Muthuswamy Dikshitar

Carnatic composers (other than performing vidwans)
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sridhar.vasudevan
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Post by sridhar.vasudevan » 07 Mar 2009, 13:41

He is indeed one of the Greatest Composers in Music History. I am in a process of collecting and learning his works (trying to !!!). This page is for posting information about references to audio clips of Dikshitar krithis so that it will be of much use to Dikshitar "fans" like myself.
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Shankar Mahadevan
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Post by Shankar Mahadevan » 07 Mar 2009, 13:58

I am a great fan too. Keep me updated.
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 07 Mar 2009, 14:18

Hello,
There is a site where all Muthuswamy Dikshithar's song lyrics are published. Here is the link:
http://www.ibiblio.org/guruguha/
For audio of almost all his songs go to www.sangeethapriya.org and click on the Tribute to Muthuswamy Dikshithar page.
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Post by visaalam » 09 Mar 2009, 12:06

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ts
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Post by ts » 09 Mar 2009, 17:16

Wondering why people cannot start a thread with their own words :-)

http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewlite.php?t=1632

I know for a fact that the one who started this thread is not the same one who started it in the link above... (from Jan 2000)

:-) LOL :-)
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Post by vasanthakokilam » 10 Mar 2009, 11:15

;) good detective work. Let us see if the nature of posts have changed over the 9 years.
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Post by saarangam » 22 Sep 2010, 15:35

It is commonly seen that the name of dIkSitar, of the musical trinity, is
written as muttusvAmi dIkSitar. I find that in samgIta sampradAya pradarsini, shri subbarAma dIkSitar has spelt the name as “muddusvAmi”.
If I am right, muttu is a Tamizh word meaning pearl and muddu is a telugu word meaning beautiful or charming. So which is the correct name of dIkSitar?
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Post by mankuthimma » 23 Sep 2010, 10:17

http://chennairasika.wordpress.com/keerthis-corner/

An interesting article by Keerthi in my blog .On this subject.
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Post by venkatakailasam » 19 Nov 2010, 10:15

A Tamil tribute to Muthuswami Dikshitar -An article at The Hindu Friday Review:

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2010/11/19/stor ... 160300.htm

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Post by vidya » 20 Nov 2010, 04:48

Venkatakailasam,
Just wanted to point out this in the context of that article..

About two years ago, a group of us (Dr.P.P.Narayanaswami, Ravi Rajagopalan, Dr.S.Sivaramakrishnan and myself) with the guidance of Dr.N.Ramanathan typeset the Dikshitar Kirtana Prakasikai and have made it available online here. Infact the work is dedicated to Dr.V.Raghavan as 2008 also marked his centenary year and he was instrumental in bringing out the work. One other forumite Naresh Keerthi also helped us with some proofreading after the first release!!

http://www.ibiblio.org/guruguha/dkp_p.pdf

Since the Tamil version is currently (and has been for a while) out of print, Dr.N.Ramanathan has also taken a lot of efforts to scan and make available his copy.
That is available here:
http://musicresearch.in/categorydetails.php?imgid=162
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Post by Enna_Solven » 20 Nov 2010, 07:15

Hi Vidya,

What happened to the other 3 volumes mentioned by the nAgasvara vidvAn? Did he pass away before publishing them? (this book published in 1936 and he passed away in 1938)
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Post by venkatakailasam » 21 Nov 2010, 14:34

vidya- Thank you so much. Highly educative and compiled with so much of devotion.

Lot of reading materiel. Thank you again

venkatakailasam.
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Post by vidya » 21 Nov 2010, 21:41

Thanks.
enna_solven,
All I know is that attempts made to trace the remaining notations have not yielded anything.
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Post by PUNARVASU » 26 Nov 2010, 05:43

Saw this in 'The Hindu-Friday Review'..
Date:26/11/2010 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/fr/201 ... 540300.htm
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala » 04 May 2011, 14:15

The Hindu Friday Review article is no longer available in the above quoted website. Any other way to find it?
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Post by punnagavrali1024 » 18 May 2011, 09:54

I am just wondering if anyone has a recording of Sri Dikshitar's Sri Rajarajeswarim in Madhyamavati. I have not been able to find this krithi anywhere....
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Post by classicallover » 27 Oct 2011, 11:02

It is not enough to say and take pride in being a great fan of Shri. Dikshitar Swamy. We have to put it into action. We have to learn atleast the basic principles and tenets of Samskrit language. We can better appreciate and understand the values and the bhakti in the compositions.

It is sacrilege to say that we are fans. Fan is a modern term attributing superficial admiration and also physical or artificial attraction. We should call ourselves "devotees" and "servants" of Shri. Dikshitar Swamy - if at all we deserve it.

Someone has asked what is true name of Shri. Dikshitar Swamy - Muttuswamy or Mudduswamy. The latter was the original Samskrit name, later incorporated in Telugu. The former is the evolved name from the Samskrit into Tamil, undergoing what is called an "orthographic change" . It does not mean pearl alone but also an endeared or petted one - as it is in Telugu.

So folks, start learning first then discussing. I am prepared to teach spoken Samskrit for whosoever is interested. Alternately, you can go to other sites like "speaksamskritam.org" , etc. or interact with organisations like Samskrita Bharati which is a non-govt., non-political , non-profit, voluntary service oriented institution dedicated towards propagation of Samskrit language in easy spoken form - not the tough take-it-by-heart route.

When tribals and illiterates of villages in Chambal valley, remote hot desert of Rajasthan and interior Karnataka can speak Samskrit, why not you ? You can learn to speak basic daily life Samskrit in just ten days, learning the rudiments.
Why Samskrit ?

Germany speaks German, France-French, Spain-Spanish, Sweden-Swedish, Denmark-Danish, Japan-Japanese,China-Chinese, etc.. But in India ( Bharat ) - what ? We should speak Bharati, which is Samskrit. Bharati was the other name for Samskrit in ancient days widely spoken throughout the sub-continent. This has originated from the Divine Mother of Learning, Saraswati whose other name is Bharati. Hence the language of our mother (mother tongue) should be ours - Bharati. So the Samskrit language is very divine - also called as Deva Bhasha.

If only our country had chosen Samskrit as our national language, our country would have definitely made much more progress than it has made now.

So, please look at all the musical compositions with devotion as they are nothing but teachings from the sacred scriptures and nothing less than the holy scriptures themselves.

Dharmo rakshati rakshitaha. Jayatu Samskritam - Jayatu Bharatam.
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Post by classicallover » 27 Oct 2011, 12:29

Dear Punnagavarali,

Please correct the spelling of your id if you are referring to the raga.

The kriti in Madhyamavati you are referring to is very difficult to learn as well as dangerous to sing. Why do you think it is not in circulation or limelight like many other krithis ? It has been advised by elders that it should not be recited or sung by every and any common person as it can render a severe backlash on such persons. It contains lots of moola beejaaksharas and secrets from the mantra & tantra shastras which have to be devoutly understood and preserved in their pristine form. Only those who have been initiated to Shri Vidya Upasana, Chakra Upasana and also religiously and systematically practice them daily, can read it or sing it ( only if they also know music sufficiently ). So please forget it and do not attempt to read, circulate or learn the kriti even if you manage to get it from somewhere.

This advice is sincerely given to you as well as others, out of personal experience.
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Post by Ranganayaki » 28 Oct 2011, 03:54

Classicallover, your posting reads like the typical chain letter about Sri Balajee of Tirupati, with all the dire consequences, except that you have the opposite message.. Don't read, DON't learn and Don't circulate.. Please share with us your personal experience.

Don't read, don't learn, don't circulate as it is way above your level - sounds quite a lot like the way to ensure that the kriti dies, Just like the way Samskritam went, unfortunately. I do appreciate your and others' efforts to revive the language, though. But the end of Sanskrit happened in a natural way. When the kriti is learned poorly by a large number of people, there is a greater chance for one genius to come along who will sing it with all the perfection you describe. Otherwise the kriti dies. I have no idea what song you are all referring to, but just wanted to share the thought as I couldn't help it. You seem to want to revive Samskritam and yet you prescribe the perfect method for another piece of the culture, this kriti, to go extinct, be killed off.

I do wonder if everyone will share your political views about Sanskrit being our national language.. I would question the sanity of leaders who decide to have a language that is no longer in circulation as our national language. Most Tamilians will not agree that Sanskrit was our mother tongue, beautiful a language as it is. Southern Indian languages borrowed from Sanskrit, but did not originate in it. (Please allow me to say "Sanskrit" while I speak English)
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Post by isramesh » 28 Oct 2011, 10:22

After reading here (classicallover's comments on Sri rajarajeswarim), out of curiosity read the text of this krithi (sahityam.net) - truly a gem, just magnificent. In fact my interest got multi-fold to listen to this krithi. But sadly I could not find it anywhere (searched sangeethapriya and others). Do not know whether anybody has ever sung it.
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala » 28 Oct 2011, 11:54

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Post by classicallover » 28 Oct 2011, 13:10

Ranganayaki ( and others ),

You have very successfully not understood the essence of the message and your retort only suggests that you may also belong to the same tribe as that of Macaulay. He declared in the British Parliament and in his letter to the King that he will disintegrate India and made the plan to break the unity of India which was very tightly bound by Indian culture whose basis was Samskrit .You are thumping around that Samskrit is extinct having had the unwanted influence of modified history taught to us by the British. Why don't you question the sanity of leaders who chose Hindi as the national language ? Hindi had just arrived, with no proper linguistic basis, no literature, no science and best of all no script. It was an average of all the dialects spoken around in many regions. Samskrit was the foremost language under active consideration for getting the national language status until the last moments when the cowardly leaders chose Hindi, being very afraid of Samskrit which had by then concentrated into the hands of the upper castes. Your pessimistic singular feelings and opinions don't matter when all the above has been accepted by a vast majority of leaders and linguists including Hindi pundits. You must also know that Samskrit was preserved in south India by Tamilians mostly and the early kannadigas especially using the Grantham script.

You are also equally awfully wrong that I want that the kriti should go extinct. It is very much alive in safe hands of Shri Vidya practitioners and will never die. It is like Kohinoor diamond. If everyone possesses it, there is no value for it. It should not fall into the hands of people like you especially who want to dilute or denigrate its importance. The kriti is not begging everyone to learn it and kill it.
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#23 Re: Muthuswamy Dikshitar

Post by Pratyaksham Bala » 28 Oct 2011, 13:18

In India, no language has so far been declared as 'the national language' !
Hindi is only the 'official language' of India, though English has also been approved for official use.
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala » 28 Oct 2011, 14:23

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Post by classicallover » 28 Oct 2011, 14:29

Bala,

Hindi has been declared the "Raj Bhasha" or "Rashtra Bhasha" by the languages sub-committee of the Constituent Committee and very vocally endorsed by Gandhiji himself. English has been approved, apart from Hindi, as the other working language of the Govt., until Hindi has been fully implemented throughout the country, even if it takes centuries to do that.
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