Neela Ramagopal - our dear Forumite

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#1 Neela Ramagopal - our dear Forumite

Post by cmlover » 21 May 2010, 03:54

Here is a wonderful article on our dear Forumite with a fine picture...
http://beta.thehindu.com/arts/music/article434231.ece
We may like to know more about her though she herself slinks away from publicity.
She is like a lamp hidden under a bushel, an accomplished classicist who ought o be known to all lovers of CM. Those who know her personally do please narrate your experiences as well as interesting anecdotes.
Perhaps our Arasi can give us a Jump start!

Happy Birthday on reaching a milestone (advance greetings)
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Post by Radhika-Rajnarayan » 21 May 2010, 09:19

If you attend Neela Mami's concert you can be assured of not only listening to authentic pataantharam, but also learn a lot from her , just by listening to the concert, on raga alapana and development, neraval an swara prasthaaram.
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#3 Re: Neela Ramagopal - our dear Forumite

Post by arasi » 21 May 2010, 09:49

CML.
Thanks for posting this! I knew that Neela was going to be honored in Bengaluru for her achievements in music. She has lived a rich life, steeping herself in music and in training others with dedication.
Though I had heard her in concerts before and have loved her music, I had not met her until a few years ago.Wish I had known her earlier. Yet, the regret fades the minute I meet her every time. She is one of a kind--her music is excellent, her spirit and joi de vivre (against odds), amazing. And that twinkle in her eyes!
Music is her life blood. She belongs to a generation of female CM singers who are deeply rooted in tradition. She is highly imaginative too and tackles any rare rAgam or kruti with aplomb.
I hope we get to hear about the celebration from forumites like sappri, braindrain and pattamma. How I wish I were there! I hear that the celebration continues into June, with a special concert in her honor.

Other forumites and fans of Neela Ramgopal,
Now is the time to share some of her music here with her permission. I was listening to shUlini from her mElakartA rAgams CD just this morning, my morning energy pill from vidUshi Lively.

Neela,
Our heartfelt wishes for many more years of living and loving music so that you can energize rasikAs with your singing for many more years to come!

Radhika,
Just saw your post. I should have added your name to the list of fans!
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Post by pattamaa » 21 May 2010, 10:07

Advance birthday wishes to vidushi. Even if one reverses the digits in her age, she will be still young! Both at heart, her music and manodharma :D

I haven't got to hear many concerts of her, but when we listen to her live, it brings back memories of hearing DKP & MLV live! Innovative approach to music without compromising on ragha bhavam or patantara, presenting unfamiliar ragas, and compositions are her strengths, apart from effortlessly doing graha bedams, and singing ragamalika RTPs (transitioning from one raga to another - need to be listened to live, can't be described in words). After having heard her alapanas for ragas like Begada, even though she would have sung for 5 minutes or so, one gets a feeling of hearing a very elaborate alapana.She pretty much sings without any vocal support at this age. I have heard few awsome concerts of her, with charulatha ramanujam, arjun kumar and with Mysore Srikanth and Nanjil Arul. Looking forward to hear more of her concerts with accomplished accompanists like R.K.Sriramkumar, patri satish kumar etc.

I pray to god for healthy and long life for vidushi, may her tribes increase. Hope she gets deserving recognition, and atleast few concerts in December 2010.
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Post by munirao2001 » 21 May 2010, 10:12

Respected Ganakala Ratna Smt.Neela Ramagopal,
Our greetings and prayers for your continued musical journey for many more years to come.

I read the interview published in The Hindu. It aptly reflected your strong views and advice. Only factor I could not agree with your view is on voice culture. While no doubt quality of music transcends the limitations of the voice in KM, the average/uninitiated rasikas do appreciate the delivery/communication of musical ideas with well trained, cultured and well honed voice. There are umpteen examples with average/above average quality of music, performers enjoy patronage mainly on the strength of their voice. Equally there are examples of performers not enjoying the patronage despite the very high quality of their music, due to bad delivery/communication hampered by the poor voice/voice culture. Unlike practitioners of HM, the practitioners of KM are neglecting this vital aspect in their training, thanks to permissive Gurus and indulgent rasikas. Voice culture should take its right place in the training, with no excuses or escapism to make the KM appeal to larger audiences and for their own strength in excellent communication of musical ideas.
With Pranams

Sandhyavandanam Madhva Muni Rao(munirao2001)
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Post by rajeshnat » 21 May 2010, 11:49

Nice article , I have heard her only once , hopefully I get to hear her specials. I particularly liked her punch line
"A good concert, according to her, should include a ragam tanam pallavi, and at least three hours are required for this. "

Mods,
Can we merge this thread with the original Smt neelA thread please
http://rasikas.org/forum/viewtopic.php? ... ilit=neela
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Post by cmlover » 21 May 2010, 20:38

That thread is partly damaged. Since the topic is on honouring Neela let us continue here itself...
I do not find any of her concerts at Sangitapriya site. Any reasons?
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Post by munirao2001 » 22 May 2010, 10:18

Radhika-Rajnarayanan and Founites of Bangalore
Why not have a facilitation meeting of forunites of Bangalore on this special occassion and pay our respects to Ganakala Ratna Smt.Neela Ramagopal ?
We should also facilitate Vikram Sampath for his book 'My Name is Ghauri Khan'. We can combine both on one day.
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Post by mohan » 22 May 2010, 18:36

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Post by rshankar » 22 May 2010, 18:46

Best wishes to the viduSi!
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Post by cmlover » 23 May 2010, 06:09

Thanks Mohan!
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Post by pattamaa » 25 May 2010, 08:54

Here is a concert recording of Vidushi Neela Ramgopal, to celebrate her 75th birthday today

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=e629 ... 6a5faff527
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Post by cmlover » 26 May 2010, 06:41

Many thanks pattamaa..
Just d/led and started listening...
Is this the voice of a 75 year old.. If so then I can only say
shatAyur bhavatu |
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Post by Sreeni Rajarao » 26 May 2010, 07:09

Thanks for uploading a full concert - enjoyed Smt. Neela Ramagopal's music in a concert (until now, I had listened only to a CD of dAsara padas).
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Post by arasi » 27 May 2010, 08:10

Pattamma,
Thanks a ton for the RTP concert of Neela Ramgopal. It's a sample of a typical presentation of the vidUshi, though I've heard her sing more beautifully before. Perhaps because this recording was made from the mrudangam side and though the playing is good, it at times drowns the nuances in her singing. As interesting as a rAgamAlikA RTP can be, in a regular concert of hers, you can hear the many textures in her singing. Every time I hear her music, I get enthusiastic and happy about CM in general, and about this senior in particular. She is a blend of depth and innovation. As you have said, she is a combination of DKP and MLV, and yet with a style of her own. Her magic formula is this: immense talent, her learning music all those years was a labor of love, and add teaching music too, with such enthusiasm. The special ingredient in all this? Her spirited existence. If I hadn't known her at all and had just been a casual listener in a concert, I would still have been excited about her music.

Neela Ramgopal avarE!
Once again, let me wish you many many more musical years! I look forward to our time together in Bengaluru at the end of the year. Enjoy your evening of the musical celebration!
A small coincidence (well, sort of. I waited a bit for the number to come round until I wrote this post). Your 75th and my 7,500th post! Another 2,500, and I will get the 'adigap prasangi' (chatter box) award |( ;)
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Post by ragam-talam » 27 May 2010, 14:13

arasi wrote:Pattamma,
Thanks a ton for the RTP concert of Neela Ramgopal.
I couldn't find an RTP item in the uploaded files.
pattamaa - I wasn't able to download the file 13-Dwijavanthi-Tillana.mp3 - please help! thanks.
Also, who are the accompanists?

Great music by the maestro. What a voice, full of azhuttam!
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Post by cmlover » 27 May 2010, 19:52

arasi
Don't worry, you are already the Forum's loveable 'adigaprasangi' :D
Nobody will contest you!

By the by that was a nice mini review of Neela. With your waxing knowledge and experience in CM you should start writing Reviews at the Forum for us all to enjoy!
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Post by arasi » 27 May 2010, 20:22

CML,
Growing love for CM, yes, but knowledge to write reviews like some of our frontline reviewers? No! My only qualification is rasanai and I'm happy with it.
r_t,
I did not hear the dwijAvanti! Reason? I wrote to pattamma and said I had trouble opening the link, so she sent me one through mail which I listened to!
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#19 Re: Neela Ramagopal - our dear Forumite

Post by VK RAMAN » 27 May 2010, 21:59

What is the difference between rasikas and rasanai? I like the word rasanai
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Post by arasi » 28 May 2010, 03:57

Oops!
r_t,
I clicked on the wrong file in my list and that's why you didn't hear the RTP and I couldn't hear what Pattamma sent me. Apologies to her as well :(

VKR,
You are a rasikA and what you have is rasanai (rasana, rasane)
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#21 Re: Neela Ramagopal - our dear Forumite

Post by cmlover » 28 May 2010, 07:30

Technically arasi is a rasikai and she also has rasanai which is common to all of us who love CM!
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#22 Re: Neela Ramagopal - our dear Forumite

Post by pattamaa » 28 May 2010, 13:43

Here is link to thillana, not sure that is the problem though, i am able to download it.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yzvtzdt3i ... illana.mp3

arasi - please listen entire concert again, and re-review );-

This concert was held in 1994, almost 15 years ago. Accompanists were Dr. Narmada on violin, Vid. Anoor anantakrishna sharma on mridangam and M.A.Krishnamurthy on ghatam.

A great concert, i hear Ikanainana multiple times. This song has MSS & DKP stamp since they perfected it, however, this is a different listening experience.
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Post by ragam-talam » 28 May 2010, 15:57

pattamaa - thanks for the re-upload. I was able to download this time.
Ah, so this was a concert she gave when she was close to 60. Her voice is in fine mettle.
Do we have any recordings of her more recent performances?

On arasi, rasika etc... one should have rAsi to be a rasika - and of course, to be arasi, arguably our most loved forumite!
;)
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Post by cmlover » 28 May 2010, 21:22

R-T
arasi is the guardian angel of this Forum..
She is ubiquitous! No doubt she leads in number of posts..
If there is any friction anywhere you are sure to find her there applying a gentle salve...
No doubt she is the most loved rasikai...
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#25 Re: Neela Ramagopal - our dear Forumite

Post by arasi » 29 May 2010, 02:06

If you go on like this, either I would start sprouting wings
or get a swollen head which would pop--or
start using emoticons, a certain 'feline' rasikA favors
and 'Arasi in Rasika Land' scenario, it will be ;)

I could have used the Cheshire Cat
:grin: instead of this ;)
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