Illayaraja

Carnatic composers (other than performing vidwans)
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#1 Illayaraja

Post by rajeshnat » 18 Oct 2018, 18:31

Where can we place this isaignani illayaraja something much more than vidwan and vidushi but let me take him as vaggeyakkara as after sadguru Thyagaraja , dikshitar and there is illayaraja. I feel like writing all that i know for pages and pages as I have followed, talked and discussed right from as early as my age 7 to 10 when I just knew about him(that is early 80's) to slow and steady accumulation of missed and refreshed past thru YouTube. Of course there are million like me who can do the same.

See the love for music and he paying obesiance to navarathri,particularly he advising the one and only super star prodigy mandolin srinivas in 1980 , just read this lovely writeup of him in The Hindu dated Oct 18th,2018.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/ch ... 253337.ece

Being navarathri and saraswati pooja today let us just start with one of his 8000 to 10000 wonders appropriate for Devi .

Janani Janaani - yamunakalyani :) - from the film Thai Mookambigai
God of Music sung this song in his own voice, penned by vaali(of koovi azhaithal - valaci fame :) )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJJIt8j ... JJIt8jh1Uc
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#2 Re: Illayaraja

Post by CRama » 18 Oct 2018, 21:35

Rajesh, I have sent you some of the photos of the concert held in Ilayarajas' house through whatsapp. Pl see.
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#3 Re: Illayaraja

Post by rajeshnat » 18 Oct 2018, 22:11

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God Of Music just entering rasikas.org on Navarathri -2018. Warm welcome isaignani
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#4 Re: Illayaraja

Post by rshankar » 18 Oct 2018, 22:23

rajeshnat wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:31
Where can we place this isaignani illayaraja something much more than vidwan and vidushi but let me take him as vaggeyakkara as after sadguru Thyagaraja , dikshitar and there is illayaraja.
I am going to let that pass, but when you look at the definition of the word vAggEyakAra - it means someone who wrote the lyrics and set them to music themselves. Has Sri Ilayaraja done that? I know he has set lyrics to immortal tunes, but has he written the lyrics and set them to music?
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#5 Re: Illayaraja

Post by rajeshnat » 19 Oct 2018, 21:37

rshankar wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 22:23
rajeshnat wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:31
Where can we place this isaignani illayaraja something much more than vidwan and vidushi but let me take him as vaggeyakkara as after sadguru Thyagaraja , dikshitar and there is illayaraja.
I am going to let that pass, but when you look at the definition of the word vAggEyakAra - it means someone who wrote the lyrics and set them to music themselves. Has Sri Ilayaraja done that? I know he has set lyrics to immortal tunes, but has he written the lyrics and set them to music?
Ravi
1. In early days for the first 5 to 7 years 1976 to 1982 timeframe quite a few numbers were written by him and reused for films for many years later.

2. Post 2000 many movies he was a lyricist , but the truth of the matter his tunes were not that catchy as in 76 to 94.

3. Check the song samayal paadame ,(hear the whole tune you have a ragamaliga from kalyani to vasantha )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os6vPMZlGu0

4. On a devotional album by name gitanjali he wrote a lovely song kamakshi karunavilasini,atleast this number has the possibility of he writing lyrics first and then tuning later exactly answering your query as an investigative journalist if you ever get the kicking drift. :lol:
https://gaana.com/song/kamakshi-karuna-vilasini-4
This kamakshi karuna number with lyrics is brilliant and is very divine. I am pretty sure you love more than me with ur extra focus for lyrics

5.By the way the so called pureplay vaggeyakkaras like GKB,Papanasam Sivan, Trinities(T SS and MD)etc did not have to worry about musical interludes. Only two dimensions lyrics and melody possibly with ofcourse bhakthi. But Illayaraja had to worry atleast few more dimensions like orchestration , interludes ,humming , visual situation.

6.When I talked with Madurai Gold Standard Mani (Madurai GS mani) in our rasikas meet at nageswaran house when TRS maama was there, he was mentioning chumma illa pA music director unlike vaggeyakkaras he said just imagine KV mahadevan, illayaraja from just words in a paper, he even gave an example of a song from that first set of words they create music.

Enjoy your navarathri with atleast kamakshi karuna vilasini
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#6 Re: Illayaraja

Post by CRama » 20 Oct 2018, 16:11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVVbXy ... HVVbXyevuM

Another samayal song from Unnal Mudiyum thampi. Music Ilayaraja. many common usages between both the songs- iin lyrics and ragams too- Kalyani, Vasantha . Both hilarious songs.
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#7 Re: Illayaraja

Post by CRama » 20 Oct 2018, 16:17

Kamakshi karuna vilasini- Thanks for giving the link. Never knew about this song. Good. However, I will rate Ilayaraja the singer much below Ilayaraja- the composer - remembering a few songs that he has sung in films that I have heard.
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#8 Re: Illayaraja

Post by CRama » 20 Oct 2018, 16:20

Rajesh, Surprised with your usage of GOLD STANDARD for Madurai G.S.Mani. :D
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#9 Re: Illayaraja

Post by rajeshnat » 20 Oct 2018, 16:32

Crama
Is there a photograph that you took with illayaraja sir. hope you are not modest in not passing that to me.
Illayaraja the singer is indeed not as great as singers SPB(another God of Music for me) or KJY. On kAmakshi karuna vilasini raga check ganeshkant and narayanan , that guy narayanan was once active in creating crossword then went out of forum , illaryaraja is a perennial creator. He was at minimum excellent or at maximum outstanding.

viewtopic.php?t=9832
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#10 Re: Illayaraja

Post by rajeshnat » 20 Oct 2018, 16:38

All
In general if you have time just go into youtube search Madhura Sudha (ID) whose name is Tesla Ganesh. He is extraordinary in taking ragas ,backgrounds of illayaraja songs, thamizh marabu isai influence of raja sir, he keeps it with a dash of carnatic aarohana and avarohana raga explanation and then goes into different songs . Tesla ganesh also hears carnatic music , i dont know him yet but one friend of mine outside of forum knows him a lot and I think our lalitharam knows him too.

This person Tesla Ganesh has segmented each raga like keeravani, Suddhadhanyasi and atleast 20 + ragas here. See his contribution on his extraordinary contextual explanation without getting carried away to the next topic.

To start with Illayaraja and keeravani are inseperable .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOOeCLF5tP8
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#11 Re: Illayaraja

Post by CRama » 22 Oct 2018, 21:30

rajesh, I never took a photo with Ilayaraja. There was a big rush for photos and I did notpush myself. IN fact the group photo of Ilayaraja with all artistes and Sivaramakrishnan is taken by me.
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#12 Re: Illayaraja

Post by sagar » 28 Oct 2018, 20:01

Dear Sir

Appreciate if you can send me the lyrics and notations for Janani janani in english ? my email ID is [email protected]

Thanks
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#13 Re: Illayaraja

Post by rajeshnat » 10 Nov 2018, 07:24

rshankar wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 22:23
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Has Sri Ilayaraja done that? I know he has set lyrics to immortal tunes, but has he written the lyrics and set them to music?
rajeshnat wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:31
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3. Check the song samayal paadame ,(hear the whole tune you have a ragamaliga from kalyani to vasantha )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os6vPMZlGu0

4. On a devotional album by name gitanjali he wrote a lovely song kamakshi karunavilasini,atleast this number has the possibility of he writing lyrics first and then tuning later exactly answering your query as an investigative journalist if you ever get the kicking drift. :lol:
https://gaana.com/song/kamakshi-karuna-vilasini-4
This kamakshi karuna number with lyrics is brilliant and is very divine. I am pretty sure you love more than me with ur extra focus for lyrics
Ravi
It just stuck me just today that illayaraja has written lovely lyrics and also composed a great song from the film idhayakovil. The song Idhayam oru kovil has two versions , one sung by illayraja and another by SPB, i love the later.

Personally those years 1985 /1986 was very special and this movie is one of a kind with all songs being great, i think it is the second movie of manirathnam-illayaraja in thamizh, more bigger hits are coming bit later after this

Here is the lyrics wirtten by illayaraja of that great song .It may pass muster with your liking of lyrics
http://www.tamilpaa.com/1253-idhayam-or ... ngs-lyrics

AND
Here is the song sung by another God of Music Sripathy PandithArthyula Balasubrahmanyam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMAD7FTo8JA

See in this song there is a line where illayaraja has written the absolute truth, if I was musician i will take this line and sing as a neraval.
RAma nAmam meethilE nAda thyagarAjarum ... avar paadalil jeeevan athuvE avarAnAr
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