Jayanthasri

S.Balasubramanian. · Post by **S.Balasubramanian.** » 20 Aug 2007, 10:01

* Shall we start this thread by analysing the following aspects?
*What are the kritis available in this raga other than-Marukelara-Thyagaraja,Neeradasama neelakrishna ..-OVK&one by Mysore Vasudevachar(heard OST in Chennai Air today).
*Recordings on the kritis-Link may be given.
*What is the difference/Similiarity between Jayantasri &Hindolam?
*Has anyone elaborarted this in RNS(Raga,Neraval,Swaram)?
*Or why is not taken for elaborate treatment?

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 20 Aug 2007, 10:20

Diff b/w Jayanthasri and Hindolam - there is no panchamam in the latter.

Elaborate treatments - the only one I can think of is a TNS concert at Rasika Ranjani Sabha (IIRC, the last concert in that hall). He took it up as a sub-main - not sure there was a neraval...

Swaras for Marugelara are fairly common but alaapanas are not...as to why not, that's anybody's guess....IMO there is enough to distinguish it from Hindolam to sustain a 4-5 minute alaapana at least. The effect when Hindolamish phrases merge into the panchmama is quite haunting (courtesy TNS)...I'd frankly love to see more of this raga.

bhaktha · Post by **bhaktha** » 20 Aug 2007, 19:55

Yes...I have heard Shri TNS render Marugelara in style, with alapanai, and swaram. It was a nice 7 min alapanai at RR sabha (nice sabha, now in ruins

) The kriti that Shri OST sang was probably Shridhara pahi, a composition of Shri Vasudevachar.
I have a question to ask in this regard. Whenever artistes render popular ragams, one never feels that the artiste is bordering on other allied rare ragams....For eg. when an artiste renders kalyani, does somebody ever wonder if he/she is singing phrases from, say, citrambari? But take the converse: when some artiste attempts an alapanai in citrambari, one would probably say" Oh! It was no different from kalyani."
Even if we were to consider this case, does anybody wonder if one's hearing jayanthasree while listening to hindolam. If not, why?
-bhaktha

S.Balasubramanian. · Post by **S.Balasubramanian.** » 20 Aug 2007, 20:16

Thank you both Vijay&Bhaktha.

sbala · Post by **sbala** » 20 Aug 2007, 20:47

Bhakta,
When you watch Glenn Mcgrath bowl, you are in awe of him and you don't make any comparisons. But when Avishkar Salvi comes along, we immediately make comparisions with Mcgrath. However, there are certain ragas that might end up big over time. Like how Courtney Walsh emerged from the shadows of Michael Holding and how Mohammad Asif might (from the shadows of Mcgrath) if he gets his act together

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 20 Aug 2007, 22:16

good analogy

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cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 20 Aug 2007, 22:52

Very nice topic! I have always been fascinated by this raga and have wondered why it is not more popular! Prof SRJ states that Thyagaraj indeed breathed life into this through his magnificent composition. MD didn't touch it.

Arun
What is the historical background on this raga?

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 21 Aug 2007, 00:10

cmlover,

It is mentioned in sangrahacUDAmaNi (1750-1800), although there are 2 earlier references to it

1. In a north indian work hRdayaprakASa by hRdayakautuka (1667), but one which deems in sampURNa (i.e. aro/avaro combined):
2. rAgalakshaNamu by SahAji (1684-1711) which assigns it to harikAmbhOji meLa (!) and also includes ri (sa ri ga ma pa da ni pa da sa Sa ni dha pa ma ri sa).

I believe both must be referring to different raga(s).

sangrahacUDAmaNi (and others) assign it to naThabhairavi mELa, and with vakra avarOhaNa (s n d m p m g s).

Reference: rAgalakshaNasangraha by Hema Ramanathan

Arun

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 21 Aug 2007, 00:11

Here is a 30sec vintage aalaapana by MMI
http://www.mediafire.com/?2jddglxljid

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 21 Aug 2007, 00:28

How about a detailed marugElarA (with alapana) from an esteemed member of the cm performing community as well as this forum

?

Check out this concert: http://www.sangeethapriya.org//Downloads/ns/ns2.html

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 21 Aug 2007, 00:34

MLV has also rendered a detailed alapana in one of the comm. cd

S.Balasubramanian. · Post by **S.Balasubramanian.** » 21 Aug 2007, 08:11

MLV's rendering comes first to my mind when I think of this raga.

matterwaves · Post by **matterwaves** » 24 Aug 2007, 18:27

Is the kriti chandrashekaram sadaa bhajeham in Jayantisri?I guess its a composition of GNB.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 24 Aug 2007, 18:48

candrashEkharam sadA bhajEham shAmbavi is by Dikshitar in mArgahindOLa.
candrashEkharam sadA bhajEham shAntasva is by Kadalur Subramaniam in riSabhapriyA.

S.Balasubramanian. · Post by **S.Balasubramanian.** » 29 Aug 2007, 20:20

One more composition-Sriharapahi-Courtesy-Vaggeyakaras-T.M.Thyagarajan-unable to download-http://quickdump.com/files/455643125

v_sudarshans · Post by **v_sudarshans** » 25 Dec 2007, 11:36

Thank you arun...really i was looking for Marugelara detailed since months...finally i got it. thank you...please send me some more if u have. i will be grateful to you.