Peerless Rafi

Music that is not orthodox Carnatic or Hindustani.
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rshankar
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arasi
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Ravi, thank you for the peerless Rafi!
I could not open your first link--and who is Raji? I know of a namesake who was called the Mohd Rafi of her college:)
A haunting song, well 'rendered' by Dilip the peerless! The actress's name eludes me. I say actress because obviously she could'nt dance! I see some foot work (stand in's, I presume) and note that the shots of her are mostly waist above and when you do see her full figure, those feet are hidden behind the long skirt!
None other than Ustad Halim Jaffer Khan plays the sitar for Dilip. I have no idea about the sarod and tabla...

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

Arasi,
I have corrected that - it was not Raji, but Rafi!
The link does work for me.

gobilalitha
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Post by gobilalitha »

rshankar, one of rafi's best songs with a classical tinge is Man mora bawra fromthe film raagini. music director, who else? OPNayyar. a temple for him is getting ready!!!. just like a temple for Khushboo at Trichy. thank God such fanaticism has ended gobilalitha

annapoorne
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Post by annapoorne »

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7l3e3m

a very good bhajan of Rafi

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

GBL,

I am a fan of Rafi - singing under ANY music director. I read in a Filmfare issue many years ago that Rafi used to make sure that he got the pronunciation of urdu words correct - he would go to inordinate lengths to ensure proper pronunciation that he would drive some music directors mad with the time he took to prepare, but once he said he was ready, usually the song would be recorded in one, maybe two tries, unlike many others who would be ready to start without much preparation, but would need umpteen tries to get the song right!

Actually, almost all of Rafiji's songs rate as my favorites, but I specially love the one, 'tU hindu banEgA, na musalmAn banEgA, insAn kA aulAd hai, insAn banEgA' - I think the lovely lyrics, pregnant with meaning were penned by Sahir Ludhianvi :)
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arasi
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BhartiyAr would have loved him too. Why do I say that? I recently read that the ultimate favorite of ours, the bard, even at the turn of the 20th century insisted that we should not only learn other languages but should learn how to speak them with the same pronunciation and the intonation of a native speaker. How I wish he were around in these primitive times!
Another feather to Rafi's cap. No wonder it was a delight to hear him sing the words impeccably. And his dedication to his work! His concern for not adding to the expense of the producers by going into endless rerecordings...

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How I wish he were around in these primitive times!
The society would have hounded him out. Thankfully, he is not alive today.
Such valiant sons are born to valiant and strong willed mothers.
Men, by nature are fickle minded. It is the women who safeguard culture and society.
But when women become fickle, society withers away.

arasi,
kindly do not take this as any personal remarks. Should you feel so, I will withdraw my post and beg your pardon.
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arasi
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Not at all, Govindan! If anything, I would take it as a compliment. My children make me proud and I would like to think that I was partly responsible in the process of their becoming what they are today. Decent human beings, above all.
Power to all mothers...

tilt
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Post by tilt »

That is one of my all-time favourite songs, thank you very much for posting the link Ravi!

Cheers

gobilalitha
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Post by gobilalitha »

you may be aware that SanjaySubramanian is a great fan of MohdRafi. he used to sing some of his songs in the company of friends gobilalitha

arasi
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Gobilalitha,
To be friends with him in order to hear him sing beloved Rafi's songs is not for the likes of us, 'gold' card holders. All we can savor is a highly satisfying concert with a serious bhairavi kruti like a Sri dakshiNAmUrtE thrown in :)
By the way, I hear that Sanjay is on an European tour now.
Is his London concert on the 12th or 14th? Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan's website says the former and I heard otherwise. Someone in London wanted to know.
He won't sing Rafi there. It is a CM concert. A bhairavi kruti perhaps...

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Post by gobilalitha »

some say it is worth walking miles to hear his Begada, if we go on walking miles to hear every raaga we will end up like muruga at palani.for not hearing the best of all raagas. there is nothing like best raaga.all are best , if handled by greats like sanjay.let us be wise like Lord Ganesha.. I think every cm singer has hisor her favorite ghazal specialist like Ghulam Ali etc or film singers......gobilalitha

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Post by Sam Swaminathan »

I am a great lover of Rafi....I love every one of his songs, just like Rshankar. The song that is currently doing the rounds in my head to-day is

Kabhi kudh pe

What raga is that song based on?

Sam

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kabhi kudh pe.. Is it rageshwari? gobilalitha

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theabove song also seems to be based on raag malgunji to some extent. t gobilalitha

arasi
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Yes, kabhi khud pE--a beauty.
Another gem: pyAr ke sAgar sE niklI mOti kE badlE rEt
ab pactAyE kyA hOyE, jab ciDiyAn cug gayE khEt!
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Bageswari seems to fit the song, GBL....
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rageswari is only slightly different from bageswari. gobilalitha

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Post by gobilalitha »

today, the song by mohd rafi, going round my mind is (beware Lalitha) 'mujhe tum se mohaabat hai, magar my kahin nahi sakta' in the raag bhoop or bhoop kalyan( mohanam or mohana kalyani,asa SAM may be aware), music by Chitragupt, from the film Bachpan gobilalitha

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rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

Ramji - Oh yes! Lovely song, lovelier voice! Was that a young Rekha?

Thanks for the link.
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Post by ragam-talam »

There's no Rekha in this movie. The two lovely damsels are Mala Sinha and Tanuja.

Rafi saab is peerless indeed. See this great interview:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTNdPlcCF-Y

arasi
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Ah, Tanuja--the sibling of Nutan (Ram Rajya's star Shobhna Samrat's daughters).

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Post by davalangi »

Here is one, where as a Rafi fan, I feel jealous of Lata :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ngciBoBnM

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Post by gobilalitha »

arasi, you have kindled old memories. Ram rajya , a picture starring Shobana samarth as Sita and Prem Adib as Rama, an ideal pair ,seen by Gandhiji and the terrific song BINAMADHURA MADhura in bhimpalasi, later on immortalised by the very great MMIyer as Kandan karunai puriyum vadivel.very pleasnt thoughts for a sunday morning at Singapore gobilalitha

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The film was dubbed, and the song in the tamizh version went something like this: vINaiyin inimaiyE tarum iSai pOL. Of course, they had to fit in words in a fashion so that mouthing of the hindi song wouldn't be too obvious. That way, they compromised a lot and it took away the beauty of the lyrics. The film An is a prime example of that!
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Post by gobilalitha »

well folks, i have often referred to the song,'phir miloge kabhi is raat ka waada, by rafi and asha in the film ye raat phir na aayegi, based on pahadi,marvellous melody by OPNAYYAR, the beauty of the song . it beginsin a sedate note like a tame wave, but the second line in the highest octave as if th sea has su,ddenly become turbulent:"hum se ik aur mulaqat". then asha takes over in her soothing voice as if to control
the sudden spurge of the wave. only rafi could sing so well and only OPN could create such a melody.I doubt if we can get such melodies now or in future.

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Post by ragam-talam »

A beautiful song from Rafi saab:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yReE8e--v2c

And a rare song - Mohd Rafi singing for Kishore Kumar!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rOUw8AnSBPo

arasi
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ragam-talam,thanks!
No dispute here :)
A super duper song, that suhAni rAt! What phasing!

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A lovely clip - private moments with the maestro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YolBVs9aD3I

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Post by raghavt »

I see many people talking about Rafi Saab's gazhals. What about the fast numbers??? "Badan Pe Sitare" from Prince and many similar stuff like that... who can instill the livliness like him.... the way he sings perfectly matches the lyrics....

He is one of the Gods of Indian Film Music....

~ Raghav.

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Post by gobilalitha »

fast numbers byRAFI are plenty. 'dekho kasam se is one such. from film Tumsa nahin dekha music by O P Nayyar.gobilalitha

arasi
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One of my favorites is the slow, viruttam prefaced, not that well known
song: pyAr kA sAgar sE niklI mOti kE badlE rEt, ab pachchtAye kyA hoYE jab ciDiyAn chu gae khET--ek jhUT hai is the song.
Some slow motion songs are memorable--and the poetry in them!

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Post by gobilalitha »

well said ,arasi. more than the fast paced songs, the slower ones had wonderful lyrical contents,especially for composers like NAUSHAD KHAYYAM, MADAN MOHAN to mention a few..gobilalitha

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Post by vmr »

Rafi was one of the most versatile and evergreen playback singers.... my all time best Rafi number is from Mirza ghalib ( 1954) in which he has sung a ghazal of ghalib and on screen is sung by a fakir ...one of the top class songs of his ( Music is by Gulam Mohd) Talat Mohd has sung in this movie for Bharat Bushan who had played ghalib... top class ghazals by Talat also in this movie.......

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Post by Radhika-Rajnarayan »

Rafi is truly peerless. There is so much finely nuanced gamakam in his singing. The subtle variations in tone, from caressing - to teasing, to full-throated- depending on the lyrics - probably this is what made him stand apart from and above the rest.
'Taareef karoon kyaa uski', 'Madhuban mey Radhika', 'Chaudhveen ka chaand' - so many examples! One could go on and on!
I'm a huge fan of Rafi Saab.

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Post by vmr »

Peerless indeed was Rafi. He has sung quite a few songs in Telugu films, more famous for the " Gopala Bala" song in which NTR romances KR Vijaya on screen in the movie " Bale Thamudu" some time in the 60's.

Naushad always used to call him " Janaab Mohd Rafi Saheb". Rafi was also a very humble and simple person, as recollected by most of his friends in the industry.

" Dil ki awaaz bhi sun...mere fasane pe na jaa"

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Post by gobilalitha »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF4zlPE9-bs

while I was lazily and haphazardly tampering with youtube, i got the immensely popular serenade of MOHD RAFI singing and Naushad recording. See the expression in Rafi's face when he sings and Naushad's majestical recording .gobilalitha
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