Veena seshanna compositions

pvr246 · Post by **pvr246** » 16 Jun 2008, 13:42

Hi every one
I have opened this thread know whether any one is having composition of veena seshanna
one of the astana vindwans of mysore.
he is famous for his swarajatis and tillanas on jinjoti raga
I think his decendents have printed a book on his compositions
does anyone have idea abt the book

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 16 Jun 2008, 14:25

His Swarajathi in Kharaharapriya is also nice.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 16 Jun 2008, 21:01

pvr246 wrote:he is famous for his swarajatis and tillanas on jinjoti raga

Is he famous for ShenjuruTTi thillAnA or jinjoti thillAnA . I am assuming the famous thillAnA "thiranA thom ta thiranA" by veena seshannA is in shenjuruTTi

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 16 Jun 2008, 22:07

There is a book of compositions of Vina Seshanna published in 1965 by Sangeetha Kalabhivardhini Sabha of Mysore. Editors: B.K.Padmanabha Rao and H.Yoganarasimham.

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 17 Jun 2008, 07:09

rajeshnat wrote:
pvr246 wrote:he is famous for his swarajatis and tillanas on jinjoti raga
Is he famous for ShenjuruTTi thillAnA or jinjoti thillAnA . I am assuming the famous thillAnA "thiranA thom ta thiranA" by veena seshannA is in shenjuruTTi

Yes,rajeshnat. That famous thillana is by Sri Veene Sheshanna.

pvr246 · Post by **pvr246** » 17 Jun 2008, 09:50

yes rajeshnat its that tillana.
He is very famous for his usage of jinjoti. Many of his compositions are in jinjoti.
the swarajati ma. ma ga ri sa ni da pa. pa da sa ri. ga is a composition of seshanna in jinjoti
The swarajati in kamach , hamsanandi, kamboji are my favourites.
i learned them from his grandson vina Vyasa rao

Lakshman Thank you for the information i will try to get a copy for myself.
by the way do u have any idea where can i get the book??
Thanks a lot

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 17 Jun 2008, 13:28

Lakshman Thank you for the information i will try to get a copy for myself.
by the way do u have any idea where can i get the book??
Thanks a lot

Is the book still available? Does anyone have the contact info for the Kalabhivardhani Sabha of Mysore? Please do share it. I know Smt MS Sheela has released an album on Veena Seshanna compositions. He is the Shishya of Mysore sadAShiva rAu.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 17 Jun 2008, 21:22

pvr246,
My point about the thillAnA is ,the rAgam is in shenjuruTTI and not jinjOti as both are different rAgAs.

sramaswamy · Post by **sramaswamy** » 17 Jun 2008, 21:58

See this topic

http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=996

But at the end of that topic, I am as confused as I was at the beginning. But I am going to say that, Jhinjoti as is called in Karnataka is same as Senjurutti in Tamil Nadu, when applied to Carnatic Music. I have no idea of Hindustani Jhinjoti

Over to the experts

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 17 Jun 2008, 22:01

rajeshnat wrote:pvr246,
My point about the thillAnA is ,the rAgam is in shenjuruTTI and not jinjOti as both are different rAgAs.

This depends on the space and time of reference IMO..

In Karnataka, the name jhanjhUTi is normally used, whether there is anyaswara prayOga or not. From my experience, in Tamil nadu, chenchurutti is the version without anya swaras, and jhanjhUTi to the version with anya swaras.

I believe the intention of the composer was not to use anya swaras in this tillAna.

-Ramakriya

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 17 Jun 2008, 22:02

ha ha

I see sramaswamy and I wrote the same thing at the same time!

sramaswamy · Post by **sramaswamy** » 17 Jun 2008, 22:06

Great men "write" alike

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 17 Jun 2008, 22:07

ramakriya wrote:From my experience, in Tamil nadu, chenchurutti is the version without anya swaras, and jhanjhUTi to the version with anya swaras.

Not 100% sure but I do think there are (tamil) songs in cencurutti which use anya swaras (e.g. SrI cakra rAja).

Arun

pvr246 · Post by **pvr246** » 18 Jun 2008, 13:04

rajeshnat,
i really dont know about the name shenjuruTTI. i thought that its the tamil name for jinjoti. but the jinjhoti am talking about is
nishada antya raaga
arohana pa da sa ri ga ma pa da ni..
avarohana ni da pa ma ga ri sa ni da pa da sa
da - chatu shruti
ri - chatushruti
ga- antara
ma- shudha
ni- kaakali

sampaths · Post by **sampaths** » 12 Jul 2008, 19:21

Can anyone post the lyrics of Veena Seshanna's shAradE varadE ? Thanks in advance.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 12 Jul 2008, 22:08

shAradE varadE. rAgA: kalyANi. rUpaka tALA.

P: shAradE varadE sAride baride kEl nI
A: kOridava manObhISTavannu salisuve kEL nI
C1: pArugANadiruva ninnapAra mahime pogaLalaLve
pArumADi kAye shirava bAgi dhanyarAgiruvevu
2: vINI vINA pustakapANi brahmana rANi lAlise
SONiyoLage ninage sarikANene pravINe jANe
3: surararu nararu kinnararu kimpuruSarellA
haruSadinda smarisi ninna caraNa kamalakeragiruvevu
4: vidyA dAyaki sakala vidyadabhimAni nInu
sAdhyavAgi bhaktarige suvidyA buddhi nIDe tAye
5: shESa dAsanAdenna dOSagaLanu tyajisi bEga
pOSisamma nammanellA shESajanara mAte khyAte

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 14 Jul 2008, 03:37

There is a nice CD titled Veeneya Bedagu - compositions of Veene Sheshanna produced by by Vara Enterprises Bangalore.
Mysore V Subramanya, Veene Sheshanna's great-grandson has co-ordinated the production of this CD, wherein Vidushi Rajalakshmi Thirunarayanan has rendered Sheshanna compositions.

In the volume 2 that I have, there are eight compositions including two swarajatis, one varna, two keerthanas (in ganamurthi and an elaborate rishabhapriya), and three thillanas.

There are some contact phone numbers on the CD cover - I can send an email with that info. if any one is interested.

There must be a volume 1 of this series. I could get only volume 2 in a store in Bangalore about two years back.

sampaths · Post by **sampaths** » 14 Jul 2008, 09:52

Lakshman,

Cannot thank you enough for the response ! We (my wife, Subha, and I) were specifically looking for the charana with the mudra in it, as it was missing in the version of the lyrics with us.

Sreeni, please do post the contact details on the CD cover.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 07 May 2009, 02:14

Sreeni Rajarao:
In the CD vol 2 that you have is the varNA in bEgaDA?

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 07 May 2009, 06:39

Lakshmanji,

Ref post # 19:
No, the varNa is nIrajAkshi in sAvEri rAga.

pvr246,
Ref post # 6:

please write more info. about Sri. vINa vyAsa rao.
I did not know Veene Sheshanna had any other grandchildren besides Swaramurthy Venkatanarayana Rao (V N Rao).

Sreeni Rajarao

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 07 May 2009, 07:02

Did a search on the composer and got some interesting results.

Some information about the great-grandson of vINA ShEshaNNA: http://www.kutcheribuzz.com/news/200608 ... ananya.asp

About the album(s):
http://thatskannada.oneindia.in/news/20 ... veene.html

http://www.thehindu.com/mp/2009/02/23/s ... 230300.htm

There is also another album produced by Hamsadhwani by MS Sheela under the "Vaggeya Vaibhava" series: http://www.mssheela.com/hamsadhwani/audio_nxt.html

Sreeni Sir: Could you forward by e-mail to me the details of the CD? Thank you!

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 07 May 2009, 07:15

Kmrasika sir!
Please see the thread under Album Reviews - there is a thread on compositions of Veene Sheshanna and post #1 gives the address and phone # to reach Vara Enterprises who have produced the veeneya bedagu series of CDs.

Sreeni

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 07 May 2009, 17:15

Lakshman sir,

CD #9 has the Begada varna.. It has been sung by R.K.Srikantan..

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 01 Sep 2011, 01:13

The tillAna in junjOti is quite popular as discussed here :

(post # 18)
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic. ... 75#p205075

I hope this will generate some good discussion on tillAna-s of Mysore vaiNika-s.

I would like to present others, such as the ones in kApi, durbAri kAnaDa, bEhAg

I will start with the following :

Veena Kinhal performing tillAna in kApi :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHYvAaBAgGg

Doreswami Iyengar performing Sheshanna's tillAna-s

tillAna in kApi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtDC2J1Qwjs

tillAna in durbAri kAnaDa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XwnH5k4PBM

tillAna in bEhAg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPqUmTCm ... re=related

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 01 Sep 2011, 03:36

Sreeni - thanks. I love the behAg one in particular.

braindrain · Post by **braindrain** » 01 Sep 2011, 10:21

Sreeni,

In a Lec-Dem last year at Gayana Samaja ( Veenaya Bedagu 25th jul 2010) on Veena Seshanna's compositions, Vid D.Balakrishna, introduced some of his thillanas , there were few rare and interesting ones. The one in Sankarabharanam, one in thODi and kEdAram were very good. Have you come across any vocal rendition of these ? The thODi one especially was very good. He was explaining that this thillana has phrases which are 'gamaka-mukta' ( plain notes).

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 01 Sep 2011, 16:28

Jayan,

No, I have not come across any vocal versions of the tillAna-s that you mention. That is my lament here. We don't hear much of Veene Sheshanna's compositions.

I am hoping there might be some vocal recordings ( R K Srikantan?). And, I am hoping that this thread will generate some interest and bring out such hidden treasures!

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 02 Sep 2011, 04:49

Veena Kinhal performs Veena Sheshanna's tillAna in bEhAg

nA di ri di ri tOm ta di ra nA

A recording from a concert in Montreal, Canada (February 1991)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAvE18rMOog

Sreeni Rajarao

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 02 Sep 2011, 17:07

Veena Sheshanna's tillAna in junjOTi rAga is quite well recognised.

Presenting Veena Kinhal's performance of the same:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmQuhKtMAYg

Sreeni Rajarao

ranjanimalavi · Post by **ranjanimalavi** » 03 Sep 2011, 19:35

In Amrithavarshini FM 100.1 they aired a program spanning 3-4 weeks of all compositions of Veena seshanna, a couple of months back.
Never got to record it. But it was a very good program. Artists who participated were R. K. Srikantan, M. S. Sheela ...

Raman

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 03 Sep 2011, 19:48

Raman,
Good to know about the program from Bangalore radio station's Amritavarshini channel.

I hope someone has recorded this program and will share with us!

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 07 Sep 2011, 07:17

That was a nice rendering Sreeni .

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