Swathi Thirunal

Carnatic composers (other than performing vidwans)
kriasshnan
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Post by kriasshnan »

Where can I find the lyrics for most Swathi thirunal's Compositions. The website musicalnirvana.com is down for some unknown reason.

Does any other website provide the lyrics?

meena
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Post by meena »

Yes, ur right, i can access the site but the lyrics page is taking forever to open.

If u have 1or 2 ST requests then we can help u with the lyrics.

bala747
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Post by bala747 »

TKG has released a book on most ST compositions. IT's a worthwhile investment if you are living in India or have someone you know who can send it to you.

It is published by the Ganamandhir trust. Red book with yellow sides. Printing is quite good. IT's part of his series of books on Thyagaraja, MD, Syama Sastri compositions.

Umesh
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Post by Umesh »

So I realize this thread has been inactive for awhile but I have a query I did not know where else to post (and didn't feel like it warranted a whole new topic)... so... yea...

There is a famous jathiswaram in ragamalikai/m.chapu known to dancers. It is a composition of the Thanjavur quartette... or so I thought, until I heard this:

http://www.swathithirunal.in/htmlfile/265.htm

and here is the jathiswaram:

rtsp://gls-nt3.library.wisc.edu/music/anderson401/g2/e49g-2.rm

so is this a swarajathi by the Maharaja or a jathiswaram by the T-quartette. I suppose it's a jathiswaram in both cases since the site says the sahitya was most probably written by someone else.

I know Vadivelu was a musician/composer in the Maharaja's court... could this be some explanation for a mixup?

arunk
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Post by arunk »

umesh,

a lot of TQ compositions were originally attributed to ST. They were musicians at ST court and it perhaps was not uncommon for such folks to not take credit for their work in those days - particularly when the King was such a huge patron of the music.

Of course this became a huge controversy sometime ago with Veena Balachandar claiming ST never composed etc. etc.

In any case, TQ did compose a lot of compositions that were/are attributed to ST.

Arun

Umesh
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Post by Umesh »

Thanks for clearing that up, Arun.

Ramaprasad
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Post by Ramaprasad »

Most of you might already have seen this. Anyway, it appears that the Swathi Thirunal site is back and functioning. Here it is:

http://www.swathithirunal.in/

Ramaprasad

meena
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Post by meena »

Deleted, changed my mind.
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mohan
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Post by mohan »

Only after reading http://www.swathithirunal.in/miscellanios.htm did I find out that Swati Tirunal's Dhansri tillana was tuned by Lalgudi Jayaraman.

A number of popular Swati Tirunal krithis have been tuned by Semmangudi including Deva Deva (Mayamalavagowla), Pankaja lochana (Kalyani), Bhavayami raghuramam (ragamalika), Bhujanasayino (Yadukulakambhoji).

I am sure there are many more. Is a list available? Has Lalgudi tuned any others?

[Moderators, you may wish to move the last few posts from the 15th Feb concert thread to this one]

MaheshS
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Post by MaheshS »

One krithi that comes to mind is Serve Srikantham sung in Mohana Kalyani. The raga wasn't "invented" during the times of ST. Probably Muttaiah Bagavathar tuned it in Mohana Kalyani. May HMB whilst his time as the principal of ST college tuned a few krithis.

vgvindan
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Post by vgvindan »

Comprehensive information about Swati Tirunal is contained in - http://www.swathithirunal.in/index.htm

ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya »

MaheshS wrote:One krithi that comes to mind is Serve Srikantham sung in Mohana Kalyani. The raga wasn't "invented" during the times of ST. Probably Muttaiah Bagavathar tuned it in Mohana Kalyani. May HMB whilst his time as the principal of ST college tuned a few krithis.
Looking at the info on this website - a possible interpretation is that the manuscripts had the name mOhana kalyANi, and HMB actually gave life and shapte to the name.

tulaja's sangIta sArAmRta talks about a rAga called mOhana kayANi - so it is quite possible ST had tried composing in it.

-Ramakriya

meena
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ajith
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Post by ajith »

I was lucky enought to read the book by SRI R.P.Raja .."New lights on Swati Thirunal"

-Ajith

meena
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rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

meena wrote:from ST work ajAmiLOpAkhyAnam- a bhajan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9602J0Ua0M
An example of the singer using a book!

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

THANKS, Meena!

meena
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Post by meena »

shankar
ur welcome.

Its a 'rare ST kriti' so i guess one can use his/her notes? ;)

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Ravi,
At least, it is just one book--looks like his own handwritten diary sort of book--not a library of books:)

meena
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Post by meena »

arasi
which artist-s carries a lib. of books? :D

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paeye6Ze ... ed&search=

Does anyone know who set this composition to music?

arasi
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Post by arasi »

He did, perhaps...

ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya »

rshankar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paeye6Ze ... ed&search=

Does anyone know who set this composition to music?
My mother sings this in kalyANa vasanta, don't know the source of that maTTu though..

-Ramakriya

arasi
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Post by arasi »

ramakriya, You mean, tune :)

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

arasi wrote:He did, perhaps...
Who is the 'he'? The Prince or the maharAjA?

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Ravi,
The prince...

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

Umesh wrote:
There is a famous jathiswaram in ragamalikai/m.chapu known to dancers. It is a composition of the Thanjavur quartette... or so I thought, until I heard this:

http://www.swathithirunal.in/htmlfile/265.htm
The jatisvaram in question is in the book "Tha Tanjore Quartette" by K.P.Kittappa & K.P.Sivanandam.
I think many of the tanjai nAlvar's compositions are attributed to ST.

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rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

In a book written by Smt. Mrinalini Sarabhai (Darpana Publication) on bharatanATyam, she mentions that Sri Swati Tirunal composed in hindi, malayalam, telugu, tamizh and marAThi.

Can we have examples of his compositions in tamizh and marAThi?

keerthi
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Post by keerthi »

Vidya Raja wrote:Hi,

I want the recording of the kriti "Pahi tarakshupuralaya" in raga Jaganmohini - Adi - Swati Tirunal.

swathitirunal.org, has the lyrics in malayalam and also no mp3 is available. Please help
look at the following url - it gives a charsur release where Smt. parassala ponnammal has sung the song you want.. You can buy either the CD or the song alone..

http://www.charsur.com/charsur/index.ph ... ts_id=2710

keerthi
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Post by keerthi »

rshankar wrote:In a book written by Smt. Mrinalini Sarabhai (Darpana Publication) on bharatanATyam, she mentions that Sri Swati Tirunal composed in hindi, malayalam, telugu, tamizh and marAThi.

Can we have examples of his compositions in tamizh and marAThi?

In compilations of ST's songs, are included songs composed by scholars he patronised; and some of these may have been in TamiL and marAThi..

1. TKGovinda rao's book gives a TamiL varNaM - sAmi unnaiyE nAn migacvum nambinEnE.. couldn't find any marAthi..

ragam-talam
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Post by ragam-talam »

A 4-part documentary on ST is now available at youtube:
Part 1/4 ; Part 2/4 ; Part 3/4 ; Part 4/4
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ksrimech
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Post by ksrimech »

R-T: The first link takes us to Pandit Jasraj's Bhairav.

Here is a link to the Part1: http://www.youtube.com/user/Musique4eve ... RTJT_Pfq3w

ragam-talam
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Post by ragam-talam »

sorry about that... corrected.

ksrimech
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Post by ksrimech »

Thanks R-T

vidya
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Post by vidya »

MuhanaprasAntyaprAsa vyavastha is a sanskrta work on prosody attributed to Swati Tirunal.
It deals with the alankaras of muhana, prasa and antyaprasa in musical compositions in sanskrta.The examples that are cited in this work are from the compositions of mArgadarshi seShayyangar (introduced in the first paragraph as 'Sesha ramanuja kavi). And this work also provides us a source to validate and identify some of seShayyangar's compositions.

Thanks to Dr.P.P.Narayanaswami for making this work available. (A translation effort is underway and will be made available soon)

http://guruguha.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... muhana.pdf

mannari
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Post by mannari »

dear madams and sirs, I think T K Govinda Rao's "Compositions of Maharaja Swathi Thirunal " is an authority and contains almost all the compositions of the genius in detail written in the language of that particular composition, Engilish and in Sanskrit

charuraghavan
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Post by charuraghavan »

Hi Folks,
Could somebody please enlighten me about the Hindustani compositions of this prince among poets?

Regards,
Charu

abhiadya
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Post by abhiadya »

Hi,

I am looking for mamavasada janani in kanada ragam with notations, any help in this regard would be of great help. If available in any book, please let me know the book name.

Ananth

mohan
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Post by mohan »

abhiadya - T K Govinda Rao's book "Compositions of Maharaja Swathi Thirunal" has notation for most of Swati Tirunal's compositions

USrasika
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Post by USrasika »

Dear all,
Does anyone have the lyrics to "Ambhoja Nabha"?
Thanks!
Hari.

mohan
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Post by mohan »

USrasika wrote: Does anyone have the lyrics to "Ambhoja Nabha"?
Lyrics courtesy of Sri Lakshman Ragde:

ambhOjamAbha. rAgA: bhairavi. tripuTa tALA.

P: ambhOjanAbha mAm pAlaya satatam ambhOjAlayAjAnE
A: jambhavairi vandita jalaja lOla lOcana kumbha sambhava vinuta kuntIsuta sArathE
C1: bhujanga shayana hari krSNa bhujanga vairiratha gOpi
bhujanga bhAma sangaranga bhujangavara kAliyadamana
bhujanga lOka vAsinuta bhujanga varada dEva dEva
bhujanga bhUSaNa sannuta lIla bhujanga rUpa sankarSaNa
2: lOla lOla vanamAla nIla surabhilavAla
lAlasita nija jAla pAlitasura vairi jAla
bAla sUrya sama cEla bAlagOpa dhrtashaila
pAlita gO gOpAla jAla jita shishupAla


Dr BMK has retuned this in kharaharapriya rAga, misra capu tAla. You can find his version on youtube.

USrasika
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Post by USrasika »

Thanks! Yes, I was there in thiruvananthapuram for it!

USrasika
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Post by USrasika »

though i remember it being longer (more lyrics) when I heard it...

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

There is a cararNa missing here (which I added later):

nanda nanda vibhO mucukundAnandakara sunanandanaya nija lIlA
manda nIla vAsudEva kundasuma surucira mandahAsa virAjita
mandaradhara gOvinda sundara shubhAnE

venkatakailasam
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Post by venkatakailasam »

SwaATi TirunAL krtimAla-1947- compiled by Semmengudi Srinivasa Iyer with a forward by Sir CP Ramaswamy Iyer...PDF file.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/1hzm5scdb ... -1947-.pdf

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