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sridhar_ranga
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Post by sridhar_ranga »

Ravi,

AraNangu means woman/ lady. So #4 should refer to the draupadi mAna samrakshnam episode. It does not appear related to vEdas being rescued from the deluge. (probably you must have connected it to vEda reading it as ARangam instead of AraNangu)

kmrasika
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sridhar_rang wrote:Ravi,

AraNangu means woman/ lady. So #4 should refer to the draupadi mAna samrakshnam episode. It does not appear related to vEdas being rescued from the deluge. (probably you must have connected it to vEda reading it as ARangam instead of AraNangu)
Yes, AraNangu here means woman. She uses this word in her tAlATTu song in kuRinji as well (aNNal rAmacandiranuDan AraNangu sItA).

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Post by rshankar »

Sridhar, KMR thanks...I will correct the meaning appropriately...I tried to extrapolate the meaning from the word AraNan which means brahmA, aka vEdan etc. etc. etc...
Last edited by rshankar on 22 Jan 2010, 19:51, edited 1 time in total.

arasi
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kmrasika,
aNNal rAmachandranuDan AraNangu sItai is an Unjal song--a scene from sITA rAma kalyANam. tAlATTu comes later-with the arrival of lava kuSA :)

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arasi wrote:kmrasika,
aNNal rAmachandranuDan AraNangu sItai is an Unjal song--a scene from sITA rAma kalyANam. tAlATTu comes later-with the arrival of lava kuSA :)
Do you know the starting words of the tAlATTu song?

arasi
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kmrasika,
I'm sorry--I was only kidding! However, there is a beautiful tAlATTu song of hers in a rAgamAlikA. dEvaki tan kulakkozhundAi kuvalayattil avadarittAi. One of my favorite songs of hers. If Lakshman does not have it (!), I will post it (from memory).

vtheepan
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Post by vtheepan »

Hi,
Appreciate if anyone could post the lyrics for the song given below.

Song : Gati Niye Endru Kandridum
Raga : Thodi
Composer : Ambujam Krishna

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Theepan

Lakshman
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dEvaki tan kula. rAgamAlikA. rUpaka tALA.

(rAgA: Anandabhairavi)
1. dEvaki tan kulak-kozhundAi kuvalayattil avatarittAi kAvalgaLaindu mIri gOkulattai shenraDaindAi
pAvai nallAL yashOdai magizh bAlakanAi vaLarndavanE mUvulagilum mudalvanE mukundanE tAlElO
(rAga: vasantA)
2: pEyorutti pAlUTTa uyiruNDAi avaL shAya mAya mighu sakaTanTantanai mALa anru nI udaittAi
AyaruDan kUDi onrAi vEinkuzhalai Udi shenru AvinangaL mEitta enran accutanE tAlElO
(rAgA: AbhEri)
3: uriyil veNNai tayirumuNDu uralinilE kaTTuNDu maramiraNDiDaiyE shenru maNIkUparkkaruL tandu
miraTTi ninra tAi kANat-tiranda pavazha vAyil aNDam IrEzhum kATTi ninra innamudE tAlElO
(rAgA: mAyAmALavagauLa)
4: Odi varum yamunai nadik-karai tanilE gOpiyarODu kUDik-kaLittADik-kuzhal Udi ninra gOpAlA
nADi oru nAgam shinam Odunga adan shiramadanil ADi ninrAi akhilam pOTra anburuvE tAlElO
(rAgA: nIlAmbari)
5: matakkariyin komboshittu mAman kamsan tanai nashittu mANbu mighu annai tandai magizha shirai mITTavanE maraiyavaruL karam tanda maDal kaNDu viraindEGi maNam muDittAi rukmiNiyai mAdhavanE tAlElO

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gati nIyE. rAgA: tODi. Adi tALA.

P: gati nIyE enru kadariDum enranai kaDaikkaNiyAda kAraNam yAdayyA
A: patitanAyinum un pAvana nAmam sholli matiyil un padamalar nItiyenak-koNDu
C: karuNA sAgaran nIyanrO rAmA adai arindu vandadu nAnanrO uyar
tAraka nAmam unadanrO adai uraittiDum enakkaruL tandiDum nALenrO

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Another song of her is Kolam kana vareeir-Natakurunji

Lyrics : Kolam kana. Raga: natakuranji. Adi tala. Composer: Ambujam Krishna.

P: kolam kana varir (tiruk) kosala balan karunalavalan malolan tiruk-
A: jnalam uyya bhanu kulattukkindu nila maghal karam konda raghuraman kalyanak-
C: tandai shol Etru kanakam Eghi dandaka munivarkkabhayam Indu
tanjamenra iruvarukku anjalenraruli daraniyor magizhvura dashamukhanai iruttu anujar muvar
pudai shuzha anjaneyan padam tanga janaka sutaiyudan kanaka simhasanattamar pattabhiraman tiruk-

Ranjini Gayathri have rendered this as a commercial album.

Here is a rendering by Madurai R Sundar-a close relative of Smt. Ambhujam Krishna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y9FTHjjoLA

venkatakailasam

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bAnu kulattudittu
tanjamenRa iruvarkku

VKailasam,
Madurai Sundar is vidUshi Ananthalakhmi Sadagopan's nephew and student. That's why he knows a lot of Ambujam Krishna songs.

venkatakailasam
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arasi wrote:bAnu kulattudittu
tanjamenRa iruvarkku

VKailasam,
Madurai Sundar is vidUshi Ananthalakhmi Sadagopan's nephew and student. That's why he knows a lot of Ambujam Krishna songs.
Thank you for the correction as well as for the information.
I am happy another Smt Ambhujam krishna has arisen in the horizon and as in the case of the elder one, her compositions have also been tuned by Vidushi AS. ( Iread about your compositions in another thread a couple of days back )

Being an elderly man of 76 years my blessings and best wishes are with you.

venkatakailasam

arasi
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Thank you, Venkata kailasam for your kind wishes. Another correction there. The songs were not tuned by AS. I am a vaggeyaAra in the sense I do not write the lyrics alone, but sing them too. As I am tAlam-impaired, she helped me with that aspect of it, my dear Mami.
Have you read the thread in General Discussions where modern composers are discussed ? ;) I do not know which class of composers I belong to now. What are my feelings about it? Anything which has merit is worth listening to. Just as a rAgam can be given new dimensions by able musicians (by which I mean not something of the artiste's own additions but of discoveries of what were already hidden there in the rAgam ). If it is new, so be it--but it's not something invented by the musician. If the music has merit, I'm all for it. This applies to lyrics too. Same old words, perhaps, but some different perspectives, and a few changes in vocabulary and expressions too, because several things change with time. Who said after kAlidAsA, no one should write a play, after kamban, not anything at all in tamizh? Every era has to have its own creators. The quality of what is created is what matters most. New compositions need not mean that they are going to replace the old gems.
You call yourself elderly. We are as young as we think. If we don't think that way, we elders will surely be oldies!

venkatakailasam
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I called my self elderly as I felt I should be in a position to bless others.

venkatakailasam

arasi
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You still can! I am not that far behind, though!

venkatakailasam
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Smt. arasi


Can you clarify whether Smt. Anantha lakshmi Sadagopan and Anantha Lakshmi chella are same?

Is VV Sadagopan is relative of Ananthalakshmi sadagopan ?

These are long lingering doubts in my mind.

venkatakailasam

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I do not know who Ananthalakshmi Chella is.
AS's husband Sadagopan and VVS were first cousins. Trivandrum Aiyya (who composed kannan varakkANenE peNNE and other songs), like VVS was a composer too, and was another cousin.
AS was a close friend of Ambujam Krishna. She has tuned some of her songs and would sing the songs which VVS tuned and also the songs tuned by Semmangudi and others. She taught them to Sundar , her grand daughters and others. Her daughter Sujatha Vijayaraghavan has put in a lot of effort in publishing AK's songs.

rajeshnat
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arasi wrote: She taught them to Sundar , her grand daughters and others.
Sundar is vocal vidwan Madurai Sundar , who is the disciple of TNS who is based out of US

mohan
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Arasi - I think we need a family tree to understand all the connections!

VK RAMAN
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mohan wrote:Arasi - I think we need a family tree to understand all the connections!
srkris was ahead of this and in fact suggested the members to start a tree for each individual under www.geni.com

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One more song of SMT Ambhujam krishna rendered by Smt Aruna Sairam:

E'-SWARA 011-Gyanamazai pozukindran-SMT. Aruna Sairam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKGElInouSk

A Mixing by me.

venkatakailasam

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A super song with a fantastic mix by you!
gAna mazhai pozhiginRAn was tuned by V.V.Sadagopan and he sang it with such bhAvam.

Lakshman,
I'm hoping you may have the audio in your collection which is not from a concert but just of his singing of some of the songs from the first volume of Geethamala . He was the tune smith for all the songs in it.

semmu86
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Is there any book containing the lyrics of Smt. Ambujam Krishna's compositions? I can see only the list of compositions and not the lyrics.

priyaram78
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A website dedicated to the great devotee Smt. Ambujam Krishna please....... meanings of her songs too please :-)

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arasi:
Sorry, I don't have the audio clips from volume 1.

semmu86:
Ambujam Krishna's songs have been published (5 volumes so far) under the title Geethamala. These should be available from The Karnatic Music Book Centre in Royapettah, Chennai.

priyaram78:
I don't thin there is a website for Ambujam Krishna's songs.

priyaram78
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I actually meant to say...........please someone create a website for Smt. Ambujam Krishna. Her songs give so much joy. Wish a website comes up soon. Its a dream come true.

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Lakshman wrote:
Ambujam Krishna's songs have been published (5 volumes so far) under the title Geethamala. These should be available from The Karnatic Music Book Centre in Royapettah, Chennai.
Thanks very much

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Yesterday (18 Oct 2014), I heard podigai in the evening- the program compered by TK Haribabu (father of keyboard sathya) and anuradha . The program was on Ambujam krishna , it was very informative and very well done . Smt Ambujam's son(industrialist suresh krishna from TVS family) and daugther(Radha parthasarathi) spoke wonderfully about smt ambujam(daugher in law of Industrialist TVS) . Also the dancer sudharani raghupathy and charumathi ramachandran (who tuned karna ranjani composition of smt ambujam ) spoke very well. Can we get a url of the recording placed here please(Attn haribabu, Venkatakailasam or TVG sir).

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Rajesh,
Happy to hear this! Waiting for it to appear on youtube :)

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Yesterday (Nov 01st,2014) had a chance to hear the last 15 minutes of Ambujam krishna program in podigai . It was superb . AK son Suresh krishna spoke of how her mother had very minimal know how of languages like kannada and how she composed . AK daughter radha parthasarathi spoke so well about AK stay in madurai and how each of her family members started moving to madras .

R Vedavalli - a great orator we have to give her a second sangeetha kalanidhi for that . She spoke from her heart how she tuned a nattaikurinji number of Ak.She told how she struggled to tune the anupallavi though charanam and pallavi were much easier. She sang even few lines .

TKB
Any chance to see or hear the recordings . I did not see you in the last 15 minutes but saw the other cohost anuradha. Keep up your great work

On a side note we talk about senior citizens etc in another thread, Ambujam krishna has been so humble despite her wealth . She saw goodness in all things and that inspired her to compose and document her geetha mala . Truly a great role model for any one at any age. Life is all about unconditional love and Smt Ambujam krishna showed that in plenty.

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Write up of Ambujam krishna centenary concert with vidushi Aruna Sairam performing
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/che ... 848754.ece

Arasi,
I am curious what is the first song of Ambujam krishna - "that was an emotional outpour on Goddess Mahalakshmi" as mentioned in the above writeup.

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It was on Meenakshi, not Mahalakshmi, and is titled 'Unnai Allal'

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melam72 wrote: 14 Oct 2017, 17:44 It was on Meenakshi, not Mahalakshmi, and is titled 'Unnai Allal'
Melam72,
You are right with your keywords i searched and got more info from sriram v blog few years ago.
https://sriramv.wordpress.com/2008/11/1 ... m-krishna/

Unfortunately The Hindu has printed as Mahalakshmi and not Meenakshi

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Rajesh,
gAna mazhai became very popular in rAga mAlikAs, appealingly and aesthetically tuned by VVS.There is a richer rAgamAlikA in content, heft and length:dEvakitan kulakkozhundAi kuvalayathil avadarithAi, tuned by SS. Not many know of it.

In tODi, there are two not well-known ones: alaiya viDudal nyAyamA? and gati nIyE enRu. Not much sung also. A varALi one: engini selvEn, yAriDam solvEn? Wish vidvAns and vidUshis take them up...

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lAst week there was a write up of Ambujam krishna with a minor mention of aruna and photo
This week there is a writeup of Aruna Sayeeram giving more details about AK numbers that was sung Ambjuam krishna memorial concert
http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/m ... 882349.ece

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Thanks, Rajesh...
That tODi song, alaiya viDudal nYAyamA? is one of my favorites. That one and aDaikkalam aDaikkalam in madhyamAvathi were tuned by VVSadagopan.

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I did not know till i read this 22nd , June ,2018 writeup in The Hindu that Ambujam Krishna was not a vaggeyakkara. I was assuming few numbers she also tuned , but i do know that Kedaranathan, Madurai Krishnan(disciple of ariyakudi and paramaguru of Hyderabad Ramamurthy) and TN Seshagopalan etc tuned many of her compositions

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... cky_footer

Arasi,
Do you have a rough list of which numbers of Smt Ambujam Krishna were tuned by which artists.?
Would be nice if you fish out details from Sujata Vjayaraghavan on how to get this book published by NGS trust and share here.

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Rajesh,
Did you see the personal mail I sent you?

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Volume 1 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by V.V.Sadagopan (51 songs)
Volume 2 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by Semmangudi and Musiri (51 songs, tunesmith not specifically identified)
Volume 3 - Ambujam Krishna songs - 1 to 25 tuned by S.Ramanathan, 26 to51 tuned by T.N.Seshagopalan
Volume 4 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by K.R.Kedaranathan (51 songs)
Volume 5 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by Anantalakshmi Sadagopan (27 songs)

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Thank you LJI that was very userful info . By any chance can u just list the names of the songs and map it to tunesmith (if it is handy and available you post otherwise you dont have to type everything )

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Did you get my email?

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Lji
I got your mail and I just checked now .thank you Sir. What you gave me is very valuable if I have time I will type it in English those songs so that folks know who has tuned which song of Ambujam Krishna .

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If possible can someone tell who set to tune in BehAg this "VaruvAyendrun vazhipArthirunthein vAradhadheno raghunandhanA nE.." song of Smt Ambujam Krishna ?
Imo It's such a simple but moving lyrics by poet and beautifully set in behAg too. Unfortunately not many sing/aware of this catchy piece that can suit in the end of concert and from few renditions available in web I guess it's tuned by SSI due to artists from his line of disciples.
Thx

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Yes, indeed. SSI tuned it. Interestingly, there is also another one tuned by him which starts with the words: varuvAi varuvAi enRun vazhi pArthu which is a rAgamAlikA in khamas, asAveri, behag, and paras.

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Thanks for quick reply. Those songs are really catchy esp the behAg one for me

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Lakshman wrote: 14 Jul 2018, 02:49 Volume 1 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by V.V.Sadagopan (51 songs)
Volume 2 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by Semmangudi and Musiri (51 songs, tunesmith not specifically identified)
Volume 3 - Ambujam Krishna songs - 1 to 25 tuned by S.Ramanathan, 26 to51 tuned by T.N.Seshagopalan
Volume 4 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by K.R.Kedaranathan (51 songs)
Volume 5 - Ambujam Krishna songs - tuned by Anantalakshmi Sadagopan (27 songs)
All the books mentioned, including Volume 6 released in the last decade, have all gone out of print. Thankfully🙏, the family of the late AK has done a great service by making available the notations in a dedicated website at https://www.ambujamkrishna.com/.

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The 6 books shown on the webpage only go up to the Index pages. The notations are not there.

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I am getting the notations upto volume 6. In the notation index, link to he notation page for each song is given in the last column.

Vol.6 has 52 songs. It seems volume 7 is under preparation.

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Thanks Pratyaksham Bala. I somehow missed it.

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Next set of AK songs are tuned by Smt Charumathi Ramachandran. Clips available @ https://www.youtube.com/@ambujamkrishnacharumathi/videos

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