Web-cast of Jaya TV Marghazhi Mahotsavam

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Sundara Rajan
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Jaya TV commenced its webcast of the program tonight here in the U.S. at 5:50 p.m. Eastern Standard Time for an hour. Jaya TV programs are neither listed correctly nor broadcast on specified times here ! Suspecting this I had my TV turned on to Jaya channel from 5:00 pm on ! To days program was Nadaswaram concert by Thirukovilur Babu & Kumar. The songs presented were:
SiddivinAyakam anisam(?)-- Shanmukapriya
Brochevarevarura-Kamas
Bhuvaneswariya- Mohanakalyani
After the commercial break at this juncture, the sangeetha gnAnasUnyam that editd the program left out the karaharapriya song (?), but left the Thani that followed ending with the last line of the composition.
Kaliyugavaradan-BrindavanasAranga
Kurai onRum illai- Ragamalka

It was announced at the end that tomorrow's program will tbe hat of Malladi Brothers.
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Mahganapathim anisam in shanmugapria?
I have heard siddivinayakam anisam in samaram/shanmukhapria, sri mahaganapathim in gowla and mahaganapathim in natta

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Post by Sundara Rajan »

Thank you, Chalanata, for the correction. Because it was instrumental, I could only guess the words. I wrote mahaganapatim anisam instead of siddivinayakam anisam. I have edited my post accordingly.

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The first concert is by Malladi Brothers broadcast on 16 12 2010 . You can view it at this link. Recorded and uploaded by me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93DLm5hyPHg This is a 40 mts concert with six songs.
I hope to upload daily on the days of broadcast.

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venkatakailasam wrote:The first concert is by Malladi Brothers broadcast on 16 12 2010 . You can view it at this link. Recorded and uploaded by me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93DLm5hyPHg This is a 40 mts concert with six songs.
I hope to upload daily on the days of broadcast.

venkatakailasam
Thanks for uploading.

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venkatakailasam wrote:The first concert is by Malladi Brothers broadcast on 16 12 2010 . You can view it at this link. Recorded and uploaded by me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93DLm5hyPHg This is a 40 mts concert with six songs.
I hope to upload daily on the days of broadcast.

venkatakailasam
Thank you very much.

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Thank you venkatakailasam; this is very thoughtful of you for those of us who are not fortunate to view Jaya TV real time.

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Thanks VK, We saw your upload and then the Jaya TV transmissio too. Nice concert.

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Disappointing performance by Malladi brothers. Too much "gas" in the explanations. They were rattling sanskrit slokas to sound "profound" when the same content can be found in the simplest of translations. There was so much unprofessionalism in the concert. The younger was sipping water/coffee even before the first song had ended. They were referring to the notes for songs like "Manasa yetulo" and "Dudukugala." I thought these telegus would atleast know such popular Tyagaraja kritis by heart. A real shame! The elder brother was actually flipping through the pages of a diary after the commencement of "Manasa guruguha" searching for the lyrics! Finally there was an alapana of Bageshwari for about 5 minutes followed by a slokam in the same raga with the same phrases rendered again! Maybe they were emphasising the dual nature of life or the singing of each sangati twice in a kriti :)

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Bageshri was quite effective!

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The theme was supposed to be "tatvam". In my opinion, the theme was not clearly enunciated and the compositions chosen did not tie in with the theme. From a musical standpoint, energy, synchronization and coordination was missing between the brothers. They were frequently referring to their notes. I felt they were simply not engaged in the concert. A very lackadaisical performance from the brothers. I expected more from them. :(

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Yes to all. I expected a better program from them. There was a silly question trying to relate the theme "thathvam"( concept ) with the mahA vAkya " thath thvam asi " . The brothers' answer was wanting in correct explanation. I was pleasantly surprised that the brothers have learned a new Tamil song ! Theirs was the second broadcast: a nagaswaram performance was broadcast the previous day.

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The link to Smt Nityashree Mahadevan 's Concert of 17-12-2010 -JayaTV MMU 2010:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KNmphYJ914

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To ask a musician to explain Tatvam Asi or advaitha concept is like asking for the recipe of badir bheni or bisi bela holi to a table waiter or expecting a bookshop salesperson to explain cardiac arrythmyas or principles of rocket propulsion. It is the fundamental mistake of the organizers of Margazhi mahothsav.It is unfortunate that the musicians are made the scapegoat with sheepish look. in public gaze.They could not do justice to their own art and they are not to blame.poor Malladi bros.!!

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Dear Venkatakailasam

Thanks a lot for your efforts.

Subramanian

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Ponbhairavi
You are quite right! Musicians (present day) are not trained in philosophy. In olden times they had to learn vedas and upanishads along with music and had gurus who were themselves great scholars. The present day practitioners are too shallow and many do not even know the meaning of what they sing! (poor language skills). Of course they are good in musical skills through assiduous practice, which is all what the Rasikas can expect from them!

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Good work venkatakailasam! Excellent recordings! Keep it up..
Many thanks to E-Swara...

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Wait, how are the Margazhi organisers to blame? It is my understanding that musicians choose the theme of their own presentation. They could've chosen a theme they were more comfortable with. I, too, found the program less than satisfying.

Thank you, vkailasam, for your efforts in bringing us these concerts.

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Mr.Vekatakailasam,
Your are doing an admirable job to upload the JayaTV margazhi maha utsav concerts so promptly in Rasikas.org. Our family now in U.S far away is proud to view the concerts regularly and immediately in the 'suda suda form' as we used to enjoy it in India, and thanks for all your efforts.

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The link to Shri Abhisheik Raguram's concert is provided below: Held on 18-12-2010 Jaya TV MMU 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUiDcsDwWVc

Courtesy JAYA TV:
O manasa arabhi
Krishnam kalaya sahi Raga Muhari
Meera Bajan Raga Deepali
Azimazai Kanna Thirupavai
Santana GopalaKrishnam Upasmahe-Khamas
krishna nee bharho-yamuna kalyan

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Hari guN gAvat - a class act by abhshek

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Very inspired singing by Abhishek! My first time listening to him and I was very impressed! It was a nice touch to alternate the mridangam and tabla for the sadinchane sahityam and swara pieces. The tabla accompaniment for Mukhari did not gel well in my opinion. However for the Mira bhajan (Hari guna Gavat) and the last piece Krishna Nee Begane Baro, Anand's accompaniment was apt for Abhishek's singing.

I know Abhishek is Sri Palghat Raghu's grandson. Is by any chance Anand also Sri Palghat Raghu's grandson?

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Thanks
Excellent spirited concert! The youth are doing a good job of proomoting CM..
Though short the swara prasthaaram in the tharangam is spell-binding - literally musical waves!
Congrats to Abhishek and his team...

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Kamas raga alapana had some sprinkle of anniya swara notes sounding a little bit like hamir kalyani. Abishek! you are a great artist! Please excercise some restraint.

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'E'-SWARA-004-Neyveli Shri. Santhana Gopalan-Jaya TV MMU 20-12-2010.flv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoUM9r4WcTQ

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chalanata wrote:Kamas raga alapana had some sprinkle of anniya swara notes sounding a little bit like hamir kalyani.
Can you please point out the time slice where this is happening? Want to listen more carefully.

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Ponbhairavi wrote:To ask a musician to explain Tatvam Asi or advaitha concept is like asking for the recipe of badir bheni or bisi bela holi to a table waiter or expecting a bookshop salesperson to explain cardiac arrythmyas or principles of rocket propulsion. It is the fundamental mistake of the organizers of Margazhi mahothsav.It is unfortunate that the musicians are made the scapegoat with sheepish look. in public gaze.They could not do justice to their own art and they are not to blame.poor Malladi bros.!!
Excellent. I have the same idea but could not have expressed half as well. Just ask the singers to sing well. Do not make them scholars or worse still rishis. Everyone will be satisfied.

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cmlover wrote: Musicians (present day) are not trained in philosophy. In olden times they had to learn vedas and upanishads along with music and had gurus who were themselves great scholars.
Beg you specify three such gurus and/or shishyas of the type you mention, who are also as proficient in music as today's vidwans. May be it was long long ago- so long ago..... It is more in our imagination.

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nadhasudha wrote: I know Abhishek is Sri Palghat Raghu's grandson. Is by any chance Anand also Sri Palghat Raghu's grandson?
Likely since they are first cousins and both play percussion.

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When the rishis used to live in cute little huts and the river was flowing in the back yard and the golden deer were dancing on the porch... Surely you have seen A.P.Nagarajan movies :-)

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Likely since they are first cousins and both play percussion.
You are correct sureshvv. Anand Ananthakrishnan is another grandson of Sri Palghat Raghu.

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kssr wrote: Beg you specify three such gurus and/or shishyas of the type you mention, who are also as proficient in music as today's vidwans. May be it was long long ago- so long ago..... It is more in our imagination.
1) Poochi Srinivasa Iyengar
2) MVI
3) CVB
4) Mysore Vasudevachar

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Thanks Venkatakailasam--Great service to those of us less fortunate to be present!!!

Chalanata--Agree with your comment on the need for restraint--then I say to myself when I listened to GNSir or Manakkal Rangarajan in the forties doing those fast brigas and generally keeping up the tempo I was struck by their briliance--I guess with age all of us yearn for some sedate,serene music--Abhishek --a smart man with the Lalgudi/Raghu lineage will also mature and slow down!!!( Abhishek is Lalgudi Sir's sister's grandson)--I have my own grievance against the media whenever Abhishek is mentioned--the Lalgudi lineage is seldom mentioned--almost conspiratorial!!! Granted he has inherited his Grandfather's Laya prowess,his Gnanam comes undoubtedly from the Lalgudi lineage!!
I hope sparks do not fly from all sides on my comment!! I do not wish to stir the pot--the cauldron is already boiling!! I do not want to add to it!!!

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'E'-SWARA-004-Priya sisters-Jaya TV MMU 21-12-2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BT1RTrl_08



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govinda damodara madhaveti - good northern Indian style recitation of Bilwamangalam, patterned after Pt. Jasraj. Priya Sisters always exemplify in their renditions. Thanks venkatakailasam.

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Reg Chalanata's observation on Abhishek Raghuram's Khamas alapana, I may say that there was only a very slight tilt towards Yaman kalyani rather than Hamir kalayani but it was for too miniscule of time duration that did not diminish his excellent rendering of Khamas alapana. This talented youngster is bound to rise to further and greater heights but also needs to cultivate restraints considering that he is quite young , the appearance of MMI's calm and pleasing demanour in every concert can be a guiding example to emulate.

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Priya sisters with their emotion laden bhajans , slokams and stotrams brought copious tears to the devoted audience. Initially they started with just OS Arun's bhajans but now the 'bhajana pantha' seems to have percolated to the entire series. The essence of CM is its manodharma. With no ragam, neraval or swaram we can rename the series as MMU of devotional music and people interested in real CM can move on to kacheris or at least listening to some good cassettes/ CDs.

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cmlover wrote:
1) Poochi Srinivasa Iyengar
2) MVI
3) CVB
4) Mysore Vasudevachar
Thanks and of course other great composers Thyagaraja, MD and so on. They are remembered today as great composers because of their knowledge of music and thathvam-philosophy. But a normal musician cannot and need not automatically qualify to be a specialist in both these very different departments- both then and now.

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unlike the Trinity, for the present day musicians CM is a business enterprise!
Many of the old-time gurus (even some now e.g., BMK) never charged a fee for teaching music. Times have changed and CM is now part of the entertainment industry. Musicians should be treated on a par with Sports players or Movie Actors. One cannot expect them to be a spiritual Guru!

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Listen To shri Vijay Shiva at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMXHPP-Xibk

E'-SWARA-006-Shri Vijay Siva-MMU 22-12-2010

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cmlover wrote:unlike the Trinity, for the present day musicians CM is a business enterprise!
Many of the old-time gurus (even some now e.g., BMK) never charged a fee for teaching music. Times have changed and CM is now part of the entertainment industry. Musicians should be treated on a par with Sports players or Movie Actors. One cannot expect them to be a spiritual Guru!
Not sure what profession you are in or what you charge but urge you to compare it with the practice in the Trinity period and see how you fare. I am sure CM has withstood the ravages of the modern industrial era (or kali yuga) in a much more palatable form compared to most other fields of human endeavor.

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kapali wrote:Reg Chalanata's observation on Abhishek Raghuram's Khamas alapana, I may say that there was only a very slight tilt towards Yaman kalyani rather than Hamir kalayani but it was for too miniscule of time duration that did not diminish his excellent rendering of Khamas alapana.
You must mean at around 25:30 into the recording where there is an asymptotic touching. Just enough to make sure we were not sleeping thru' it :-) He kind of apologizes for this immediately with a long breathless sancharam covering the entire scale.

Call me nuts, but a tangential touch to varali might have been interesting too!

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'E'-SWARA- 007-Smt. Ranjani - Smt. Gayathri-Jaya TV MMU 23-12-2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3blW1yDzwWc

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Compared to the strings of bhajanais in the MMU series this year, Ranjani Gayathri's presentation, was a good carnatic music concert. Also, their performance has improved a lot over time. This was much better compared to my earlier experiences. Wish them the very best.

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Unnikrishnan's concert.

I heard the concert this evening. Listening to him after a long time, I could once again objectively view it. He is in my opinion forming a new "baani"- ie. a new unprecedented style. Second criterion for a new baani maker should be that he should be popular. Obviously Unni has a huuuuuuuuge following. There is sruti suddham. Soft pleasant voice. Not too sure about the technical suddham. Specialists should comment. The uniqueness comes from the way the sound comes out- just like that out of a sugarcane juice extractor. Through a small gap, squeezed and flattened out. On earlier occasions he would permit himself to open his mouth upto 10 mm. This year he successfully achieved < 6 mm. It was about Hari and Haran. It looked like there was a bend towards Haran, except for one of the final pieces (sindhubhairavi?) where the second half was changed to Hari item from Purandaradasa.
Very interesting- even pleasant for sometime. Cannot manage for too long, just similar to HM.
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eppa varuvaro - melodiously rendered by Ranjani Gayathri. Soothing to ears with shuddha shruti.

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E'-SWARA-008-P unni krishnan-Jaya TV MMU 25-12-2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9eJ2La2mYs unni krishnan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WERIywTcXag unni krishnan


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBcDBv2ngN8
'E'-SWARA-009-Smt.S Soumya-Jaya TV MMU 25-12-2010


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Today's Sowmya's concert is the model others can follow in MMU. This is of course as per my taste. Others may differ. She balanced the content of the concert to suit the "title" selected. Kaalam or Time. Brief description as to how she sees the song fits the title. Then a traditional set of songs from Varnam, 2 Thyagaraja kritis, a few tamil songs, brief swaram and neraval where ever necessary, gentle humour, generally smiling creating a warm friendly atmosphere with Kannan, Narayanan and the audience. On top of it all, very good music.

A bit surprised about Poorvikalyani and Pantuvarali thrown in the same basket. But her singing was so perfect that there was no confusion in our minds. Very satisfactory indeed. The questions asked during the programme seems to be more with an intention of showing off rather than trying to get a genuine doubt clarified or to know something specific about the artists or their music. Proper questions should be selected in order to make it educative with regard to music.

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