Jayachamaraja Odeyar (Mysore Maharajah) - Part II

Carnatic composers (other than performing vidwans)
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Suji Ram
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#1201

Post by Suji Ram » 26 Jan 2007, 01:33

rshankar wrote:cAmalikE cAmuMDike somakulajatEjA
jaya cAmarArAjEndra sunAma namudadE ||3||
Thanks Ravi
small correction- cAmAlike
cAmarAjEndra sunAmanamudaDE
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Post by rshankar » 26 Jan 2007, 01:34

Raja Chandra wrote:http://www.rogepost.com/n/2515271602

I hope the above introduction though in kannada is easy to follow for others also. If any one desires some of us will chip in with translation.
RC,
The introduction is as lyrical as any of the Maharaja's compositions! Beautiful!

BTW, are the waDiyArs/oDeyArs from the chandrakula? I assumed they were from the sUryakula...but here, the maharAja is refered to as the luminous descendant of the sOmakula!
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Post by jayaram » 26 Jan 2007, 02:32

http://choti-moo-confessions-of-a-bigmo ... ns-in.html
"there was no temple dedicated to the Lord Krishna to whose vamsa, the Yadu vamsa, the Wodeyar dynasty traces its decent"
And we are told that Krishna is the lord of Chandravamsa (just as Rama belongs to Suryavamsa) - thus the Wodeyars do have their links to sOmakula.
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Post by cmlover » 26 Jan 2007, 02:36

RC
Thanks. I second Shankar. The talk is as sweet as music. No need for a translation!

Now let us have a second round of the divine music. Also don't hold out on related historical details. Let us do some time travel.

And of course the related pictures of the Raginis that you have not posted yet (with the sanskrit shlOkas)!
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Post by rshankar » 26 Jan 2007, 10:10

jayaram wrote:And we are told that Krishna is the lord of Chandravamsa (just as Rama belongs to Suryavamsa)
Interesting that kriSnA was born into the kula of sItA in the previous yuga!

When hanumAn describes the 'trailOkaya griha dampatI' this is how he starts to describe them alternately:

ayOdhya pura nEtAram
mithilA pura nAyikAm
rAghavAnAm alankAram
vaidEhAnAm alankriyA
raghUnAm kuladIpam cha
nimInAm kuladIpikAm
sUrya vamSa samudbhUtam
sOma vamSa samudbhavAm
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Post by Raja Chandra » 26 Jan 2007, 14:07

rshankar wrote:Too bad they sang only one of the 3 sparkling charaNas that you had originally posted!
ravi, Last part of the charNa is always modified to incoporate the name of the King like chamaraja - krishna raja or jaya chamaraja .

Fuller version of the Anthem ( with King Krishna raja's name) can be d/l ( it is not as good as the AIR version) :

http://www.rogepost.com/n/3621823435

Wadiyar/Wodeyar/oDeyar claim their ancestory to Krishna.

As the folklore goes two young yadu princes from Dwaraka known as Yaduraya and Krishna were on a visit Yadugiri (Melkote) on a pilgrimage. Later they visited mysore and were staying in the kalabhiarva Temple (today, this is a small shrine next to someswara temple on the eastern side of the Myosre Palace fort) near the huge lake(dodda kere - which no longer exists). They came to know that the local king had recently died leaving his wife and daughter under the clutches of his army chief. Mara-Nayaka. On divine ordain of goddess chamundewari and a jungama they are said to have rescued the damsel in distress and the kingdom! Yaduraya married the young princess and was crowned as the new King. Thus chivalry and romanticism marked the beginning of Wodeyar dynasty which was founded in 1399.
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Post by rshankar » 26 Jan 2007, 17:33

Very nice! Thanks RC for that tidbit.
(On another note, Smt. Vyjayantimala Bali's paternal grandmother was called Yadugiri Devi/Ammal...wonder if she hailed from that part of Karnataka!)
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Post by ksrimech » 26 Jan 2007, 23:12

rshankarji,

mahAlakSmI thAyAr at mElkotE temple or tirunArAyaNapuram or yAdavAdri or yadugiri is called yadugiri nAcciyAr. A lot of iyengar ladies in tamizh nADu, Andhra pradES, karnATakA have been given the same name. But in Vyjayanthimala Bali and her grandmother's case, IIRC they are from mAnDyA, near maisUrU.
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Post by ramakriya » 26 Jan 2007, 23:48

yadugiri, AKA mELukOTe, is in manDya disrtict of karnATaka. It is to here Ramanujacharya fled from Srirangam, and took refuge, and spent several years.

-Ramakriya
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Post by Raja Chandra » 27 Jan 2007, 00:38

Vaishnava Reformer Ramanujacharya fled from the persecution of the chola king early in the 12th century and took up residence at Melkote- Melukote- yadugiri and lived there for 14 years. It thus become the chief seat of Sri Vaishnava sect and reaped the benefit of the conversion by their apostle of the Hoysala King Biiti Deva - later known as Vishnuvardhana, in obtaining assignment of all the fertile tracts of the land in the neighborhood especially of the Ashta Gram on either side of Cauvery

Even today Iyengar’s from here are better known as Mandyam Iyengar’s. In the 17th century Iyengars faced persecution by Tipu and over 700 families are said to have been killed by him as Pradhan Tirumalaiyengar and his brother were in the forefront of saving of the ancient Wadiyar family from his clutches.

Read:

http://www.india-forum.com/articles/152 ... -&-kids%3F

Tirumaliengar family later settled in Chennai (even then known as chennai patna). (NDTV News anchor Sreenivasan Jain hails from this family - from the mother’s side). May be Vyjayanti Mala’s family were among the many who left Mandya - Melkote and settled in Chennai. (Even Jayalalita is a Mandyam Iyengar).

Vyjayanti Mala's mother, Vasundhara Devi was also an accomplished dancer and a Film Personality. During 1938 when Yuvaraja ( father of JCRW) visited Chennai for the Music Academy’s inauguration, Vasundhara Devi performed on stage and caught his attention and later she went along with her husband and young Vyjayanti on the last European Tour of the Yuvaraja in 1939. Yuvaraja always took a whole entourage of Musicians and dancers on his tour and entertained his guests with concerts and performance from his artists. Veena Venkatagiriyappa had to write many a compositions in Western notations to help them. On this fateful tour Yuvaraja was also accompanied for the first time by his wife, daughters and JCRW and his wife Satyaprema Kumari. Vasundhara Devi and even young Vyjayanti are supposed to have performed before the Pope on this tour. But as the World war broke out most of them had to return on a chartered flight. But Yuvaraja stayed on in Hague and returned much later and died at Anchorage (next to Taj Hotel) at Bombay.
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Post by rshankar » 27 Jan 2007, 00:47

RC,
You are veritable treasure trove of information on Mysore/Karnataka history!
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Post by Raja Chandra » 28 Jan 2007, 23:57

Thank you Ravi -but not quite true !

Continuing with where i left:

Anent to the European Tour above mentioned, JCRW - hardly 20, newly married and without any inkling of the double tragedy which was going to befall on the family and the thought of shouldering the yoke of responsibility of ruling the state - was contemplating seriously of becoming a concert pianist ! During this tour he met Sergei Vasilievich Rachmaninoff - a Russian composer, pianist, and conductor, one of the last great champions of the Romantic style of European classical music and was readily accepted by him as a pupil ! But it was not to be and the rest as they say is History.
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Post by Raja Chandra » 29 Jan 2007, 00:00

Image

||atha mahAgaNapatidhyAnaM - mudgalapurANE||

hastIMdrAnanamiMducUDamaruNacCAyaM trinEtraM rasAdAshliShTaM priyayA sapadmakarayA svAMkasthayA saMtataM|
bIjApUragadEkShukArmukalasaccakrAbjapAshOtphalavrIhyagrasvaviShANaratnakalashAn hastair^vahaMtaM bhajE ||
- raktavarNaH

mahArAja shrI jaya chAmarAja oDeyara kRutigaLa shuddhasAhitya

kRuti : 1

|| shree mahA gaNapatiM bhajEhaM ||

rAga: aThANa (29 neya mELakarta dhIrashaMkarAbharaNadalli janya)
tALa: AditALa.

A: sa ri2 ma1 pa da2 ni3 sa
ava: sa ni3 da2 pa ma1 ga3 s ri2 sa

|| pallavi ||

|| shreemahAgaNapatiM bhajEhaM ||
|| shivAtmajaM ShaNmukhAgrajaM||

||anupallavi||

|| siddagaNasEvitaM vighnanAshakaM||
|| shIghravara prasAdadAyakaM ||
|| sadayaM kapila munivaradAyakaM||
|| gurusEvAsaktaM hEraMbaM ||shrI||

||charaNa - 1||

|| j~JAnamudrAlaMkRutaM moolAdhAranivAsinaM ||shrI||

||charaNa - 2||

||gajAraNyavAsinaM jyOtirmayaM upaniShatsAraM||
||paMchabhootAtmakaM siMdhoorapriyaM paMchamAtaMgamuKaM ||shrI||

|| charaNa - 3||

|| kAmEshanayanaahlAdakaM nAgaliMgavaraputraM ||
|| shreevidyA citprabhAnaMda rAjayOgIMdravaMditaM ||

...............ciTTe svra.......||shrI||


First composition of the composer .Composed on Aug 17, 1945

You can d/l :

http://www.rogepost.com/n/7098035703
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Post by meena » 29 Jan 2007, 00:23

RC

Can u pl. check the rogepost link.
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Post by Raja Chandra » 29 Jan 2007, 00:35

Meena,

i have u/l again and corrected the link . Pl check again. thanks
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Post by meena » 29 Jan 2007, 00:47

Works, thanks
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Post by cmlover » 29 Jan 2007, 00:52

Great RC!
Do continue to post the pictures along with the kritis. What year was this picture?

What happened to the ciTTa svara?
Do you have access to the notes of these compositions prepared by JC himself? Can they be released?
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Post by meena » 29 Jan 2007, 01:52

What happened to the ciTTa svara?
ciTTasvara:
S, Snpdnpmp g,-mrs |r,, s rs, r, -m, -p, -n ||
SnSR, -MRS nRSn, S-d, |nS,, -R nS d,, pmp-g,-mpn ||
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Post by drshrikaanth » 29 Jan 2007, 02:31

Raja Chandra-avare
Welcome back to this thread after a long hiatus. God to see a renewed interest.
A request- when you post uploads, could you give a link to the earlier discussion on the kRti by myself and others. I would like others (And myself) to read the previous discussions again. Also, the lyrics are already posted, so can avoid repeating the same. Of course do keep your anecdotes and any new info coming, be it about the kRti itself or about oDeyar and his circumstances. Thanks for understanding.

For the athANa kRti. Here is the link for the lyrics (post 845) and previous discussion

http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=145&p=34
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Post by kmrasika » 29 Jan 2007, 08:35

Raja Chandra: Thank you so much for rejuvenating the thread with posts of the krithis. Love to hear them while following the discussions. On the subject of this first krithi of the mahArAjA, since it is mentioned in the sAhitya, does this krithi specifically refer to the diety at gajAraNyam? Also, I have heard a a different wording of the anupallavi: Shr.tajana sEvitam. Is this also acceptable?
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Post by cmlover » 29 Jan 2007, 11:19

Thanks meena

Good idea DRS, it is nice to revisit the old stuff in context. Besides we have the meaning for the kritis there.
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Post by ramakriya » 29 Jan 2007, 23:11

Added this kriti to the wiki page (generated by arunk's editor)

http://www.rasikas.org/wiki/sri-mahaganapatim-bhajeham


-Ramakriya
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Post by Suji Ram » 29 Jan 2007, 23:42

ramakriya wrote:Added this kriti to the wiki page (generated by arunk's editor)

http://www.rasikas.org/wiki/sri-mahaganapatim-bhajeham


-Ramakriya
That' very nice . We could add the meaning of the kriti at the end given by DRS- in English offcourse.
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Post by cmlover » 30 Jan 2007, 00:12

ramakriya
Nice work! But I thought it was the accomplishment of Baraha! Rc could explain the potential of Baraha.
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Post by ramakriya » 30 Jan 2007, 00:25

cmlover,

you can do it with baraha too. Earlier, I had created a few wiki pages with baraha as well. But that involves more steps.

I should definitely give credit to our Arunk is that his utility can handle multiple scripts more easily than baraha can - with no changes in transliteration :) (as for as I have seen) since it's intention is to read/write the lyrics in one language in multiple scripts.

As an experienced baraha user*, I can say that baraha is a very useful editor meant for native readers/writers in a specific language. Baraha kannada users 'know' that the word candra has an anuswAra written in kannaDa, and intentionally transliterate it as caMdra; Similarly baraha tamil users will write the word kATru as kARRu. So, with these language specific transliteration schemes, which are not 100% compatible with each other always, a user may have to make some edits when he wants the text appear in a different script other than it's native language.

-Ramakriya

p.s: For an example of how we use baraha for our annual magazines here at Kannada Koota of Northern California, take a look at the following link.
http://www.kknc.org/?goto=about_magazine

This was the 2005 issue of Swarnasethu. Your's truly was the chief editor for the magzine in year 2006 - This issue has not made its way on the web yet :cool:
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