Lyrics for vAnathin mIdu - Ramalinga Swamigal

smala · Post by **smala** » 27 Jan 2010, 04:30

if this is MSS then it must have been in her very early years...

http://www.hummaa.com/search/search.php ... hin+meethu

Enna_Solven · Post by **Enna_Solven** » 27 Jan 2010, 07:49

From the Thiru Arutpa by Arutperunjothi Ramalinga Adigal, popularly known as "vallalAr"

ARAm tirumuRai
110. aruTkATci - sindu

vAnattin mIdu mayilADak kaNDEn
mayilkuyil AccudaDi - akkacci
mayilkuyil AccudaDi

tuLLalai viTTut toDa#nginEn manRADum
vaLLalaik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci
vaLLalaik kaNDEnaDi

sAdi samayac sazhakkaiviT TEnaruT
cOdiyaik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci
cOdiyaik kaNDEnaDi

poyyai ozhittup puRappaTTEn manRADum
aiyaraik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci
aiyaraik kaNDEnaDi

tirucciTRambalam.

mayil - vindu. kuyil - nAdam. (I do not understand the context for notes; have left in place in case others understand it.)

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 27 Jan 2010, 09:04

E_S, I think the notes represent the following symbolism - the peacock (mayil) represents the mystic center of creation - a dot - vindu, while kuyil symbolizes praNavam the primordial sound (nAdam) - murugan is considered to be a synthesis of both (nAdavindu kalAdi namO namO...)

Enna_Solven · Post by **Enna_Solven** » 27 Jan 2010, 09:09

Ah, makes sense now. Thanks! Did our ancestors know about Big Bang? Indians seem to be the only people associating the beginning with a center point and a great sound

smala · Post by **smala** » 27 Jan 2010, 10:19

rshankar wrote:E_S, I think the notes represent the following symbolism - the peacock (mayil) represents the mystic center of creation - a dot - vindu, while kuyil symbolizes praNavam the primordial sound (nAdam) - murugan is considered to be a synthesis of both (nAdavindu kalAdi namO namO...)

Ravi can you decode fully, rather than in part, for mortals like me? Grateful.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 27 Jan 2010, 11:40

Thanks Enna_solvEn and Ravi!
How Nature inspired him to come out with these words--watching ever-changing cloud patterns in the sky!

smala · Post by **smala** » 27 Jan 2010, 12:41

What are you people talking about?

smala · Post by **smala** » 28 Jan 2010, 05:37

Arasi, Enna Solven, Ravi - will one of you please explain what all of you are talking about - very lost here!

Enna_Solven · Post by **Enna_Solven** » 28 Jan 2010, 07:55

OK, this is a rough translation. Ravi/Arasi will refine it.

ARAm tirumuRai Sixth Sacred Text
110. aruTkATci - sindu Blessed Vision

vAnattin mIdu mayilADak kaNDEn I saw a peacock dancing in the sky
mayilkuyil AccudaDi - akkacci The peacock turned into a koel (cuckoo) - dear sister
mayilkuyil AccudaDi The peacock turned into a koel.

tuLLalai viTTut toDa#nginEn manRADum I left my mischiefs (useless jumping around) and
vaLLalaik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci saw the benefactor who dances in the Cosmic Hall - dear sister
vaLLalaik kaNDEnaDi I saw the benefactor.

sAdi samayac sazhakkaiviT TEnaruT I discarded the evils of caste and religion and
cOdiyaik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci saw the Blessed Light - dear sister
cOdiyaik kaNDEnaDi I saw the Blessed Light

poyyai ozhittup puRappaTTEn manRADum I destroyed lies and started off
aiyaraik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci I saw the Devine One who dances at the Cosmic Hall - dear sister
aiyaraik kaNDEnaDi I saw the Devine One.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 28 Jan 2010, 08:18

Sure..

These set of verses are addressed to an 'older sister' (akkacci). And surprisingly the literal meaning was not too difficult to translate. The main philosophical interpretation occurs in the first verse where the mayil observed in the skies (clouds perhaps) is the center of the universe, which then explodes/morphs into the primordial sound/nAdam - kuyil.

vAnattin mIdu mayilADak kaNDEn
mayilkuyil AccudaDi - akkacci
mayilkuyil AccudaDi

The poet says, My dear older sister, I beheld (kaNDEn) a peacock (mayil) dancing (ADa) on top (mIdu) of the skies (vAnattin), but lo and behold, the peacock (mayil) turned into (AccudaDi) a cuckoo (kuyil).

tuLLalai viTTut toDanginEn manRADum
vaLLalaik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci
vaLLalaik kaNDEnaDi

And when I finally abandoned (viTTu) my meaningless prancing (tuLLalai) and stated to chant the tiruvAmzhhi (toDanginEn) [1], I found/beheld (kaNDEnaDi) the bountiful one (vaLLalai) that I was praying to (manRADum).

sAdi samayac cazhakkai viTTEn aruT
cOdiyaik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci
cOdiyaik kaNDEnaDi

Once I gave up (viTTEn) the wickedness (sazhakkai) of caste (jAti/sAdi) and creed (samaya), I was able to behold (kaNDEnaDi) the divine (aruT) light/flame (jOtiyai/cOdiyai).

poyyai ozhittup puRappaTTEn manRADum
aiyanaik kaNDEnaDi - akkacci
aiyanaik kaNDEnaDi

Once I set out (puRapaTTEn) having destroyed (ozhittu) all falsehood (poyyai), I found the Lord (ayyanai) that I was praying for (manRADum).

FOOTNOTES
[1] toDakkam is starting, but here, in this context, I am assuming it is a religious text, and I chose tiruvAimozhi

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 28 Jan 2010, 08:20

Our posts crossed..

manRADum can also mean manRil ADum - the one who dances (ADum) in the assembly (manRil) of the golden hall...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 28 Jan 2010, 11:10

manRattil ADum vaLLal is how I understand it too.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 30 Jan 2010, 02:37

This song is supposed to be sung by a maiden addressing her older sister (akkcci = akkA).

Verse 1. citAkasam is meant by "vAnam"
mayilADak kaNDEn = viewing the sight of Lord Shiva
By viewing Shiva she also sees Shakti. That is what is implied by "mayil kuyil AccudaDi"

Verse 2. tuLLal = ecstasy upon seeing the Lord (here in this context)
The verse means "forgetting that feeling of ecstasy and getting back to a composed state I worshipped the Lord"

Verse3. "aruTcOdi" means "the light of wisdom" also known as "gnAna oLi"
sAdi samaya sazhakku = discord arising from caste/creed classification

Verse 4. Here "poyyai ozhittu" means leaving the course of falsehood--directed behavior (not just discarding lies alone)
"manRADum ayyar" = the Lord who dances in the golden hall

ksrimech · Post by **ksrimech** » 30 Jan 2010, 05:19

rShankar, I don''t think it could be tiruvAimozhi since this song is about Lord Siva. It should be the panchAkSaram.