1)Kaapi & Hindusthani Kaapi 2) Kaanada & Durbari Kaanada

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vs_manjunath
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Post by vs_manjunath »

Kindly describe the differences between
1 ) Kapi & Hindusthani Kapi
Jagadhodhrana as sung by MSS & KVN, is it in Hindusthani Kapi ??

2) Kaanada & Durbari Kaanada

Thanks in advance

kmrasika
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Post by kmrasika »

I have always wondered about the existence of the different kApis. I think jagadhOddhAraNa is in hindusthAni kApi (from foreign influence) . There is also karnATaka kApi, in which the grand sUmasAyaka/sarasAlanu varNams are composed, and miShrakApi, in which tungA tIra virAjam of kamalESha is rendered (thought the yaman kalyANi version is in vogue today).

The kApi I know has the prayOga s r m p n S S n d n p m g r s.
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vs_manjunath
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Post by vs_manjunath »

Thanks for this info.

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Post by vs_manjunath »

kmrasika wrote:There is also karnATaka kApi, in which the grand sUmasAyaka/sarasAlanu varNams are composed
By the by, who is the composer of this varnam ?
KVN used to sing this varnam excellently.

The song venkatAchalapthe, a Manipravalam by Dikshitar is also mentioned to have been composed in karnAtaka kApi.

MMI has sung this, but it sounds like kAnada ?

Can rasikas comment on this ?

mohan
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Post by mohan »

Sumasayaka is attributed to Swati Tirunal maharaja.

prashant
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Post by prashant »

Isn't tungA tIra virAjam in sALaga bhairavi?

gdg
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Post by gdg »

I've heard tunga tira virajyam in chalaka bhairavi only.

sridevi
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Post by sridevi »

Sri. Maharajapuram Santhanam sings the pallavi and first charanam in Salaga Bhairavi. the second charanam he has sung it in ahirbhairavi.( Mangala kara mantralaya vaasam... )

Sridevi

Vocalist
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Post by Vocalist »

I think I have heard one in Yamankalyani...

kssuresh
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Post by kssuresh »

Flute Shashank has a beautiful elaborate Karnataka Kapi piece "enta soukya" in one of his commercial releases.

ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya »

kssuresh,

I am sure Shashank plays inta soukhya in hindUstAni kApi..

-Ramakriya

mohan
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Post by mohan »

Shashank also plays sUmasAyaka (Karnataka Kapi) - maybe that was the confusion. Thyagaraja's Inta Soukyamu is in the usual (Hindustani) Kapi.

kssuresh
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Post by kssuresh »

Dear Mr. Mohan and Ramakriya,

You both are right. I meant to say Hindustani Kafi. Sorry I goofed up.

thathwamasi
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Post by thathwamasi »

there is a concert of Flute Mali accompanied by TNK and Mani Iyer. In that, Mali plays a splendid Sukhi Evaro in Kaanada and then during swaram he goes into darbari Kanada...as in..he alternates both..by playing both the dhaivathams on and off...it was such a wonderful experience. And off late I have started believing that Kanada can have both the dhaivatams..you can blame my admiration for Mali and Illayaraja..In the movie sindhu bhairavi, there is this song "poomalai vaangi vandhar" which is based on Kanada. However in the charanam, Raaja uses the both the dhaiwatams..So i couldn't help trusting the genius of both these men..
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Nandy
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Post by Nandy »

adityamohan,

As from what I have learnt, Tungatheeravirajyam has been taught in Kapi, now which kapi is the question. Probable Mishra Kapi as kmrasika put it.

Nandy

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