Purandara Dasa

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cienu
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#176

Post by cienu » 24 Jul 2008, 10:55

rasika_avishesha wrote:I remember listening to one song, "aalisu krishnana koLalina kare" . I'm not sure if it is by Purandara Dasa, but it'll be nice if you can tell me where to find this song online.

Thanks.
I have heard this song sung in Sindhu Bhairavi Raga. A wonderful song truly.Thanks Sreeni for the information.
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#177

Post by rasika_avishesha » 11 Aug 2008, 04:41

can anyone post the lyrics of "eccharadali naDe" ? I listened to it sung by Vani Satish, and it seems to have a lot of ethical meaning.

Thanks!
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#178

Post by Lakshman » 11 Aug 2008, 05:22

eccaradali naDe. rAgA: Anandabhairavi. aTa tALA.

P: eccaradali naDe manave naDe manave
A: muddu acyutana dAsara oDanADu manave
C1: anna dAnava mDuvidilla mrSTannava tandu mundiDuvaru alli
anyaru nuDivudu illi ninna benna carmava sILi tinisuvaralli
2: Alaya dharmavu illi vishAla vaikuNThadoLiDuvaru alli
Alaya muriyuvudilli ninna shUlada maravanErisi kolluvaralli
3: cADiya nudiyuvudilli nI nuDida nAlige sILuvaralli
bEDa bandare baiyuvudilli ninnanODa kAla kattarisuvaralli
4: yAcakaranu baiyuvudilli ninna nAcige tegedu nAlige sILuvaralli
yAcakara pUje illi ninage sOcita mArgavanIyuvaralli
5: tande tAyigaLa bayyuvudilli hallu jhaNDeya kaTTi sUDisuvaralli
tande tAigaLa pUje illi dEvEndrana sabheya tOruvaru mundalli
6: atte mAvana bayyuvudalli ninna kattu karagasadalli koyyuvaralli
atte mAvana pUje illi avaLa uttama pativrateyembuvaralli
7: dharmava mADuvudilli ninage sudharma sabheya tOruvaru mundalli
karma mOcanegaLu illi ninage nirmisihanu krimi tinnuvudalli
8: vancane mADuvudilli kAda hancina puDiyanu tinisuvaralli
pancAmrtavana nIDuvudilli ninage kancukALandiya piDidiharilli
9: gaNDana bhaktiyu illi namma puNDarIkAkSanu oliyuvanalli
gaNDana nindipudilli ninna khaNDa khaNDva kattarisuvaralli
10: mattiTTu kolluvudilli oddoddu haddu kAgeg-hAkuvaralli
kSEtra buddiya mADuvudilli doDDa guddali kAsi bennoLu eLevaralli
11: heNNu honnanu bayasuvudilli ninna kaNNige suNNava tumbuvaralli
kanyA dAnava mADuvudilli namma purandara viTTala oliyuvanalli
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#179

Post by seagrowler » 17 Aug 2008, 23:55

rasika_avishesha wrote:I remember listening to one song, "aalisu krishnana koLalina kare" . I'm not sure if it is by Purandara Dasa, but it'll be nice if you can tell me where to find this song online.

Thanks.
I just found it on Youtube, athought the title is ridiculously mis-spelt - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyAWpRb_33s
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#180

Post by arasi » 18 Aug 2008, 01:42

A trivial question: Is a sea growler a sea lion?
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#181

Post by rasika_avishesha » 24 Aug 2008, 04:18

Mr. Lakshman, thanks once again.
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#182

Post by rasika_avishesha » 24 Aug 2008, 04:19

wow.....seagrowler ....thanks for the link.........it was truly beautiful.
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ramakriya
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#183

Post by ramakriya » 24 Aug 2008, 06:09

seagrowler wrote:
rasika_avishesha wrote:I remember listening to one song, "aalisu krishnana koLalina kare" . I'm not sure if it is by Purandara Dasa, but it'll be nice if you can tell me where to find this song online.

Thanks.
I just found it on Youtube, athought the title is ridiculously mis-spelt - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyAWpRb_33s
This is NOT a composition of purandara dAsa

The lyrics are by PuTiNa ( P.T.Narsimhachar) and music composed by Doreswamy Iyyengar (in this movie) . Most of PuTiNa's songs are tuned by himself, which may have been improvised by other musicians.

-Ramakriya
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#184

Post by vs_manjunath » 24 Aug 2008, 11:11

rasika_avishesha wrote:can anyone post the lyrics of "eccharadali naDe" ? I listened to it sung by Vani Satish, and it seems to have a lot of ethical meaning.

Thanks!
This song is also sung by Octogenarian RK Srikantan in mukHari.
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#185

Post by ramakriya » 30 Aug 2008, 04:37

If you can read Kannada, and are interested in traditional stories being retold in a new light, you might find the following interesting :-)

tambUri mITidava.. bhavAbdi dATidava... : http://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/

P.S: This story was selected to be published in an anthology of short stories (a literary souvenir) at the Kannada conference being held in Chicago Rosemont Convention center, starting today [August 29- September 2] :)

PPS: If you can (or, sort of manage to) understand Kannada, but can not read the script - I suggest you to use our good Arun's transliterating engine to convert it to your favorite script. In fact at least one Rasika member has done it so already successfully. :) :)

-Ramakriya
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PUNARVASU
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#186

Post by PUNARVASU » 30 Aug 2008, 19:17

Ramakriya,
where does the story begin and end?
I did not know which one to copy -paste in Arun's transliterating engine-I can not read kannada, but understand a little.
And I really like Arun's TE and thought I will do as you suggested.
But there are so many passages and I got overwhelmed.
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#187

Post by ramakriya » 31 Aug 2008, 08:33

The entire thing in Kannada is the story :)

-Ramakriya
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Post by PUNARVASU » 31 Aug 2008, 09:46

And I thought it was a short story!
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#189

Post by rasika_avishesha » 13 Oct 2008, 06:00

I have a question that I had asked earlier, but am still not satisfied with the info.

Now, we have a huge collection of Dasa's compositions, but, how many of those did he attach to a particular raga? How many of those that are sung today in specific ragas, were also sung by Dasa in the same ragas?

Was the raga system in Dasa's time developed to an extent that the present-day renderings show?

I think, most probably, Dasa never sang any of his songs in a kacheri setting, because he was always on the move. So, does that mean, he did not originally sing his compositions in elaborate ragas, such as seen these days?
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#190

Post by keerthi » 14 Oct 2008, 14:52

I don't know the meaning of 'Elaborate' ragas, but Purandara dasa used Gujjari, Padi, Malladi(malahari?), Nadanamakriya, Saindhavi, Aahiri, Mukhari, Saurashtra, Navarauj, Kamboji, Erukalakamboji etc.
Purandara Dasa's Contemporary Annamacharya used these and other now archaic-then extant ragas like Desaksi, Gumma kamboji, Samantha, Andhali, Mangalakaisika, Telugu Kamboji and Suddha Vasantam. Dakka, Lalitha and ghantaravam feature frequently in his songs.

While the copper plates with his songs(found in Tirupati and Ahobilam) had the Raga mentioned, there is no question of notation being written. While several artists choose to set their own tunes in exotic and quixotic ragas like kuntalavarali and hamsadhwani; few Scholars like SangeethaKalanidhi Rallapalli Ananthakrishna Sharma undetook painstaking research to understand the lakshanas of these ragas and have set tunes in the ragas denoted by annamayya.
Sri. Sarma's book published by the oriental Research Institute, Tirupati begins with the disclaimer that not of these tunes are annamayya's, but that the raga swarupa is as close to the original as possible.

The same is true for Purandaradasa.
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#191

Post by maduraiveeran » 16 Oct 2008, 03:47

hey all,

I came across these two nice articles written by Dr. MLV about purandaradasa.
http://www.krishnaganasabha.org/article ... kumari.pdf
http://www.krishnaganasabha.org/article ... kumari.pdf
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#192

Post by ramakriya » 16 Oct 2008, 05:00

rasika_avishesha wrote:I have a question that I had asked earlier, but am still not satisfied with the info.

Now, we have a huge collection of Dasa's compositions, but, how many of those did he attach to a particular raga? How many of those that are sung today in specific ragas, were also sung by Dasa in the same ragas?

Was the raga system in Dasa's time developed to an extent that the present-day renderings show?

I think, most probably, Dasa never sang any of his songs in a kacheri setting, because he was always on the move. So, does that mean, he did not originally sing his compositions in elaborate ragas, such as seen these days?
This might interest you:

Here is the link to post I wrote an year ago about internal evidence of Ragas used in Purandara Dasa's times -

tutturu toorendu battisa raagagaLannu ....: http://tinyurl.com/3tkc3z

tutturu toorendu battisa raagagaLannu ...


I believe every composition of haridAsas was sung in *some* rAga - And if you consider rAgas like ShankarabharaNa, kalyAni, varALi and tODi as elaborate rAgas, then yes - he should definitely have sung his compositions in elaborate rAgas.

-Ramakriya
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#193

Post by arasi » 20 Oct 2008, 08:39

ramakriya,
If only I were proficient in kannaDa, I would gladly do it. I am a slow reader too. When I clicked on the link, I could not read the page (I see a series of ???).

VKRaman,
The article is in a lighter vein, ramakriya says, but considering the title, it is a serious subject!
heNDati, prANA heNDati comes to mind :)

ramakriya,
Can you read tamizh at all? I am asking becuase it is funny that I have something similar to share with you...
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#194

Post by ramakriya » 20 Oct 2008, 22:12

arasi wrote:ramakriya,
If only I were proficient in kannaDa, I would gladly do it. I am a slow reader too. When I clicked on the link, I could not read the page (I see a series of ???).


Can you read tamizh at all? I am asking becuase it is funny that I have something similar to share with you...
arasi,

hmm! I wonder why the link is not showing up. I will send you a PDF version by e-mail. Since it is a short article try your hands on translating. :)

Yes, I do read tamizh - although a bit slowly. Please do send the article you are talking about!

-Ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya » 20 Oct 2008, 22:14

maduraiveeran wrote:hey all,

I came across these two nice articles written by Dr. MLV about purandaradasa.
http://www.krishnaganasabha.org/article ... kumari.pdf
http://www.krishnaganasabha.org/article ... kumari.pdf

Do you know where these articles were taken from?

I've got these articles translated to Kannada - to post it on the haridasa sampada website : http:haridasa.in/
and it would help if I know where/when these articles were published.

-Ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya » 21 Oct 2008, 00:17

ramakriya wrote:
maduraiveeran wrote:hey all,

I came across these two nice articles written by Dr. MLV about purandaradasa.
http://www.krishnaganasabha.org/article ... kumari.pdf
http://www.krishnaganasabha.org/article ... kumari.pdf

Do you know where these articles were taken from?

I've got these articles translated to Kannada - to post it on the haridasa sampada website : http:haridasa.in/
and it would help if I know where/when these articles were published.

-Ramakriya
For those rasikas who can't read Tamizh, but can read Kannada, here is a link to the translation of one of these articles.

http://tinyurl.com/63hkw7/

(Translated by Smt Shaila Swamy)

-Ramakriya
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#197

Post by ramya » 22 Oct 2008, 05:45

can someone give me the lyrics of two purandara dasa songs 'maraya beda manave ninnu' in ragam tilang and also 'shiva dharisanam nama gaayithu' in ragam madhyamavathi.

thanks
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Post by Lakshman » 22 Oct 2008, 19:14

ramya: Please repost your request on Sahitya & Identification Requests section. Also one kriti request per posting please. Thanks.
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#199

Post by iluvmusic » 19 Nov 2008, 09:37

I am looking for lyrics for "Yemenenil kananennu". Could someone send me plz
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Post by VK RAMAN » 19 Nov 2008, 09:49

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=1131587&t=7365 - lyrics and rendition available here.
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