T.R. Subramaniam

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rajeshnat
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Re: T.R. Subramaniam

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There are very very few videos of this "extraordinary" TRS mama.

Here is his sundara tara dehAm swaras in pantuvarAli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HfDOetO ... ure=relmfu

Here is his mA jAnaki in kAmbOdhi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PusOXMWm ... ure=relmfu

His anyayamu in kApi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx8uh7-X ... ure=relmfu

Finally Another pantuvarali with Vadera deivamu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE5n-Z4w ... ure=relmfu

With a risk of repetition,I had a chance to hear shri TRS when I was in delhi during summer vacation. My periappa told you should hear him once , I said no I will instead go to nirulas icecream parlour in delhi as I thought he will not sing like maharajapuram santhanam . What a miss in my life ??? :(

Many musicians have vigour at the expense of losing manodharma. Many musicians have manodharma at the expense of losing vigour .TRS mAmA neither loses his manodharma or vigour. :clap: :clap:

rajeshnat
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Re: T.R. Subramaniam

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rajeshnat wrote:
Here is his sundara tara dehAm swaras in pantuvarAli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HfDOetO ... ure=relmfu
Rasaali (Vinay),
Are you playing the violin in the above clip.

Deekshita.V
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Re: T.R. Subramaniam

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Beautiful Krithi "jayajaya Durge" composed by Sri Narayana Theerthar was tuned in Raga DURGA by my Guru Prof TRS, is a classic example of his Vidwath. Please find the rendering of this krithi.
Jayajaya - Durga - http://youtu.be/BQvJQ8-W4xA

cpblog
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1973 T.R. Subramaniam Concert from "Parvathi", Mysore

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Respected Rasikas,

We agree wholeheartedly with all of you, in your appreciation of this great Master and offer you a delightful concert of his from April 18, 1973 in "Parvathi", Mysore.

This is also in remembrance of Vidwan Vellore Ramabhadran who accompanies him brilliantly in this concert along with Vid. Chandrasekharan (Violin) and Vid. Manjunathan (Ghatam).

Please welcome to http://chowdaiahandparvati.blogspot.com/.

Thanking you,
CPBlog Team

natakapriyan
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Thanks for the update on ProF T.R.S , Can you post the recording of "Inithu Inhitu" kanada Ugaboga in RM sung by TRS.

vasanthakokilam
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CPBLog Team, thank you. Just starting to listen. It looks all set to be a great concert. This is going to take me hours or days to finish listening, given that I had to listen to that gem of two seconds of kanada varnam between 28th and 29th seconds many many times. Quite unique, charming and exotic, though it is momentary and just flies by. Then he does all sorts of interesting things in the Charanam.

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To Sri Vasanthakokilam: We join in with you, time and again, to hear those great artists in this rare concert! Thanks, for stopping by - CPBlog Team

rajeshnat
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Re: T.R. Subramaniam

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From where does shri TRS get this much energy and vigour to sing such a long extraordinary swarakalpana.Hear this krithi sugunamule - chakravakham- T . In one go he sings the last swara kalpana pattern from around 07:54 to 12:08th minute- testimony for his manodharma. TRS needs 2 volumes of DVD(Are you listening sanskriti -SB Kanthan , we need a good biography of this living legend)
http://bit.ly/M7CkR8

Update on co-artists: Forgot to mention in the sugunamule ,prof TRS is accompanied by MC and RR(Assuming Palakkad R Raghu) and the concert is in 1980.
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sreebeecane
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Whatay! Brilliant stuff. :) Thanks rajeshnat for sharing. I love the fact that he lets the violinist play the return after the last pattern. Needs a large heart for that!

Yesterday I heard an epic Dharmavathi by Prof. TRS: http://www.radioweb.in/player-list?id=1781

Deekshita.V
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My Guru TRS mama attained lotus feet ,Today at 4.15 pm at his residence due to cardiac arrest . It is a great loss to me and music world.

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Re: T.R. Subramaniam

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Here is an absorbing RTP in raga Bilahari...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q7bnioRUVs



E swara trs 002 Shri. TR Subramanyam RTP Natakuranji MahatmaGandhi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoDNaoGqso
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raghavt
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A great loss... TRS was such a versatile genius... :(

Vimala Bulusu
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I came to know of the sad demise of Dr TR Subrahmanyam garu. My heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family. May his soul rest in peace.
I met Dr TRS at Bhakta Rasika Ranjani Sabha at BARC. He mentioned that he would be singing 'Sundari sada' in Suddha dhanyasi composed by my father as the main kriti. i recorded the same from audience. Pl bear with the audio quality.

https://soundcloud.com/vimalabulusu/sum ... hanyasi_ad

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hnbhagavan
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Re: T.R. Subramaniam

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Dear Rasikas,

Sri LGJ accompanied Sri TRS several times.Whether any member has recordings of TRS-LGJ combination?They had a unique mutual respect for each other.T R S played a major role in
popularising Lalgudi's compositions.

venkatakailasam
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Re: T.R. Subramaniam

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E swara trs-003-TRSubramanyam concert with LGJ and Karaikudi mani....sp archives..

Listen here...

http://mfi.re/listen/bxecaf33xiweqze/E_ ... i_xvid.mp3

varsha
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Three weeks down the line , It still hurts . Badly . We will miss him very much

abhimani
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TRS

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டிஆர்எஸ் எனும் டி ஆர் சுப்ரமணியம் – ஒரு சகாப்தம்

கடினத்தன்மையுடனேயே உலவி வந்த பல்லவிகளை எளிமைப் படுத்தியவர், ஸ்வரக் கோர்வைகளில் தனக்கேயுரிய நிபுணத்துவத்துடன் விளங்கியவர், எல்லாவற்றையும் விளக்கவல்ல, மதிக்கத்தக்க ஒரு குரு, ஸாஹித்யங்கள் பலவற்றின் கர்த்தா -- இவையேயன்றி, பலரும் போற்றும் குணங்கள் பெற்ற திரு டி ஆர் சுப்ரமணியம், 4.10.2013 அன்று நம்மை எல்லாம் சொல்லொணாத் துயரத்தில் ஆழ்த்தி, மறைந்தார். மேலுலகத்தில் வீற்றிருக்கும் இசை மேதைகளின், ஆசான்களின், அழைப்புக்கிணங்கி அங்கு சென்றாரோ?

அந்த டிஆர்எஸ்சுடன், அதே பெஞ்சில் அவரருகில் உட்கார்ந்து, சக மாணவராக ”வித்வான்” பட்டத்திற்காகப் பாடம் கற்றவரும், பெரும் மேதைகளும் அணுகும் அறிவுப் பெட்டகமுமான, திரு எஸ் ஆர் ஜானகிராமன் (எஸ்ஆர்ஜே), ”டிஆர்எஸ் மறைந்த செய்தி கேட்டவுடன், ஒரு பேரிடி வந்து என்னைத் தாக்கியது போன்ற உணர்வு என்னுள் ஏற்பட்டது” என்றார். கடந்த காலத்தில் சற்றே ஆழ்ந்த எஸ்ஆர்ஜே “டிஆர்எஸ்சின் மறைவு சங்கீத உலகிற்கு ஒரு பேரிழப்பு. டி.ஆர்.,எஸ்., டி.கே.ஜி (டிகே கோவிந்தராவ்), அடியேனாகிய எஸ்.ஆர்.ஜே, ஆகிய மூவரும் ஒன்றாகப் படித்தோம். அக்காலங்களில் ஒரு ”ட்ரையோ” வாகவே கருதப்பட்டோம். எல்லோருமே மூன்றெழுத்துக்காரர்கள்! 1949-50 முதல், டிஆர்எஸ்சை நானறிவேன். ”நீங்களும் டிஆர்எஸ்சும் ஒன்றாகவே வாழ்ந்தவர்கள்,வளர்ந்தவர்கள்,” என்பார் நாரத கான சபாவின் காரியதரிசி திரு ஆர் க்ருஷ்ணஸ்வாமி. பல்லவிகள் கஷ்டமானவை எனும் கூற்றைத் தவிடு பொடியாக்கியவர். பல்லவி என்றால், உடன் பக்க வாத்தியம் வாசிக்கும் சக கலைஞர்களும் புரிந்து கொள்ளும் விதத்தில், அவற்றை அமைத்து விடுவார். எல்லாமே மனதில் ஆர்வத்தைத் தூண்டவல்ல பல்லவிகள் தான். தவிர பேச்சுத்திறன் மிக்கவர். தெளிவுடன் பேசுவார். ஆந்திர மாநிலத்தில் அவர் இருந்த நாட்களில் விஜயவாடாவில் அவர் இல்லத்தில், சாயங்கால வேளைகளில், சதா கச்சேரிகள் தான். அங்குள்ள வயலின், மிருதங்க வித்வான்களும் அதில் பங்கெடுத்துக் கொள்வார்கள், பயனடைவார்கள். இளைய இசைக் கலைஞர்களை அவர் பின்னாலேயே வரச் செய்தவர். அந்த காந்த சக்தி அவரிடம் இருந்தது. அவரிடம் நல்ல பாடாந்தர முறையுண்டு. நட்பிற்கு உகந்தவர். அவரை மகாவித்வான் என்றே அழைக்கலாம். இதில் ஏதும் பொய்யுரையில்லை என்பேன்”

பலகலைகளையும் கற்று அவற்றில் வல்லமையுடன் விளங்கும் திரு டி வி கோபாலக்ருஷ்ணன் (டிவிஜி), டிஆர்எஸ் பற்றிப் பேசும் பொழுது ”அவரும் நானும் சமகாலத்தவர்கள்” என்பதை நினவு கூர்ந்தார். ”கேரளாவில் அவருடன் சேர்ந்து எம்எஸ்ஜியும் (வயலின்) நானும், நிறையக் கச்சேரிகள் செய்திருக்கிறோம். மேடையில் சாதனைகளை நடத்திக் காட்டியவராக்கும் டிஆர்எஸ். அவரது கச்சேரிகள் எங்களுக்கெல்லாம் சவாலாக அமைந்து விடும். ஈடு கொடுத்து வாசிப்போம். உற்சாகப்படுத்துவார், குதூகலமடைவார்”. டிவிஜி மேலும் பேசுகையில், 20ஆம் நூற்றாண்டின் பிற்பகுதியில் கர்நாடக சங்கீதத்தையே தாங்கிப் பிடித்த, ஒரு போற்றத் தக்க தூணாக டிஆர்எஸ் திகழ்ந்தார், என்று பெருமையுடன் தெரிவித்தார். அதே சமயம் புதிய வாக்கேயக்காரர்களான முத்தையா பாகவதர், லால்குடி (”உதாரணத்திற்காகச் சொல்கிறேன்”) போன்றோரின் உருப்படிகளையும் பிரபலப் படுத்தியவர். ”தன் மனதிற்கு பிடித்ததை எல்லாம் செய்து பார்க்க வேண்டும் என்ற திண்ணத்துடன் செயல் பட்டவர்”

டிஆர்எஸ்சினது மூத்த மாணவி முனைவைர் ராதா வெங்கடாசலத்திற்கு முதலில் பேச வார்த்தைகள் எழவில்லை. சற்று சுதாரித்துக் கொண்டு அவர் சொன்னது: “50 வருடப் பழக்கம். அவருக்கு நான் கொடுத்த ஸ்தானம் தந்தையார் ஸ்தானமே. அவரும் என்னைத் தனது மகள் போலவே பாவித்தருளினார். நான் முதலில் கணக்குப் படிப்பில் தான் சேர்ந்தேன். லால்குடி சாருடனும், சிவராமன் சாருடனுன், திரு டிஆர்எஸ் செய்த ஒரு கச்சேரி என்னை இசையின் வசப்படுத்தி விட்டது. அருகில் சென்று பார்த்ததில் டிஆர்எஸ் ஒரு அறிவுப் பெருங்கடல் என்பதையறிந்தேன். அவரது பரந்த மனப்பான்மை என்னை உருக்கியது. இசையிலும் சரி வேறு எந்தத் துறையிலும் சரி, அறிவு என்பது பகிர்ந்து கொள்ளத் தக்க ஒன்று, மூடிய அறை இங்கே எதுவுமில்லை, என்பார் அவர். பல மொழி வல்லுநர் – ஆங்கிலம், தமிழ், தெலுங்கு, கன்னடம், ஹிந்தி. அவர் நடத்திய இசைப் பயிலரங்கங்கள் முன்னுதாரணமாக இருந்தவையாகும். இப்பொழுது நினைத்தாலும் வியப்பு மேலோங்குகிறது. யாருடைய கச்சேரியையும் மிக கவனத்துடனும் சிரத்தையுடனும் கேட்பார் - முதன் முதலில் மேடை ஏறுபவராக இருந்தாலும் சரி, தேர்ந்த மூத்த கலைஞராக இருந்தாலும் சரி. 25 வருடங்களாக ம்யூசிக் எடுகேஷன் ட்ரஸ்ட் எனும் அமைப்பை நடத்தி வந்தார். தேடிப் பிடித்து மூலை முடுக்குகளில் உள்ள வித்வான்களைக் கண்டெடுத்து இந்த ட்ரஸ்ட்டில் பாட வாய்ப்பளித்தார். எவ்வளவு கலைஞர்களை அவர் அறிமுகம் செய்துள்ளார் என்பதே ஒரு நீண்ட பட்டியலாக அமையும். தான் சொன்னதைச் செய்தவர்; அதன்படி வாழ்ந்தவர். பல்லவிப் பயிலரங்கம் என்று வந்தால் முதல் நாளிலேயே வரும் மாணாக்கர்களையே பல்லவியின் உருவாக்கத்தில் ஆழ்த்தி விடுவார். சூக்‌ஷுமத்தைப் போட்டு உடைத்து விடுவார். நாங்கள் (மாணவர்கள்) ஆக்கிய பல்லவிகளையே தன் கச்சேரியிலும் பாடுவார். அவர் எழுதிய ஆழம் மிகுந்த ஆனால் எளிமையான கட்டுரைகள் பலப்பல. நான் முனைவர் பட்டம் பெற எனக்கான உறுதுணை அவரேதான்”

தனிப்புகழுடன் திகழ்ந்து கொண்டிருக்கும் ஹைதராபாத் சகோதரர்களை சென்னை ரசிகர்களுக்கு அறிமுகம் செய்து வைத்தவர் யார்? டிஆர்எஸ் தான். ”க்ருஷ்ண கான சபாவின் தலைவர் திரு யக்ஞராமனிடம், இவர்கள் நன்றாகப் பாடக் கூடியவர்கள். உங்கள் சபாவில் முதலில் 2 மணி ஸ்லாட்டில் ஒரு அவகாசம் கொடுங்கள், பிறகு பாருங்கள், என்ற பரிந்துரையுடன் எங்களுக்கு இடம் வாங்கிக் கொடுத்தவர் டிஆர்எஸ் சார்” என்று உணர்ச்சி பொங்கும் விதமாகக் கூறினார்கள் இச்சகோதரர்கள். ”இதன் பிறகு, நாங்கள் யாரென்றறிந்த பின்னர், கச்சேரிகள் குவிய ஆரம்பித்தன. ஒவ்வொரு கச்சேரி முடிந்த பின்னர் எங்களிடம் மேடையேறி வந்து, வாழ்த்துத் தெரிவிப்பது அவர் வழக்கம். எங்களைப் போலவே உள்ள இளைஞர்கள் பலருக்கு, அவர்களின் திறமையறிந்து வாய்ப்புப் பெற்றுத் தந்தவர் இந்த மகான்” என்றனர் இவ்விரு சகோதரர்களும்.

சேலம் காயத்ரி வெங்கடேசனும் டிஆர்எஸ்சை வழிகாட்டியாகக் கொண்டு இசைத் துறையில் முனவரானவர். “பாட்டு சொல்லிக் கொடுத்துத் திரும்பி வரும் வேளையில் தான் அவர் உயிர் உடலை விட்டுப் பிரிந்தது என்றால், இந்த குருவின் மகிமையை என்னவென்பது? யாரோ பாடுகிறார்கள், அவர்கள் கச்சேரிக்கும் செல்ல வேண்டுமா? என்று வினவினால், அங்கேயும் தப்பாமல் எனக்குக் கற்றுக் கொள்ள ஏதாவது இருக்கும், என்றே பதிலளிப்பார். கற்பதையே தன் கடனாகவும், கச்சேரிகள் கேட்பதையே தனது கடமையாகவும் கருதியவர். தற்பொழுதுள்ள இளைஞர்களுக்கு இங்கே ஒரு பாடம் காத்திருக்கிறது. அவர் பக்திப் பரவசத்தை முதலில் உணர்வார். பின்பு அந்த உணர்வுகளைத் தன்னிடம் கற்பவர்களுக்குச் சிந்தாமல் சிதறாமல் அள்ளித் தருவார். இதை நான் கண்ணாரா/காதார, மீனா‌க்ஷி மேமுதம் தேஹி எனும் தீ‌க்ஷிதர் கீர்த்தனையில் இருக்கும் “மீன லோசனி” என்ற இடம் வரும் வேளையில், அவருடன் அனுபவித்திருக்கிறேன். அவருடன் அழுதும் இருக்கிறேன். அவர் எங்களிடம் கூறுவது இதைத்தான்: உழைப்பது உங்கள் கையில், மற்றதைப் பற்றியெல்லாம் கவலையே வேண்டாம். 12 மனோஹரி (தேவமனோஹரி, ஈசமனோஹரி போன்றவை) ராகங்கள் உள்ள ஒரு ராகமாலிகையை எனக்கென்று அமைத்துக் கொடுத்தார். என்ன லாவகம்! இசையே அவர் கைவசம் எனலாம். டாக்டர் பட்டம் பெற தீசிஸைத் தயார் செய்யும் போது அவர் ஒவ்வொரு வாக்கியமும் தக்க ஆதாரத்துடனும் உரிய மேற்கோள்களுடன் இருந்தாக வேண்டுமென்பதை வலியுறுத்தினார். பாடுவதில், அதன் முறையில், செய்ய வேண்டிய திருத்தங்களை, முகத்துக்கு நேராக, ஆனால் கேட்பவர் மனம் நோகா வண்ணம் கூறி விடுவார். அவர் மறைந்த பின்னர், அடுத்தது என்ன? என்ற கேள்விதான் எங்களைப் போன்றோரை வாட்டி வதைக்கிறது”

டிஆர்எஸ்சின் இல்லத்தில் இந்த மூவரைச் சந்திக்க நேர்ந்தது. நாதப்ரஹ்மம் எனும் இசைப் பத்திரிகை நடத்தும் மிருதங்க விதவான் மன்னார்குடி சுப்பிரமணியம், டிஆர்எஸ்சிடம் 12 வருடங்கள் பயின்ற டெல்லி முத்துகுமார், திருநெல்வேலி முதல் புதுதில்லி வரையில் அவரைத் தொடர்ந்து சென்று பயின்ற மோஹன் சந்தானம். அவர்களும் தங்கள் அனுபவங்களைப் பகிர்ந்து கொண்டனர்:
யாரிடமும் எதையும் எதிர்பார்க்காமல் கொடுத்துக் கொண்டே இருந்தவர் டிஆர்எஸ் சார். வித்யா தானத்தை வழங்க காத்துக் கொண்டிருந்தவர். இவரிடம் உரையாடி இசை குறித்த விஷயங்கள் பலவற்றைத் தெளிவு படுத்திக் கொள்ளாதவரே இல்லை எனலாம். பாட்டின் சங்கதிகள் சரியாக அமையாதவரை பல முறைகள் அவரும் எங்களுடன் பாடுவார், எங்களுடன் உழைப்பார். எந்த அலுப்பும் அவருக்குத் தட்டாது, எங்களுக்குத்தான். ஏதோ உரைகளைப் படித்துவிட்டு தீ‌‌க்ஷிதரின் ”அக்ஷயலிங்க விபோ” போன்ற க்ருதிகளைப் பாடாதீர்கள். சொந்தமாக அதில் உள்ள கட்டமைப்பை, பாட்டின் போக்கை மனதினுள் இறக்கி, பின்பு பாட யத்தனம் செய்யுங்கள். டிஆர்எஸ்சிடம் உள்ள ஞானத்திற்கு அவர் எப்படியோ வாழ்ந்திருக்கலாம். அதை விடுத்து எளிமையான வாழ்க்கை முறையைப் பின் பற்றியவர். புது தில்லி குளிரையும் பொருட்படுத்தாது பஸ்ஸில் பிரயாணம் செய்தவர். காம்போதி நவாவர்ண க்ருதியை எங்களுடன் தானும் சேர்ந்து டி கே ஜெயராமன் சாரிடம் கற்றவர். அதில் வெட்கப்படுவதற்கு ஒன்றுமில்லை என்பது அவரது கூற்று. அபாரத் துணிச்சலுடன் பல இசைச் சாகஸங்களை மேடையில் செய்து முழு வெற்றி கண்டவர். பல்துறை வித்தகர் எனும் பட்டம் அவருக்கு மிகப் பொருந்தும். வித்வான் டி எம் த்யாகராஜன் போன்றவர்கள் கஷ்ட திசையில் இருந்த போது ஸங்கீத நாடக அகாடமியின் ஃபெல்லோஷிப்பை அவருக்குப் பெற்றுக் கொடுத்தவர். ஃபேஸ் புக்கின் ”தம்ப்ஸ் அப்” முத்திரை போல அவரது பரிபாஷையில் “கொடி இருக்கு உன் பாட்டில்” எனும் பதத்தை உபயோகிப்பார். இது புரிந்தவர்களுக்கு மட்டுமே புரியும். கச்சேரி தரத்துடன் இருந்தது என்பதற்கான குறியீடுதான் இந்தக் “கொடி”. அவரிடம் இசையின் இலக்கணத்தையும், இசை சார்ந்த இலக்கியத்தையும் ஒருங்கே காணலாம். தனது விமர்சனத்தை, தன் மாணவர்கள் மீது திணிக்காதவர். இதனால் தான் அவரது சீடர்கள் யாவருமே திறந்த மனத்துடன் எல்லா கச்சேரிகளுக்கும் தடையின்றிச் செல்வதை ஒரு பழக்கமாகக் கொண்டுள்ளனர். கருணாகரனே சிவசங்கரனே எனும் பாபநாசம் சிவனது கீரவாணி ராகப்பாடலை, அன்று பாலகனாய் இருந்த பாலாஜி சங்கர் மிக அருமையாகப் பாடியதைக் கேட்டு, அவனிடமே சென்று வயது வித்தியாசம் பாராமல் கேட்டுக் கற்றுக் கொண்டவர்.

”எனக்கு முன்னே சித்தர்பல ரிருந்தா ரப்பா,
யானும் வந்தே னொருசித்த னிந்த நாட்டில்” என்பார் பாரதியார்.

தனது இசையினாலும் அதை பிறர்க்கு தங்கு தடையின்றி வழங்கி, சித்து புரிந்து, உலகை ஆட்கொண்ட ஒரு சகாப்தமே, டி ஆர் எஸ் எனும் மூன்றெழுத்து. ஒரு வற்றாத நதி! ஆள் மறைந்தாலும் நதி ஓட்டத்துடனேயே இருக்குமல்லவா?

abhimani

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abhimani or others: Please provide a transliteration and translation please.

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I chanced upon a rendering of Endhuko Baaga Teliyadhu by Dr.BMK - which was being discussed in the condolence thread.
Here's the same:

https://soundcloud.com/ballkey/bmk-endhuko-baaga

This feels equally good, but I still prefer Prof.TRS version though. This is such an unusual song - it has the old world hindi film song feel to it - like Gaatha rahe mera dil or something. I'm sorry if people feel that comparison is odious - just my thoughts.

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I'm sorry if people feel that comparison is odious
I will go one step ahead .
It is as exotic and difficult as
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZ8d0eBNJo
No wonder , this song is never sung by any contestant in any competition .
Kishore Da - what a singer . !!!!!!

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Dear Venkatakailasam,

Thank you sir for providing TRS-LGJ combine link.Very nice.

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I have managed to translate the Tamil version to English and here is it:

He was the man who set at nought the age-old concept that pallavi singing was as difficult as it could be. And his swara korvais were as phenomenal as they were simple. And any explanation about music you could seek from him, regarding sahithyas of his own or of others. Such a colossus in the world of music, T R Subramaniam (TRS) left us to continue his work in heaven. He passed away on 4th October, 2013. One wonders whether all the aasaans and musical men and women “up above the world so high” wanted this diamond to be with them and had given a call to him?

Our dearest S R Janakiraman(SRJ), a living encyclopedia, was seated next to him on the same bench when he had done his “vidwan” course. “It was really a bolt from the blue, the news about the passing away of TRS” he said sadly. He went back in time to those days. “Yes. Certainly it is an irreparable loss to the music world. TRS, T K Govinda Rao (TKG) and SRJ, myself, we, the three lettered fellows, formed a trio of sorts. You and TRS - the two of you - learnt together and lived together and grew together - This was the utterance of R Krishnaswami, Secretary, NGS. I (SRJ) knew TRS, right from the 50’s. While it was true that he served to demystify pallavis per se’, he also saw to it that the accompanists were in their respective comfort zones and experienced the least difficulty when they played with/for him. He was an eloquent speaker too. His speeches would instill clarity within you. When he was in Vijayawada (AP) every evening there would be concerts at his residence. The musicians who benefited from attending and participating in these concerts were legion. And youth would go after him. He had that magical power within. And a truly friendly person to all. And his patanthara was perfect, and one could easily notate these. Yes! Without an iota of doubt he deserves the name “MahaVidwan”.

A man who had exhibited considerable prowess in the two fields, Hindustani and Carnatic, and who is a master of many instruments both laya and others as well, and a well-established vocalist, Sri T V Gopalakrishnan, TVG, said that “TRS and I belonged to the same era” with a sense of pride. “We, MSG on the violin and adiyen on the mridangam, together with TRS as the chief, have performed many concerts in Kerala. He could be called as an achiever on stage. And his concerts invariably would pose challenges to us. And I think we lived up to his expectations. He used to both impel us and enjoy it as well.” One can think of TRS as one of the pillars of carnatic music who belonged to the latter half of the 20th century. Yet he was not wary of venturing to popularize the compositions of contemporary vaaggeyakaras, Harikeshanallur or Lalgudi, for instance. “TRS was a man who wanted to achieve the dictates of his mind and was steadfast in this mission of his”

The foremost disciple of TRS, Dr. Radha Venkatachalam was choked with emotion and took some time to talk freely. “It was a fifty year old relationship. I have always treated him as my father and he treated me with an equal passion as his dear daughter. At Delhi, I was initially a student who belonged to the Maths discipline, but got converted to Music after listening to a concert of TRS sir. Sri Lalgudi and UKS had accompanied him in that particular concert. When I attained proximity to this great personality, TRS, I understood that he was a veritable storehouse of knowledge. He was a broad-minded soul in the truest sense of the word. “In music or in any other field for that matter, all knowledge should be shared. There should be no closed room/door that we may have to confront with.” This then was his noble motto. He was a polyglot who was comfortable with English, Tamil, Telugu and Kannada. The music workshops that were organized by him were perfect examples of the kind and are being followed even to this day – the format with changing content. He made it a matter of policy to listen to any artiste, be it a debut performance or the nth performance. He was an eternal seeker. Music Education Trust – MET, was founded by him and is about to celebrate its silver jubilee this year. Under the auspices of this trust many unknown vidwans and many many youngsters have obtained concert berths. The number of vidwans he had introduced would certainly be a huge list. During the Pallavi workshops he insisted on the participants forming a pallavi even on the very first day. Secrets would be broken here and now. And to boot he used to sing those pallavis composed by students in his concerts. Being a man of letters, his essays would be at once thought-provoking and authoritative. He lived his thoughts. If I have obtained my doctorate in music, it was all because of him - his enthusiasm and courage let me do it.”

As duo performers, Hyderabad Brothers, Seshachari and Raghavachari had carved a niche for themselves. And the one who introduced them to the Chennai audience was none other than TRS, whom they talk of only in reverential terms. “Once when talking to Sri Yagnya Raman of KGS, TRS sir said, Give them a chance in the 2 hour afternoon slot and then you will know. TRS thus got us a “place” in KGS and then there was no looking back. And mind you ,after each one of our concerts he used to come directly to the stage and congratulate us with his critical comments. In the same manner he was the man who spotted talent among youngsters and secured them a place to perform at Sabhas”.

Salem Gayathri Venkatesan was yet another candidate who had obtained her doctorate in music taking guidance from TRS. “The fact that he had breathed his last as he returned from a music class, shows what class (as a guru) he was made of. It is a non-entity singing and do you have to attend that concert too? If we had to pose this question to TRS, there will be something for me to learn there too, would be his quick reply. For him learning was his duty and listening to concerts was a penance. Youngsters, learners of today would do well to take a lesson or two from this attitude of TRS. He used to realize the full import of a particular song and would transfer that experience in an undiluted manner to his sishyas. I was fortunate enough to gain that experience when he taught me the particular line “Meena Lochani…..” (Meenakshi Mudham, Poorvikalyani). He constantly used to harp on another issue: To work is your duty and pray do not, do not worry about anything else. He had formed a composition that had 12 Manoharis (Esamanohari, Devamanohari and others) exclusively for me and I was with him when he was working on this. He was certainly a phenomenon, I realized again at that juncture. Music was, it seemed to me, I may dare say, at his disposal. He used to insist that in my doctoral thesis every inch had to have strong corroborative evidence. No empty assertions please. And he never hesitated to call a spade by its name when it came to correcting his disciples. But that would come without hurting you. It is definitely an art. Pointing out errors but that would never cause an “injury”

One had a chance to meet 3 ardent fans/disciples of TRS at his residence and this then was their chorus: (They were Delhi Muthukumar who had learnt from TRS for 12 years, Mannargudi Subramanian, Mridangist and Editor of the Music Journal, Nadhabrahmam and Mohan Santhanam who had chased TRS from Tirunelveli to New Delhi with a desire to learn from him)

He never expected anything from anyone. To give was his aim, Vidhya Dhaanam, if you like it that way. There is probably not a single musician who did not seek clarifications from him for some issue relating to music. He used to repeat sangathis with us “n” number of times till we got it right. We were the ones who would feel exhausted, not sir. “Please do not read some interpretations and get into a krithi like Akshaya Lingha Vibho (Sankarabaranam, Dikshithar) and render it in a perfunctory manner. Get the structure, the flow of the lyrics into your mind (or heart) and then venture to render it. That would be fulfillment for you and to that great vaaggeyakaara”. For the unbound knowledge he possessed he could have lead a luxurious life, but his lifestyle was as simple as it could be. In spite of the biting cold winters of Delhi, he chose to travel by bus.

He had learnt the Khambodhi NavaAvarna Krithi from Sri DKJ with us. He was also a student at that moment. No. Nothing to feel shy about this. He certainly had imparted this “listening” requirement in the minds of most of his sishyas. That gets reflected in all of us having an open mind, when it comes to listening. He was a truly versatile personality. When TMT was facing hard times, TRS arranged for a Sangeetha Nataka Akademi fellowhip be awarded to him and helped him thus.

And at the end of the concerts of others he used to say “Yes you have hoisted the flag (kodi). It was an inscrutable comment to many. It only meant that the quality of the concert was praiseworthy and had the stamp of class. This “kodi” term indicated that a certain level had been attained. And did you know this. He went all the way to Balaji Shanker’s residence to learn the Keeravani krithi of Sivan, Karunakarane. Such was his humility.

Mahakavi Bharathiyar had said this:
“There were many seers before me in this great land. I too had arrived and had, I hope attained the status of a seer”
By his music, and by the sheer magnanimity of giving, TRS had performed the feat of a seer and had thus taken the world by storm. A glorious chapter in the history of music. That three letter word, T R S, that river is one that would never go dry for ages to come. The man may have gone but the river will continue to flow!
abhimani

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Abhimani - thank you for taking the time to translate - this eloquent tribute can now be read, experienced, and enjoyed by rasikas other than the core group that is capable of reading the tamizh script!!

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Thanks Abhimani.

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I was thinking TRS singing a Dr BMK composition was itself a great thing , with abhimani mentioning that he has learnt from balaji shankar - KarunakAranE has shown how much shri TRS was taking good things from even much younger musicians. Tx Abhimani for your translation.

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Many thanks Vasanthakokilam for making me translate this tribute and a host of others who have come to know the various dimensions of this immense personality! I think I will receive a warm hug from TRS sir, when I reach "there". Thanks again!

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There is a small snippet posted online of Nov 2013 sruthi magazine . I am quoting those below

COVER STORY
An adventurer and a reformer
R. Swaminathan

Almost every evening you could see him get down from the rear seat of a Tata Nano car, and walk with faltering steps as someone guided him to a front row seat at one of the concert venues in Chennai. The performance could be by an up-and-coming, little known or well-known musician. The old man could easily pass off as a pensioner spending the autumn of his life by treating himself to live classical music. This was vocalist-teacher-musicologist T.R. Subramanyam’s near-daily routine. His genial demeanour belied his reputation as an uncompromising upholder of the spirit of Carnatic music, acquired over the last six decades in the world of classical music.

To him the music afforded aesthetic pleasure through exploration of ragas, delight in rhythmic variations and joy at the literary efflorescence of the composers. His pursuit in music was wholesome and holistic.


Early years
Born into a large family in 1929, Subramanyam grew up in a middle-class home. His father Rajagopala Iyer, employed with Indian Mutual Life Insurance Ltd., was a music aficionado who invited musicians to his home wherever he was posted. He hosted the likes of Ariyakudi, Semmangudi and Madurai Mani who partook of the warm hospitality extended by his family. As the family moved wherever Rajagopala Iyer was posted, Subramanyam and his siblings were to be schooled in several towns like Mayavaram, Kumbakonam and Tirunelveli. At Mayavaram he was tutored by Sivarama Iyer, a disciple of Poochi Srinivasa Iyengar. Later at Tirunelveli his teachers were A.D. Rajagopala Iyer and Perungulam ‘Gavai’ Seetarama Bhagavatar. He and his elder sister Radha received music training at home. According to him, his sister – now 86 – was talented and had an enviable, melodic voice. TRS regrets that his sister’s music career did not take off after her marriage. An event from boyhood days of singing as narrated by him is indeed fascinating.

Click here to read more ...

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Interesting to know that TRS mAmA has leant music staying at mayavaram,kumbakonam and then moving to Tirunelveli.He is also a second generation disciple of Poochi.

Does any one know anything more about sivarama iyer(tutor at mayavaram) and A.D. Rajagopala Iyer and Perungulam ‘Gavai’ Seetarama Bhagavatar(tutors at tirunelveli)???

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Hello All

Found this pic and wanted to share with you.

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Thanks
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There is a lot of posts of immense value shared in the other thread of Prof TRS, just posting the url here so that we can refer again
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22046 .

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Mods
In general the threads in the topic of Board index ‹ Carnatic Music ‹ Music & Musicians of the past (which I prefer you call Obituary) has to say have a 90 day window and then you have to lock that thread . THat way all posts are not spread in both Music & Musicians of the past AND Vidwans/Vidushis/Vageyyakara . Please lock the obituary threads and let people post in vidwans and vidushis (TRS mama is there too ). Lalgudi Jayaraman has a giant thread and another two threads are there in obituaries. Please lock it in time after obituarires are done

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Vidwan Mohan santhanam has written two lovely post of his guru and supernova Prof TRS. Keep it up Mohan very insightful :ymapplause: , there has been never a day where I dont think about Thiruvidaimarudhur Rajagopalan Subramaniam.

http://mohansanthanam.wordpress.com/201 ... nd-part-1/

http://mohansanthanam.wordpress.com/201 ... nd-part-2/

The part 2 is awesome. IF one of you recollect what is the pallavi phrase that TRS sang in the competition and post it here that would be great.

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Those articles by Mohan Santhanam were truly awe inspiring - well drafted, very thoughtfully presented insights in to the life of TRS- the greatest teacher. Thank you Rajesh, for bringing these links to my notice.

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CRama wrote:Those articles by Mohan Santhanam were truly awe inspiring - well drafted, very thoughtfully presented insights in to the life of TRS- the greatest teacher.
greatest teacher and More Importantly atleast to many of us a Greatest Performer :ymapplause:

Was TRS ever accompanied by mrudangam greats like Palakkad Mani iyer or Pazhani subramania pillai or much later by UKS or Trichy Sankaran or vellore Ramabadran or palakkad Raghu or CS murugabhoopathy . Any insights from any one there.

Have any oldtimers seen/heard TRS + PMI/PSP/UKS/TS/VR/PR/CSM combinations , by any luck does any recording exist?
Most of his recordings are with Kamalakar Rao and a lesser extent Karaikudi mani/TKM/JV/Arunprakash/few delhi artists whose name slips me /Kr ganesh/Trichur mohan/Arunprakash is there?.

The very fact that TRS mama has not played (or may be very minimal)with such greats like PMI/PSP/UKS/TS/VR/PR/CSM but still giving that great effect is commendable(that itself makes me give few extra brownie points).

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I have seen photo of UKS accompanying TRS and I have a concert accompanied by Vellore Ramabhadran. TRS-TRukmini-Kamalakar Rao was a highly successful combination for many decades.

I do not think any vidwan had any reservation in accompanying TRS. TRS being a laya oriented vidwan, mridangists will be very happy to accompany him. and he never made any test for any vidwan on the stage. He was the first to appreciate saha vidwans- however junior they may be.

I could be like this. When PMI/PSP/CSM were at the zenith of their career, TRS was a very junior vidwan and they prefered sharng the dais with their long term companions - SSI, GNB, MMI etc.

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CRama wrote:I have seen photo of UKS accompanying TRS and I have a concert accompanied by Vellore Ramabhadran. TRS-TRukmini-Kamalakar Rao was a highly successful combination for many decades.

I could be like this. When PMI/PSP/CSM were at the zenith of their career, TRS was a very junior vidwan and they prefered sharng the dais with their long term companions - SSI, GNB, MMI etc.
Let me know the songs of TRS - VR concerts , may be I did hear that without knowing that VR accompanied or if possible please upload again?

With respect to second point , TRS mama was born on 1931 . May be for PSP you may be right as psp expired in 1964(TRS mama was just 33 then). But PMI expired in 1980 and CSM expired in 1988 - TRS mama was 49 and 57 respectively , so there is a chance . when there is a famous recording of TNS-CSM , there can perhaps be a TRS-CSM/PMI too that some one in the internet is aware of?

How about Trichy sankaran - TRS combo , did that ever happen?

On a side note ,It is well known that for the sake of reaching more audience TRS mama purposely sang in afternoon concert in academy , that may have been a reason where in few top stars of the mentioned calibre would have skipped playing for trs mama as they had graduated to play in prime evening concert. But i dont know the scenario of other sabhas other than academy.

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I donot know this saxophone / composer Prashant Radhakrishnan. But I thank him for this lovely tribute to Evergreen TRS mama
http://www.prasantmusic.com/blog/remembering-trs/

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Is there a recording of TRS with Lalgudi jayaraman . Even if there is no recording have any old timers heard this combo.

I am looking also to hear TRS with Trichy Sankaran or TRS with Vellore Ramabadran or TRS with Palakkad raghu ?

By any chance when TRS mama was young did TRS ever had a concert with PSP/PMI /CSM ?

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I have heard TRS being accompanied by LGJ at KGS once. I have heard my father say that PMI has accompanied TRS. Among old time vidvans PMI has never accompanied only Balamurali Krishna.

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I *think* I've downloaded these from Sangeethapriya ... one with TRS / Lalgudi, TRS / MC and one with TVG.

Prof T R Subramanyam - Vocal
Sri Lalgudi G Jayraman - Violin
Sri Karaikkudi R Mani - Mridangam

List:

01-Evarikai-Devamanohari-Adi-Tyagaraja.mp3
02-Idubhagya-Pantuvarali-Khandachapu-Purandaradasa.mp3
03-Aparna_parvati-Nalinakanti-Roopakam-Kalyani_Varadarajan.mp3
04-Korisevimpa-Kharaharapriya-Adi-Tyagaraja.mp3
05-Tani.mp3
06-Mohanam_Ragm_Tanam.mp3
07-Pallavi-Mohanam.mp3
08-Vanitaro-Anandabhairavi-Roopakam-Dasu_Sri_ramulu.mp3
09-Haridasulu-Yamunakalyani-Adi-Tyagraja_n_Mangalam.mp3

Duration: 02:15:30

Size: 124 MB

1.shri.TR_subrahmaNyam-vocal
2.shrimathi.T_rukmiNi-violin
3.shri.TV_gOpAlakriShNan-mrudhanga

Venue:Bombay
Date:1972

Courtesy:Dr.N_shankara_nArAyaN.

contents:
01-inthamOdi_sEya-varNa-sAranga-Adhi-thiruvettiyUr_thyA.mp3
02-vAthApi_gaNapathim-hamsaDhwani-Adhi-m_dhIkShithar.mp3
03-endharO_mahAnubhAvulu-shri-Adhi-thyAgarAja.mp3
04-rArA_phaNi_shayana-harikAmbOdhi-rUpaka-thyAgarAja.mp3
05-vAdErA_dhaivamu_manasA-kAmavarDhini-Adhi-thyAgarAja.mp3
06-nIkeppudu_dhaya-abhOgi-Adhi-mysUru_sadhAshiva_rAo.mp3
07-sakala_grahabala_nIne-aTANa-k_ChApu-purandhara_dhAsa.mp3
08-lakShaNamulu_gala-shuDhDha_sAvEri-Adhi-thyAgarAja.mp3
09-RTP-bhairavi-swara_rAgamAlike.mp3
10-suDhAmayi_suDhAniDhi-amrthavarShiNi-rUpaka-muththayya_bhAgavathar.mp3
11-shLOka-mohana-incomplete.mp3

T R Subramanyam - Vocal 1987 - Kottayam

Sri T R Subramanyam - Vocal
Sri M Chandrasekharan - Violin
Sri V Kamalakar Rao - Mridangam

List:

01-Varnam-Hamirkalyani.mp3
02-Raghunayaka-Hamsadhwani.mp3
03-Evarani-Devamrutavarshini.mp3
04-Apparamabhakti-Pantuvarali.mp3
05-Sriranjani_Ragam.mp3
06-Marubalka-Sriranjani.mp3
07-Tatvamerugatarama-Garudadhwani.mp3
08-Nidhichala_Sukhama-Kalyani.mp3
09-Tani.mp3
10-Shanmukhapriya_Ragam_Tanam.mp3
11-Pallavi-Shanmukhapriya-1.mp3
12-Pallavi-Shanmukhapriya-2.mp3
13-Padmanabhacharanayugam.mp3
14-Tillana-Desh.mp3
15-Mangalam.mp3


Duration: 03:23:40

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Oct 04th,2013 the greatest manodharmam flame of Carnatic Music Thiruvidaimarudhur Rajagopalan Subramaniam moved on from earth to heaven to join his favourite GNB, his guru Musiri, his friend LGJ and other galaxy of carnatic stars.

Just Few Random Recollections with rajesh and TRS mama
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I met him for the first time in a concert in chennai .He attended his disciple padma seshadri sisters concert@TNagar TTD devasthanam , then our rasikas concert of PB Srirangachari@nageswaran house, his lecture on status of telugu which cooolkarni arranged , to the days when we sat for many concerts like trichur brothers @ NGS Mini, suryaprakash (OVK concert)@PS High school . He and me enjoying his disciple's concert Deekshita Venkatraman when that young kid sang an apoorva GNB Main krithi in bhairavi in an all exclusive GNB Composition concert, in all those moments I was more of a "guppu chuppu" upapakkavadhyam morsing artist just listening and smiling with TRS mama.

then.....

A little more talk with him in NGS canteeen when I mentioned about my Delhi Periappa who is around his age who were friends in Delhi from 1960's till 1990's.His eyes sparkled with me from then On. I graduated from a "guppu chuppu" morsing artist to a little more communicative kanjira artist . I started to talk with him with both paying little more mutual attention . Once he, me and just few other rasikas enjoyed a rare Dr Radha venkatachalam (Rave)concert at his music education trust in that Parvathi art hall in eldams road . I forgot the song and asked Rave the revati ugabhooga forgetting the lines(Dr Rave is TRS disciple ). Then TRS mama helped me and asked Radha to sing Eley ManamE the revati ugabhooga .


Then a bit later ...

Then I started privately complaining with him on different sabhas , different artists and finally even trying to tell him Sir GNB is not just the greatest musician you are also one ,with he rubbishing it aside. This GNB tussle where he says to me GNB is the greatest musician and I politely tell Sir you are also as great as GNB atleast happened half a dozen times with me also telling SSI and MMI are the greatest - perhaps countering not just GNB my favourites MMI and SSI are right there.

Then a bit later ...


Once he dropped me near my house after a mylapore concert in his Yellow Tata Nano after his red maruti 800 after many years (which was my last private meet ) .TRS mAmA said he enjoys making it to mylapore daily(his house is in annanagar pretty far to come to concert daily-the only rasika who travels to mylapore and mambalam to hear concerts till the pavamAna mangalame) .I recollect he told so many good things about Cleveland Sundaram, Saraswati Vageyakkara NV Subramaniam and Safe Ramabadran (Particularly TRS mAma had immense respect and love for Cleveland Sundaram )

Then a bit later for the last time ....

I saw him in walking stick at a distance during abhishek - pallavi darbar in 2013. If I am right the day before on Oct 03rd his last concert was that of he attending Brinda Manickavasagam (Brinda if you are there in the forum can you confirm and tell us what he said after your concert and corrrect me if he attended your concert last on Oct 2 or 3,2013 before he passed away. I am just conjecturing now) .

Then Oct 04th ,2013 happened.I saw him at rest in his anna nagar residence a day later.


On TRS receiving only Sangeetha kalaAcharya and not Sangeetha kalanidhi
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Seven or Eight years before jhalsik or someone with that id put some excerpts of his thesis in this forum .We all believe that TRS because of his thesis lost his SK award or so .May be you all dont know in 2002 ,academy has given TRS Mama Sangeetha KalA acharya why the hell is that instituation not given Sangeetha Kalanidhi when he lived from till 2013 when he was 84 years??.We talk in forum that MDR and Madurai Somu are not awarded , but they all died before 70. you cannot blame academy seriously for that. In my opinion they not giving TRS the award is really the worst decision more worst than somu,mdr etc(considering they have given to Bombay sisters and many kutti pasanga ponnunga after that till now).

Moving on today is Oct 04th,2016
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Little bit of Cmlover OR Rsachi like end to my post .The Vaayu PUtra -Lord AnjanEya was bit naughty in his early days but he had the most humility, Valour , courage and communication skills- he even had the charisma to be respected even by Lord Rama and Lord Sita . Our CM Vidwans and Vidushis of today need more AnjanEya balam and musical charisma relayed from TRS .

Just listen to TRS RTP in ranjani. While ranjani ragam is somewhat okay, but hear his spectacular taanam with mrudangam (from 13:45 onwards)and the pallavi neraval and that two ragamAliga swaras (especially the first one from where does he get so much of manOdharmam). Who is seshagiri rao the violinist that I still dont know (endharo MahanubhAvulu) with the motherly mrudangam suppport of Trichur Mohan (O dear Trichur Mohan you are simply fabulous).

Lord Anjaneya is very much there only with the evergreen Taala Raaga Swaroopan .

TRS-SeshagiriRao-TrichurMohan-MorsingPlayer??? Ranjani Pallavi- here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpeFbxvLdMY

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Thank you Rajesh, for sharing your thoughts about the Mahavidwan. Today, I am also constantly remembering about the various concert experiences I had of him. I have heard many of his concerts in TVM, Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata. Your thoughts kindled my thoughts.

Recording of this RTP Ranjani concert.

This RTP Ranjani concert happened in the Anjaneyar Temple in Mahalakshmi Lay out in Bangalore, some times in 1992/93. I think, it was Saturday or Sunday. When I saw in the newspaper about the concert, I made my travel plan. I was residing in Sanjay Nagar, Bangalore, not very far away from the location. And I was having an Yezdi bike of those days which used to take me to the farthest locations in Bangalore for hearing music concerts. There is a quarters of our staff in Nadini Lay out which is near Mahalakshmi Lay out. So myself and my wife (those days, occasionally I used to take my wife for music concerts- so that it will be an outing for her- not a musically oriented person she is) made a plan that we will go to Nandini Lay out to see a couple of friends and then go to the concert. I had taken my big AKAI Deck with me for recording. For TRS is one magnanimous person, who never objected to recording.

On this day, to my bad luck, I reached the venue just five minutes late. When I went, the concert has started and TRS was singing Smarajanaka subha charita as the first song which I very much wanted to record. But alas. It is mid way. I hurriedly went to the mike man, whispered him- give me a line out- I will pay you what ever you want. He was a good soul and obliged. Since it is not always that you will get to record from the amp, I wanted to take full advantage- already I had missed one song. So just when the first song was finished- I myself went up to the stage and gave a chit to TRS- KIndly sing Grahabhalamemi and Trilokamata. (Both the songs I did not have his recording at that time. One of my friends mentioned with awe TRS rendering of Trilokamata in TVM and the arresting swaras in Paras. ) Normally Grahabhalamemi he used to sing in the beginning of the concert and there is no use of requesting the song at a later stage. The Great vidwan and humane he was, he did not get disturbed because of my intrusion and happily acceded to my request by starting immediately Grahabhalamemi. So, this concert recording starts with Grahabhalamemi. Vedalanu Kodandapani is another gem that is sung as the main song in this concert. It is my recording which makes rounds among the rasikas.

Being Anjaneya temple, TRS most appropriately sang a pallavi in praise of Anjaneya in Ranjani- Hanumate Bhagavate Namaste. Rajesh, I do not find any shortcoming in the alapana of Ranjani. The tanam as you have told is electric. RM swaras in Kanada- he used to sing in all concerts- a very enjoyable sojourn always.

While returning I had to come via the Yeshvanthpur Bridge which was much confusing for me those days, and in pitch dark of night, with wife along with me, I went upto Peenya instead of coming to Mekhri circle – that is another story.

Today in Arkay, his Remembrance Day function is being organised by Delhi Muthukumar. PSN and TNS will be paying tributes to TRS followed by a concert of TNS. I propose to attend.

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May God Bless you CRama !!!!!

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In that clip from CRama, is the mRdangam vidvAn the father of the Trichur Brothers?

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rshankar wrote:In that clip from CRama, is the mRdangam vidvAn the father of the Trichur Brothers?
The Ranjani RTP that I put as per CRama has been recorded by him in bangalore . Trichur Mohan plays mrudangam , He is the disciple of Palghat Mani , UKS and Karaikudi mani . Trichur Mohan is the father of Trichur Brothers.

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Dear Shri. CRama, you don't know what a great favor you have done to me! I must have listened to this concert 100s of times. Thank you for making this concert alive forever!

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TRS - 4 years post Oct 04th,2013
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I went to Prof TRS home to pass last respects on October 05th,2013 after he passed away on October 04th,2013. I asked his sister what does TR stand for in his name TRS. She told Tiruvidaimarudhur Rajagopalan Subramanyam. When she told that the phrase T stands for tiruvidaimarudhur , it just immediately gave me a spark O my god TRS mama name starts with Tiruvidaimarudhur .It is the same place where Flute Mali was born. Tiruvidaimarudhur is a hamlet in between Kumbakonam and mayavaram . TRS mama was a born musician from tiruvidaimarudhur . I still donot know where TRS was born as only the first initial stands for tiruvidaimarudhur? Can some one tell me that , may be it was tiruvidaimarudhur.

Mahavidwan TRS moved from that hamlet Tiruvidaimarudhur(also getting tutored in bigger towns like mayavaram & kumbakonam) area to Tirunelveli . What can I say atleast when I grew up and even now I believe that those who are from tirunelveli have an extra intellect. I have seen myself - few friends from my college / school belt who are very brainy and the reason is always they are from trinelveli. These kind of groupings associating with places is no more logical in todays world but it is just there where few believe .

What can I say the born musician(tiruvidaimarudhur) became an intellect musician(Tirunelveli).

Mahavidwan TRS moved from Tirunelveli to vijayawada. WHile the whole galaxy of musicians sang mainly in Madras/partly bangalore/ partly trivandrum and went to tiruvayaru to pay yearly respects to flagship vageyakkarA sadhguru Thyagaraja . mahavidwan TRS thought let me first get sadguru Thyagaraja right and concentrate atleast primarily in the flagship language telugu . With that focus he was mistaken as andhra(telugu native) musician .In vijayawada he began to think deep.

May be i can say the born musician (tiruvidaimarudhur) transformed from intellect musician (tirunelveli) to be a deep thinking musician (vijayawada)

Mahavidwan TRS moved from vijayawada to Delhi. All the musicians did mainly go to Delhi to receive an award like padmashree , natak academy etc and possibly head to few sabhas like RK Puram malai mandir , Mayurvihar samajam etc. TRS mAmA became a really good CM Loksabha leader . He felt I am just one spoke in the hub , let me genuinely help in all ways all fellow established musicians , upcoming aspirants , he even partly sacrificed his own musical career for the larger good of carnatic music - a true and a rare cm-parliamentarian at delhi.The dogma of which is bigger is it carnatic music or carnatic musician must have hit him very hard but he took a right choice and became a righteous musician in welcoming so many musicians of all sizes to perform in delhi.

May be I can say the born (tiruvidaimarudhur), intellect (tirunelveli), deep thinking(vijayawada) became a righteous musician(Delhi)

Finally Mahavidwan TRS settled in madras . He enjoyed every bit of music from every vidwan and vidushis. He even at his old age carried the banner Music Education Trust and encouraged talent . Many concerts he has only sat in the first 10 rows all alone ,I have seen and heard him getting so attracted even to the last nee nAMA roopamulaku krithi and then he speaks few encouraging words to artists and then only leaves.Remember he came all the way from anna nagar - cintamani area(his residence) to mylapore/ mambalam that is a long distance. The real love for a carnatic musician is tested when he/she stops performing, and how they drop the deep rooted resentment that comes especially with madras. TRS dropped all of that he inspired the next 1 or 2 generations of musicians and at times even played the dual role of an inspiring musician and a role model rasika.

May be I can say the born (tiruvidaimarudhur), intellect (tirunelveli), deep thinking (vijayawada),righteous (Delhi) musician tranformed to a dual role of an inspiring musician and a role model rasika (chennai)

Finally few things have struck me- not to stir controversy
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# Year 1994/1995 was the controversy year where TRS mama wrote the thesis . Jhalsik(an id here) gave snippets of the thesis , i downloaded it and did not find anything wrong . My Delhi Periappa who was a close friend of TRS in Delhi thought it was not proper for him to collaborate and write that thesis . I and my periappa have vehemently disagreed , because I still think he had the guts to write on what he wrote and there is a high degree of truth. When you stear a whole gamut of problem statement you are just bound to hurt here and there few people- the price of speaking the inconveniant truth

# I googled to find that In Year 2002 Music Academy awarded Sangeetha Kala Acharya to TRS. If the thesis is so wrong , then why should the esteemed academy award sangeetha kala acharya to TRS after seven years in 2002 post his thesis. They should give him nothing right .For arguments sake SKA sets a more worse precedent as it is given for a teacher and his teaching thesis should have backfired only his teaching career award(sangeetha kala acharya) and should not have cannibalized his musical career award (sangeetha kalanidhi). In year 2002 Sangeetha kala acharya was given for TRS and Sangeetha kalanidhi was given for Sikkil Sisters. I have no qualms on Sikkil Sisters but TRS was like DKJ , Santhanam , LGJ,nedanuri , TNK etc . LGJ refused is what we all heard but I am sure TRS would not have refused SK.mahavidwan TRS did not have enough clout to push towards SK.

# In my humble opinion bit later in Year 2010 instead of giving to another musiri disciple Bombay Sisters they should have given to finest musical disciple of musiri -TRS . I am not even sure after listening to bombay sisters if they are of the calliber to even get SK, i feel i need an intermediate silencer to listen to bombay sisters. But I may be wrong there as Bombay sisters may have a lot of music which i have not heard - I will give them a benefit of doubt. May be They should have given TRS 2010 SK . Some great musicians like palakkad raghu got it late it is ok as long it is given it is wonderful . Possibly years 2013 , 2015 or 2017 the SK could have been given to Bombay Sisters .

Thank you TiruvidaiMarudhur Rajagopalan Subramanyam - your stock mrudangist Kamalakar Rao used to call you Taaala Raaga Swaroopan. As I told must number of times to TRS mama, I can repeat again one more time - neenga summa summa gnb is a great musiciannnu sollindE irukkadingO you are also a great musician.

Hear the immortal TR Subramanyam(Born 20 September 1929 - Died 04 October 2013) singing a composition dedicating to Lord Subramanyam

Kanda Bhaktha Cinthamani (N,S)- dharmavati - Koteeswara Iyer
neraval in dharmavati umaiyAl tanda maindA for 7 mins
swaras for 7 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-xQ0IQ95Y4
Thank you Prakash Rao Narayanan for the upload of a vidwan whose house is near chintamani bus stop.

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Rajesh, Thank you for posting the reminiscences about TRS on this day- the day he left us four years back. We miss him a lot. But his music - plenty of them are available with us. On October 10th, his Remembrance day is going to be held in Arkay Hall with a violin concert by Smt T.Rukmini who paired with him in innumerable concerts.

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rajeshnat wrote: 04 Oct 2017, 07:17 --------------------------------------------------------
# Year 1994/1995 was the controversy year where TRS mama wrote the thesis . Jhalsik(an id here) gave snippets of the thesis , i downloaded it and did not find anything wrong . My Delhi Periappa who was a close friend of TRS in Delhi thought it was not proper for him to collaborate and write that thesis . I and my periappa have vehemently disagreed , because I still think he had the guts to write on what he wrote and there is a high degree of truth. When you stear a whole gamut of problem statement you are just bound to hurt here and there few people- the price of speaking the inconveniant truth
Is there an ecopy of this thesis or if you have it can you please send it to me? Thanks.

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