam. He is supposed to have sung a RTP in this raga too. MLV, Trichur Ramachandran and Sudha sing swaras for Janani at 'tamasamu'

Quite often Rithigowla (or Anandabhairavi) is not taken as a main piece but rather a slow filling item between the sub-main and main.

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Post by MaheshS »

Thanks to Coolji I have the SSI Reethi Gowla. One of my all time favorite concerts. SSI / Lalgudi* in that concert is simply the best :) decent recording too. If it is not in Sangeethapriya I will upload it if someone requires.

* Should have been Coolji / SSI / Lalgudi :) Ask a song / raga / neraval / swaram etc etc rendition to Coolji and he will *NEVER* disappoint.

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Post by rajeshnat »

The greatest reetigowlai neraval and swaras (especially )singer is Prof TRS, you must listen to that brilliant rAga ratna malichakE( N S ) and tatvamariya tharamA (S).

Mods
Can you merge this thread with parent rAga thread please
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... gowla.html

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Post by arunk »

coolkarni wrote: Voleti has sung a 45 minute RTP too in Reethigowla.
can upload if it is not there elsewhere.
Yes please :) !

The GNB RTP I believe was on sangeethapriya.org sometime ago (?) - it isnt a complete one though. There is also a GNB one in Anandabhairavi - superb (bad quality in the beginning, but decent after a while)

I like both MMI's TVS' kalpanaswaras with tatvamaRia. Also SSI's with janani ninnuvina. MDR's slow one with baDalikadhIra.

Arun

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Post by bilahari »

SSI/LGJ's rIthigowLa is on Sangeethapriya. I'll locate it shortly and post the link.

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Post by Always_Evolving »

SSI/LGJ's rIthigowLa is on Sangeethapriya. I'll locate it shortly and post the link
Is the entire concert on s'priya?
And here's one more vote for the voleti to be uploaded.

Thanks

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Post by bilahari »

Here's the SSI rItigowLa:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/we3or0

One of my favourites. My access to Sangeethapriya is very poor these days and there are numerous difficulties in downloading, so I've started uploading the entire SSI-LGJ-TS concert with the famed bhairavi swarajathi. Will update with the link when it's done.

Will try to find other rItigowLas with N/S meanwhile. LGJ has played an excellent dwaithamu in his ranjani-mOhanam RTP concert which I have, but I'm not sure if it's commercial. MDR, of course, breathed life into this ragam.

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Post by bilahari »

LGJ's responses are certainly on the money in this clip (and throughout this concert). The entire concert is here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ovy0w5

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Post by bilahari »

Svkashyap and other rIthigowLa lovers, here are a few more:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/t9mlqa

This .rar file contains:
(1) MDR MSG PR - nannu viDachi (S)
(2) MDR MC - mama hrudayE (S)
(3) MDR LS VR - baDalikadhIra (R,S)
(4) SSI TNK UKS - janani ninnuvina (R,S)

I also accidentally inserted a Santhanam rendition that I thought had kalpanaswaras but does not. But it's still worth a listen!

Intriguingly, in sifting through my MDR collection, I realised that I do not have a single rIthigowLa by MDR withOUT kalpanaswaras! Even if it's just a brief 2-min spurt at the end, he always sings swaras in the ragam.

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Post by srinivasrgvn »

BILAHARI!!
I do not know how to thank you!! Last week, I was very busy listening to MSG's Todi RTP you uploaded. This week, a feast of Reethigowla!! Thanks a lot!! Really nice of you to share your recordings. They are educational and entertaining. Thanks!

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It's my pleasure, srinivasrgvn. In return, may I request a poem about my favourite ragam? :P
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Post by svkashyap »

coolkarniji, bilahari thanks a lot for the downloadables.

My point is during the current season why no artist is venturing into nerval, kalpana swara in ririgaula though they sing/play an elaborate alapana. It is not just one concert or one artist but in 3 concerts 3 different artists as mentioned in my above post. I was just wondering how come all artists would have decided to bestow the same treatment to ritigaula?
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Post by uday_shankar »

I have heard chitravina ravikiran play janani ninuvina on a few occassions and there was neraval and swaraprasthara every time. Will try to dig a sample if I have it.

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Post by prashant »

coolkarni wrote:http://www.mediafire.com/file/zzc0nn2wl ... Voleti.mp3

Voleti at his best - A scintillating AIR Track
Incredible music. Thank you Kji!!!! The second half of the AlApanA is especially awesome...

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Post by svkashyap »

By merging this thread, I think the original intention of my post is lost.

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

svkashyap, it was done at the request of members ( especially rajeshnat ) and it made sense to merge them because this latest round of discussions on kalpanaswaras of rithigowla belongs under the ritigowla topic. You have successfully rekindled interst in the discussion about aspects of this raga. What was the original intention of your post and why do you feel it is lost?

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Post by arunk »

thanks coolji. It is now on my ipod - i have a lo...............ng flight today and I am sure it will come in handy :)

Arun

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:) thanks. To samsung indeed ;) !

Arun

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Post by shripathi_g »

This rendition has one of the best swaraprasatharas for Reethigowla - http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sripathy ... igowla.mp3

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Post by uday_shankar »

Cool
Thanks so much for the voleti clip. That was some awesome ritigaula. What a wonderful musician! See the kind of rAga swaroopa he brought out of it! What a shame he passed on with an alpAyu. I had the privilege of listening to him live a few times and then gawking at him at close quarters after the katcheris - a large, large-hearted and extremely mild-mannered man.

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reetigowlai perhaps I can say with a sure conviction that it is the rAga that you would have heard quite likely without knowing its name for quite few years in your childhood /teen days , you would have internalised it enough in your head even if the medium is not carnatic music concert.

The earliest reetigowlai that I heard was BMK's cinna kannan azhaikiran music of illayarAja, there is another lovely rAman kathai kelungal which illayarAja got a national award for that movie in telugu which was dubbed in thamizh as sippikkul muthu.AR rahman has handled it bit differently in the song azhagAna rakshashiyE in mudhalvan.

BUT one number that stands out so much from all that I have mentioned above is one rare song named thalayai kuniyum thAmaraye from the film Oru Odai nadiyAgirathu , spb and some female singer with illayarAja tuning that, you have to search "thalayai kuniyum" in youtube to get that , felt not appropriate to post it here.

Why this film detour , just to illustrate that this rAga has the lowest barrier for any one to appreciate CM, I would like to call it as "reetigowlai -gateway to carnatic music"

Now coming back to svkashyap as to why neraval and swaras were not sung much , I guess it just got lost in the mega parent kharaharapriya as it is crowded with so many lovely rAgas as siblings . Few singers /songs who have taken reetigowlai all from increasing order of my liking

5. Neyveli sir's reetigowlai especially in the last kutcheri season where he sang neraval for makisEkaran mahaNE in tatvamaria tharamA

4. GuruvayUr appaNE appan by santhAnam which is an ambujam krishna composition.

3. and 2. I can't choose between semmangudi and madurai mani though I feel semmangudi has brought the rAga + krithi charm in an exalted state especially Janani ninuvinA, mmi for his swaras.

1. But one musician who easily beats all of them in reetigowlai is Prof TRS , there is one rAga ratnamALichake where he sings neraval and swarams . I am assuming all of you would have downloaded that.

BUT HEAR THIS SUPER BLISS trs-thatvamariya tharama (R S) - reetigowlai - psivan especially when he cruises from 15:29 seconds bliss what a control in breadth and manodharmam with zero violin return, what a swara kalpana downpour , TRS is indeed a genius, #1 musician in reetigowlai race :) beating all the participants from ariyakudi to rithvik rAjA ;) .

http://www.sendspace.com/file/x7qvnv

Attn svkashyap:
You enjoy the above url , it is always best to post it in the right thread , your question is answered with this tatvamariya tharamA
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Post by mohan »

thought I'd share this short rithigowla with you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFBa3khv ... ure=autofb

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mohan wrote:thought I'd share this short rithigowla with you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFBa3khv ... ure=autofb
Lovely Lovely , mohan .Is that your daughter?

I do know that "reetigowlai is gateway to carnatic music" but definitely for 4 year old , it is a big mega surprise. Does she know that she is ringing reetigowlai(I am assuming not).

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Post by mohan »

Rajesh yes she knows the raga - it's her favourite raga along with Nattai!

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Post by srinivasrgvn »

Oh, mohan. That was one of the most serene rIthigowlais I have ever heard! The child is singing so sweetly. Congrats!
You must be proud to say that you are the father of a DKP-in-making! =)

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Post by arasi »

Mohan,
She is a delight! Enjoys singing her nndm nnsas--and that dwelling on the g!
She has all the musician qualities, including gestures, style and vivacity. She even mixes dance with it--tALam becomes naTTuvAngam! She is a product of both arts, after all...

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Post by rshankar »

Mohan - that was incredibly precious! Thanks for sharing!

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Post by PUNARVASU »

Mohan,
very nice; she is so confident.Our blessings to the little one.

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Post by mohan »

thanks for all the comments - glad you enjoyed it

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