M.S. Subbulakshmi

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#1301 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by K Nagarajan » 22 Mar 2017, 22:36

How to search for a recent posting of a link for a book on Smt.MS Subbulakshmi.
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#1302 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by cienu » 25 Apr 2017, 07:05

The MS Blog in the website www.msstribute.org has many interesting articles and recordings.
https://blog.msstribute.org/
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#1303 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by cienu » 08 May 2017, 22:30

The link below in www.msstribute.org takes you to the exact MS Blue colour
https://www.msstribute.org/articles/art ... ettiar.php
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#1304 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by K Nagarajan » 11 May 2017, 13:40

Thank You, Sir for the links.
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#1305 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 24 Jul 2017, 21:03

Chellappa Sir, I am giving an email received today. by an ardent devotee of MS.
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'Dear Sri Ramaswamy,
Thank you very much for a very prompt response.
When I was attending a course in Railway Signalling at Secunderabad way back in 1969,my other indian colleagues were thrilled to hear me playing the Meera bajans in my room.I had the Tamil VCD and recently got the DVD version,but that is not so clear.I am a serious follower of M S Subulakshmi and i loved the hindi meera music too.I have been searching for it the last 40 or 50 years but unsuccessful I am prepared to pay even 1000 rupees but not successful
I come to Chennai every December for the Music Festival.So if you hear of anybody who has it, please let me know.
Regards
P.Satyamoorthy ([email protected])
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May I request Mrs.Niveditha Ramakrishnan, to take steps to make her hindi meera tape available to all in CD /DVD form? rasikas forum and Sri.V.Srinivasan can initiate steps through saregama. Best Regards.
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#1306 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by pattamaa » 25 Jul 2017, 20:31

Mostly youtube has them

If you are looking for meera tamil movie songs

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... Yh05_UK6-R
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#1307 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by pattamaa » 25 Jul 2017, 20:35

Hindi songs

Meera (1945/1947) (Tamil/Hindi): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 9D6FBEBD06
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#1308 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 27 Jul 2017, 16:27

pattamma-> thank you. The Hindi meera ( 1947) collection with original video clips is fine. but the tamil version collection is not , that good. ..I have attempted to present the songs in sequence with lovely lyrics by Kalki in thamizh.
https://sites.google.com/site/meera1945 ... ideo-links

1) murali mohana ( kapi) 2) kaatrinile (misra jonpuri) 3) enathu ullame ( chenchurutti) 4) duet > 5) giridhara gopala (mohanam) 6) yadhnandhana ( thilang) 7) leelaikal seyvaane (?) 8) veynguzhalin naadham ( patha dheep)
9) maravene ennaalilume ( paraj) ( 10) charaacharam ( ? ) 11) aranga un makimaiyai (behag) 12) maraintha koondil (kamaj) 13) udal uruga ( poorvikalyaani, sahana, naadhanaamakriya) 14) antha naalum ( sindhu bairavi) 15) engum nirainthaye ( ? ) 16) janaardhanaa ( manirangu?) .

May I have your help in identifying the ragams of songs shown in bold"
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Sri.Chelladurai needs the DVD of HINDI MEERA
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#1309 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by SrinathK » 28 Jul 2017, 10:37

A valuable collection of Ragam Tanam Pallavis -- https://blog.msstribute.org/ms-repertoi ... m-pallavi/

The Thodi alapana in #2 is from the early days -- incredible. One thing I observed is that in those old recordings, there was always some phrases or brighas in every alapana that weren't there in any other. To play them back on the violin would need demonic levels of practice...
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#1310 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 28 Jul 2017, 13:19

Srinathji, Thank you for the wonderful link. and the comment..
Is it possible to get MS's very early record of 'Intha Sowkyamu ' in Kapi? (before 1940 !)
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#1311 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 21 Aug 2017, 22:03

May i share my post made just now in 'general discussion' as it is mostly relevant to Smt.MS Music academy concert (1956)?
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic ... 35#p320308
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#1312 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 29 Aug 2017, 14:38

D.K.PATTAMMAL SINGING DURING THE WEDDING OF MS-SADASIVAM'S DAUGHTERS
A VERY RARE COLOR PHOTO!

https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... rarephotos
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#1313 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by Ramasubramanian M.K » 30 Aug 2017, 08:14

Great pic. The wedding was in 1957 @ the Kalki Gardens. The bespectacled lady facing DKP is Sadasivam's niece Chellammal--she composed hilarious tunes for he occasion-she had all her uncle's sense of humor!! One of the song was "KALYANA VAIBHavameE" in Simhendra madyamam.

It was one of the best well-attended marriages in City--nothing was "gaudy" and no flagrant displays of pomp and opulence characteristic of some of the weddings today.
The wedding was capped in the evening with SSI-TNK_Palani-Trichy Sankaran(double mridangam).
I know the concert was recorded perhaps lost in the archives with the sale and hasty evacuation of kaki gardens in 1977.

CIENU,would you be able to look for a copy of the recording?

Lovely memories are rekindled by such rare photographs. There is group photo with MSAmma in 9 yards (Muthu Chettiar's handcrafted one!!) .
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#1314 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 30 Aug 2017, 14:01

Ramasubramanian Sir, May I know the date of the wedding ? . The group photo with Smt.MS in 9 yards "madisaar'? ' was found in an earlier post. and posted in tribute to m.s.subbulakshmi ( facebook)
https://www.facebook.com/tributetomssub ... 89/?type=3
Very rare photo indeed!
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#1315 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 30 Aug 2017, 14:37

by SrinathK » 15 Jul 2016, 20:52
I stumbled upon this really old full length concert from 1955, offering a glimpse into what her music was in those years. (Spoiler : Pretty much the same as we've always remembered it, except the energy of her prime means her voice is in racing trim, punching through frightening brighas with the ease of a morning stroll, cruises in the upper octave like an airliner, and the manodharma is a free bird with no energy constraints).
Thiruvalangadu Sundaresa Iyer - Violin T.K.Murthy - Mridangam Umayalapuram Kothandarama Iyer - Ghatam
Radha mAmi is supporting vocal.
26 December 1955
9 pm - Music Academy, Madras (9 pm !! Really? These days the cities don't sleep, but this has vanished now!) Someone do tell me how you went back home at that hour?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCG5EM_3DF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpd247Vpmz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq_s1lLEnl8

There isn't much of MS at all from this period AFAIK, so whatever there is worth it's weight in gold :-
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Dear Sri.SrintahK, Entirely in agreement with the last line of the quote.
I too am in search of such albums. In the first link ( youtube) that you have given, a rasika has commented about the year of the concert. Can you please confirm the year?
I took the liberty of placing your post in my site
https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... n-rasikas
(kindly ignore the mistake in the year. I will attend to it..) .
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Post by Ramasubramanian M.K » 31 Aug 2017, 23:55

Dear RSR: Unfortunately I do not remember the date.All that I recall--which I admit is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to your question--I accompanied my mother to " Ahmedabad in September 1957 to help establish her FIRST Kuditthanam after her wedding--Radha's husband the late Viwananathan was working for one of the Textile firms in Ahmedabad. MSAMMA could not accompany her as she really wanted to becauseof pressing engagements--so the HONOR fell to my Mom to whom RADHA was the FIRST DAUGHTER!!

The notable thing about Radha--she was all of 22 yrs old at that time--(from the scorching headlights of Kalki gardens. when. not a day passed without a VIP visiting and Radha being the centre of attentions the Hostess_)-- Radha took to her new establishment like a fish to water--no fearsome nostalgia about the transition from cynosure of attention to an ordinary young housewife in a strange city Ahmedabad--where there were not many South Indians. Radha is one of those rare celebrities that I have known who are impervious to the adulation and sycophancy her status fetched.

I will try to get the precise date of the wedding from my family's archives.
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#1317 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 01 Sep 2017, 13:02

Respected M.K.Ramasubramanyam Sir, I have read all your posts in this thread. and love them. Any piece of news about the great years in Kalki gardens is most welcome to devotees like me of both Smt.MS and Sri.Sadasivam. and all the fortunate ones in the immediate family circle and family friends. and of course Kalki. You are the best person to write about those years. Everything is relevant. Smt. Anandhi too was a great personality. I will be grateful if you can recollect pleasant memories about her and Sri.Ramachandran ('Ambi') in family circles. Any photo of their wedding will be a glorious gift and information about Sri.Ramachandran.
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Post by Ramasubramanian M.K » 01 Sep 2017, 21:44

Dear RSR: Thanks for the kind sentiments expressed by you. As I have written several times before,I owe so much to MSAMMA and MAMA for whatever I have got. Mama always used to drill into my ears the qualities of Compassion,loyalty and gratitude. Mama was such a great person. that if you have ben of help to him at some point of his in the most trivial manner(you yourself would not even remember it) Mama would reciprocate at the appropriate occasion.

Regards Anandhi and Ramachandran(I used to call him Ambi Anna as Radha,Vijaya did).
Ambi Anna was a colorful,back-slapping outgoing person with a sense of humor that would outmatch his uncle MAMA himself --if at all that is possible. He came under the tutelage of mama when he was hardly ten along with his younger sister Thangamma. Ambi Anna did Economics Honors from Loyola just. around Independence. Mama had very ambitious plans to associate Ambi Anna(he had a shrewd business sense) with the KALKI Magazine(long before even the thought of getting him married to Anandhi which came subsequently at the behest of Rajaji) as his heir-apparent to the busisiness. Ambi Anna had other ideas--while he respected Mama's wishes and acknowledged the deep sense of gratitude towards Mama for his upliftment,politely and firmly told Mama that he had other ideas. MY own speculation is that BOTH were strong personalities and at some point of time were bound to clash and Ambi Anna did not want that to happen. To his credit Mama acknowledged this streak of independence respected his wishes and did not press him nor did he hold a grudge against him for turning him down. Ambi Anna stayed in Kalki Gardens for some time. before getting married to Anandhi moved out and set up his own establishment first in Bombay(he worked in the Insurance Industry). Whenever I visited Kalki Gardens in the late forties and early fifties Ambi Anna would "needle". my mother and myself--always coming up with a clever remark or repartee!! he was quite a handsome guy--tall and lanky fair like Mama. he was a voracious reader--he would be reading a book while having lunch sitting in the floor. he was always smiling--never a frown in his face. and always a diplomat in parrying away questions that he did not wish to answer!!!

Anandhi--a couple of years older than me-- was the epitome of dignity, grace and pleasant demeanor. besides being a good writer--both in English and Tamil. Given that her father spent most of his early years after his marriage in prison and the freedom struggle he had very little time for his children. Anandhi(even before her marriage to Ambi Anna) was very much a part of the KALKI household--although KALKI Mama and is family lived in Gandhinagar Adyar--quite a distance from Kilpauk in those days!!. Because both Radha and Anandhi danced together under Vazhuvoor Ramiyah Pillai and MS AMMA used to sing for their dance performances. Anandhi was a gregarious person--never hurtful to anybody in deed or word.
In our family archives I once found letter r from her to my mother in 1956(when my mother became a Grandmother for the first time @ 36 years of age) congratulating her on being a grandmother for the first time and went on waxing eloquently about the pleasures of GRANDMOTHER hood(remember Anandhi herself was all of 24 years old with 2 kids of her own at that time)That letter she showed she was a "true chip of the old block"(KALKI Mama)!!

After the children(Gown et al) had grown up and settled she started. helping Rukmini Devi @ the Kalakshetra-- selfless devotion doing research and helping Rukmini in her management of the hoary Institution. Anandhi was such a self-effacing personality. that she never tried to use that stint as a platform to seek publicity for herself. Always. smiling never one to assert her authority(although she had the stature ). An anecdote.

When MS AMMa was sick in the early Nineties,Anandhi was also stricken at that time and was undergoing treatment. Despite this on one hot summer day she came in an Auto to Kotturpuram from Adayar to see MS Amma. MSAMMa chided her for not informing her so that she could send a car. Anndhi smilingly brushed way and despite MSAMMa's pleadings left by Auto(of course Adyar and Kotturpuram were relatively close). Six months later she died.
She was very fond of my mother and myself and my sister.

She had tremendous respect for MAMA and Mama too reciprocated it in large measure. I can assert that she was one of the few personalities who never incurred Mama's wrath--a great achiebvement in and of itself!!
An intersting sidebar story. that haunts my mind even today.

As everybody knows both MAMA and KALKI MAMA were admirers of Rasikamani T.K. Chidambaranatha MudaliarOTKC as he was fondly called--a great Tamil Scholar and writer)--Tamil readers of yesteryears may recall his commentaries as a serial on the Kamba Ramayanam in the KALKI Magazine.

TKC was very much disappointed with the system of education(these were the British. Days). especially the Schools and was a fierce advocate of home-study and education instead of the class room pedagogy. He convinced Sadasivam Mama about the futility of formal schooling--Sadasiva Mama dutifully obeyed his mentor and withdrew both Radha and Vijaya from their formal schooling and gave them. home study. However KALKI Mama as devoted a follower of TKC as he was chose to send Anandhi to a convent school from she matriculated!! Anandhi was equally proficient in both ENGLISH and TAMIL!! As a young boy of 11 or 12 I was curious to ask Anandhi how this decision was made--given. KALKI Mama's distaste. for the British Colonial Culture that they spread thro the Schools how could he deviate from his own convictions. let alone deviating from his mentor's)TKC) stand on this issue

Alas I never got the courage to ask her the question. even though both of us were in our sixties
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Post by RSR » 01 Sep 2017, 23:12

Respected Ramasubramanyam Sir, How can I thank you enough for this great post! Though far far removed from the MS-TS family and friends, my only connection being my adoration of Smt.MS songs in the period 1938-1952 when her voice was just divine, and the association of both MS and TS with the Independence movement , during the most idealistic period, I have been ever charmed by the Life Divine of this blessed couple and managed to collect articles,records, , photos ( family photos) and such. Gowri Ramnarayan's article about how much Sri.Sadasivam loved 'Ambi' and many rare photos which confirm his affection , prompt me to gather more information about Sri. Ramachandran.
Yours is the first pen-portrait of him. that I have come across.
and Smt.Anandhi ! i have read her great piece of writing about the dance performance by Radha and herself.... in tribute to MS site. The humility and grace revealed in that article is endearing. . Ever eager to hear more from you. Sir. Thank you again.
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#1320 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by kvchellappa » 12 Sep 2017, 06:56

Sri Sankara TV will telecast the birthday celebration of MS at Shanmukhananda Hall at 6 PM on 16th Sep 2017.
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#1321 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 13 Sep 2017, 20:42

http://www.thehindu.com/fr/2004/09/17/s ... 890600.htm.
"The making of ``Meera" was studded with interesting incidents. `Kalki' Krishnamurti, who wrote the script and a few of the immortal songs, accompanied the crew and recorded the episodes. Excerpts, translated by GOWRI RAMNARAYAN. "
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Kalki's Meera Yatthirai is available in Dr.Pasupathy's blog. (thamizh original by Kalki)
http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.in/2016/09/12.html
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#1322 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by kvchellappa » 15 Sep 2017, 20:17

Tomorrow is 101st birthday of MS. This is from FB post:
https://blog.msstribute.org/ms-centenar ... born-sing/
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#1323 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by varsha » 16 Sep 2017, 07:51

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#1324 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by RSR » 16 Sep 2017, 10:55

kvchellappa Sir, Thank you for sharing the blog. in MS Tribute page.
varsha-ji -> Thanks for the Varanaradha song.
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sharing my post in facebook just now.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 4120416379
( i hope , it is allowed).
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And adding my toast...
https://sites.google.com/site/meera1947 ... vana-kunja
(pilu ?)
SrinathK will love it!
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#1325 Re: M.S. Subbulakshmi

Post by SrinathK » 17 Sep 2017, 12:41

I have all the songs of Meera in Hindi. The music was genius in the way it found a way to extract new tonal colours and capabilities out of MS Amma's voice and the perfection of the rendering. The songs are like finely crafted jewellery.

@varsha, Now that's some amazing veena playing! What a sound!
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