DK Pattammal

anandabhairavi · Post by **anandabhairavi** » 29 Jul 2009, 12:59

I am in tears

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 29 Jul 2009, 13:34

That piece touched me very deeply... have saved it to read again.

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 29 Jul 2009, 18:14

rshankar wrote:I found Sri Ishwaran's comment to be particularly poignant.

Indeed.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 29 Jul 2009, 20:48

cienu
Thanks for bringiing the words of Easwaran ! I was really wondering how that nonagenarian was taking the loss of his beloved wife! It is a poignant lesson for all of us moving in that direction!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 29 Jul 2009, 21:09

CML, yes, that line shook me up pretty well, I could not do anything else for half an hour except to sit still, let it sink in, blow out and reflect. That powerful and highly personal statement tells me 'It is all about that'.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 29 Jul 2009, 21:43

Every time a CM Icon disappears we express our grief and state how much CM will miss their loss. We tend to forget the pillars on which those icons were built. There would not have been a DKP were it not for Easwaran. As much as there would not have been a MS were it not for Sadasivam. We often fail to express an adequate measure of gratitude to the 'pillars'. I am sure in the midst of their irreparable loss it will be soothing for them to know how much we are indebted to them for the sacrifices they have made to gift us those beloved icons who we cherish.

Milton said most appropriately

They also serve who only stand and wait

Let me add accordingly along with the message of condolence to Easwaran our undying gratitude to him for supporting and shaping DKP over the years and presenting her to us CM Rasikas.

poojapac · Post by **poojapac** » 29 Jul 2009, 21:49

Yes, DKP was my guru's sister's mother-in-law.

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 31 Jul 2009, 08:03

Article about DKP singing for films
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2009/07/31/stor ... 540100.htm

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 31 Jul 2009, 12:18

cmlover, that is not only a very great point, but expressed with true humanity too.

I probably know less of the stories of such lives as DKP and other great artists of her generation than most of my co-rasikas, but it has occurred to me that, having overcome the orthodox background to take to the stage, all might have been lost without a husband that supported her. We are, indeed, very much indebted.

knandago2001 · Post by **knandago2001** » 31 Jul 2009, 14:17

Nithyasree on DKP
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2009/07/31/stor ... 190200.htm

semmu86 · Post by **semmu86** » 31 Jul 2009, 19:26

nick H wrote: I probably know less of the stories of such lives as DKP and other great artists of her generation than most of my co-rasikas, .

Nick , i suggest you read a book called " carnatic summer " by Sri.V.Sriram ( think you should be aware of this ) and that book has some amazing info about great musicians.

Sorry for deviating from the topic friends..

Arvind...

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 31 Jul 2009, 21:30

mohan wrote:Article about DKP singing for films
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2009/07/31/stor ... 540100.htm

Is there a recording of the songs listed by Radnor Guy?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 31 Jul 2009, 22:48

I do not think she got the kind of recognition she deserved. She was not just a musician, but a patriot and freedom fighter who used her art to propagate the struggle for Indian independence. She was unmarried then and people like Rajaji used to warn her not to do that as there was a chance of her getting arrested. But nevertheless she persevered and that too throughout her life. It is painful to see such relentless commitment go unnoticed. There was not even a State funeral. Remember, she is a recipient of the Padmavibhushan, points out an agitated Nithyasree.

It is heart-rending to read these comments by Nityasree. DKP is indeed a great patriot along with being a pioneer woman of the upper caste in CM. I personally knew and experienced how emotive her songs were during the Freedom movement. She took enormous risks singing those songs in rallies which was considered a treason punishable by death. Though she herself was not arrested there were several who sang after her fashion were arrested and beaten brutally. While those who actively supported the British and requested them not to grant independance are hailed as the Father of the country it is indeed shameful that DKP (just because she belonged to the wrong caste) has not been adequately recognized or even accorded a State Funeral!

Again DKP's service to Tamil in CM is enormous. It was she who breathed life into several songs of Bharathi as well as those of P Sivan. Those were the times when senior vidvaans used to walk out of CM concerts when Tamil songs were sung! I wish DKP had beeen adequately recognized by the Tamil community during her Final Journey. Perhaps they did, but living far away I have not seen it !

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 01 Aug 2009, 00:25

"She was not just a musician, but a patriot and freedom fighter who used her art to propagate the struggle for Indian independence."

I feel DKP should have been awarded the Bharat Ratna - she richly deserverd it.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 01 Aug 2009, 23:46

The following Q & A speaks millions about how the demise of DKP was received by the TN establishment

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VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 01 Aug 2009, 23:49

bigots

girish_a · Post by **girish_a** » 02 Aug 2009, 21:27

Translation please

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 02 Aug 2009, 22:41

Though it is painful I still translate for your benefit:

Q: Cho (editor of the magazine Thuklak) has said that the chief minister has not expressed condolence for the demise of the Musician D K Pattammal?
(from V Ananthi Madras-2)
A: J (Jayalalitha) has already done so, is that not enough for Cho? At least he (Cho) had this to find fault on the Doctor (CM)! Great!

(Reply by K Veeramani the leader of the DK and editor of the magazine 'viDuthalai')

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Aug 2009, 01:56

It is never too late...
Forgetting for a moment her immense imprint on CM, forgetting the kind of human being she was, but just for the sake of her singing with fervor those great tamizh songs! For the way she sang every tamizh word in a crystal clear manner so that even a child could learn to sing those songs without making a mistake. For awakening a sense of patriotism among us by singing tamizh songs-- she needs to be honored by tamizh nADu.
avaL oru tamizhum pATTum vaLarta tAi (she was a mother figure who nourished tamizh and tamizh songs). I have no doubt MK and other leaders of TN hummed ADuvOmE paLLu pADuvOmE, veTRi eTTu dikkumeTTa, tonRU nigazhndadu, cinnanjiru kiLiyE and the countless songs they heard from all radios in the neighborhoods that they grew up in, the way they lined up to see movies like nAm iruvar.
When the government lavishes money on festivals and art projects of all kinds, it surely has to honor DKP by making her contributions known to future generations by celebrations every year with a festival, offering scholarships and offer studies of women like her, MS, MLV, KBS, other greats among men like SuddhAnanda bHArati, MMD and others, whose contributions to tamizh by way of muic is immense.
It is not necessary to have a statue in DKP's memory. Let there be living memorials for her kind so that their service to tamizh by way of music is well-recognized and this rich heritage is made available to the coming generations.
Ah, BArati who sang of freedom and the freedom of women. And the song birds who immortalized his verses!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 03 Aug 2009, 03:08

Well said arasi! She is a women liberationist too in a sense Bharati defined. The irony is that MK himself comes from a family with CM connections (I heard he trained to play nadaswaram as a boy!). It is in a way hilarious that MK who extols DK, belonging to DMK is failing to recognize DK P

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Aug 2009, 04:03

Let's be hopeful. His daughter Kanimozhi was trained in vINai and shows quite a bit of interest in CM. She is powerful too. Hope she exerts her influence both at home and in the cultural scene.

vainika · Post by **vainika** » 03 Aug 2009, 09:23

And one more on DKP titled 'Matriarch of music' by Gowri Ramnarayan
in the current Frontline (Volume 26 - Issue 16 :: Aug. 01-14, 2009)
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/2 ... 609900.htm

Was particularly moved to read the following

The problem of "Who will marry a girl who performs in public?"

Gamakam · Post by **Gamakam** » 07 Aug 2009, 14:35

My tribute to pattammal: http://www.thamizhstudio.com/isai_14.htm & http://www.thamizhstudio.com/isai_15.htm

S.Rajam speaks on Pattammal: http://varalaaru.com/Default.asp?articleid=902

s_hari · Post by **s_hari** » 07 Aug 2009, 16:45

gamakam - well written articles. Keep writing

-hari

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 07 Aug 2009, 20:00

gamakam
simply fascinating. Please share more of your writings. There are gems of information I have never heard before. Also share anecdotes that you know of other musical giants separately.

Many thanks...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 07 Aug 2009, 20:55

gamakam,
Very well written tribute to DKP.
Went through your blog and was happy that you are here on the forum. Though called tamizhstudio, your blog includes other aspects of the arts too. I am going to learn quite a few new tamizh words! The format and the 'get up' of the blog is tastefully done. Thanks.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 07 Aug 2009, 21:34

gamakam
if you are lalitha ram then 'arasi' (our resident poet) will indeed give you a red carpet welcome to the forum..
Not that I do not join her in bidding you a warm welcome...

sramaswamy · Post by **sramaswamy** » 07 Aug 2009, 22:01

Gamakam

Excellently written article in a very professional way without too many hyperbole. Loved reading it especially as it is in Tamil. Is the entire site your blog? Amazing. I will try to go through other sections.

P.S. Just thought that I will point out a minor thing. The next (aduthu) from the first page still points to the same page instead of next page. It will be nice if it is corrected.

Gamakam · Post by **Gamakam** » 07 Aug 2009, 22:21

s_hari, cmlover, arasi, sramaswamy thanks for the encoraging words.

thamizhstudio is not entirely my blog. It is a portal for arts and cinema run by my friend. I write a weekly column on music. I also occasionally write on my blog http://carnaticmusicreview.wordpress.com/

cmlover: I'm Lalitha Ram. I've written a biography on GNB for vikatan publications.

I guess I can't blow my own trumpet any louder. Thanks again for the welcome.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 07 Aug 2009, 23:02

Thanks for that blog ref! Quite interesting....

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 08 Aug 2009, 04:03

Very good! I would encourage him to do so. His writing style is quite refreshing.
My apologies for mistaking the sex...

( Mod note: GNB related posts have been moved to http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... nb-p8.html )

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 08 Aug 2009, 07:56

Well, I like 'his' writing too.

CML,
Thanks for thinking of me and about my wish that more women get interested in participating on the forum.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 08 Aug 2009, 12:47

gamakam(lalitha ram)
I have not had time yet to read your latest blog, since it is in thamizh I need more time to read , assimilate to understand despite thamizh being my mother tongue. One of the finest articles you had written about few years before was about GopAlakrishna bHarathi . That was just a top class one.

kedharam · Post by **kedharam** » 09 Aug 2009, 00:45

Moderators can move this discussion abt gamakam's book to GNB tread

( Done. http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... nb-p8.html )

neelotpal.m.s · Post by **neelotpal.m.s** » 18 Aug 2009, 20:01

It seems to me that 'Mamava Pattabhirama' was composed by Sri Dikshitar for D.K.P.amma to render.As she renders each line the coronation of SriRama is conjured in front of our eyes.Indeed she is born to show to the world the majestic swells and magnificence of Dikshitar Kritis to the world.Like MS amma for Annamacharya,MLV amma for Purandaradasa,DKP amma for Dikshitar.Just experience her 'Pahimam Ratnachalanayaka' in mukhari.Her 'sowkhyam' in rendering is her hallmark.

girish_a · Post by **girish_a** » 18 Aug 2009, 21:31

Does anyone have recordings of DKP from her younger days? Except the Shyamala Dandakam, I haven't heard any other recording.

s_hari · Post by **s_hari** » 21 Aug 2009, 19:43

girish - You need to listen to her Yaro Ivar yaro in Bhairavi and Kamakshi in Bilahari!!! Try in hummaa.com

http://www.hummaa.com/music/album/D%20K ... amal/19862

-hari

ambika.sundaram · Post by **ambika.sundaram** » 18 Sep 2009, 17:49

I had the opportunity to wish her and watch a few of her performances in Chennai ...... Her "Ragam Thanam Pallavi" ..... Ohhh ..... I have no words to say ......

A too humble lady ..... We all are missing you Amma .....

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 28 Sep 2009, 16:50

Radhika-Rajnarayan · Post by **Radhika-Rajnarayan** » 28 Sep 2009, 16:58

neelotpal.m.s wrote:It seems to me that 'Mamava Pattabhirama' was composed by Sri Dikshitar for D.K.P.amma to render.As she renders each line the coronation of SriRama is conjured in front of our eyes.Indeed she is born to show to the world the majestic swells and magnificence of Dikshitar Kritis to the world.Like MS amma for Annamacharya,MLV amma for Purandaradasa,DKP amma for Dikshitar.Just experience her 'Pahimam Ratnachalanayaka' in mukhari.Her 'sowkhyam' in rendering is her hallmark.

We grew up listening to that rendition of 'Mamava Pattabhi rama' on a 78 rpm record. All of us practically know that kriti by heart just by listening to those records umpteen times in our younger days.
How sad it is that we need to correct the above post to read ' Indeed she WAS born....' and 'her sowkhyam in rendering WAS her hall mark' ...that is when the full impact - that she is no more, strikes you. This year has been particularly cruel to Indian music.

cpblog · Post by **cpblog** » 10 Dec 2009, 23:36

Posted a 1976 Concert of DKP-DKJ in "Parvathi" Mysore during the RamaNavami celebrations honoring Chowdiah at http://chowdaiahandparvati.blogspot.com/

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 30 Apr 2010, 21:23

A nice write-up of touching tributes: http://www.hindu.com/fr/2010/04/30/stor ... 280200.htm

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 11 Jan 2011, 12:45

With reference to my post # 170, it appears that the old link has a problem.
Please find a new link for the same article.
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2616/st ... 609900.htm

smala · Post by **smala** » 11 Jan 2011, 13:22

thanks for reproducing the frontline tribute.

venkatakailasam · Post by **venkatakailasam** » 14 Jan 2011, 22:58

A song that touched me was :

Padma Vibhushan DK Pattammal-Thamarai malar ondru kandenThilong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R_gfIlJ-0o

This Song was composed by Kavi Kannan on Maha Periava and popularised by Smt DKP

venkatakailasam

tkb · Post by **tkb** » 14 Feb 2011, 13:15

I happened to tune in to DD Podhigai today around 1130am and was surprised to see the progarm titled "Rasikapriya" anchored by Smt. Bhuvana Venkatesh. I was happy to know that it was an interview with Smt. DKP amma and for quiet some time i was totally struck to tv not knowing what was happening around! Then i realised i could have at least recorded it in my digital camera and all i could record was just the krithi Sri Parthasarathy in Suddha Dhanyasi sung by this Legendary Musician! I am sure this would be available in full length some where! but just to share my joy of having seen this programme i thought of uploading whatever i ahd recorded. You can view it in the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAFTPm1MFa4

DKP amma was talking about her early days of singing, her experience of learning couple of krithis from Sri Ambi Dikshidar and later from Sri TLV and so on.

It is a repeat telecast and hope this series will be repeated from this Monday. If any one has any news on Podhigai programs, please inform so that many can watch this great series where many great musicians have been interviewed.

venkatakailasam · Post by **venkatakailasam** » 01 May 2011, 22:06

Smt DK Pattammal:
Jaganmohini-RTP-AnjaadaIru NamPaavangal panjai paranthidum (Song Courtesy: Kasturi Mambalam)

Please hear the superlative rendition at:

DKP 48-Jaganmohini-RTP-AnjaadaIruNamPaavangal.mp3

There are 50 songs of SMT.DKP at for listening.

http://myblogkumara.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... an_30.html

venkatakailasam

venkatakailasam · Post by **venkatakailasam** » 01 May 2011, 23:14

Shri tkb :

Sri Parthasarathy in Suddha Dhanyasi can be listened at my blog at the following link:

http://myblogkumara.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... an_30.html

Sl. No DKP 001

venkatakailaam

venkatakailasam · Post by **venkatakailasam** » 27 Jul 2012, 15:18

listen to her...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMtXsWv2 ... t_received

venkatakailasam · Post by **venkatakailasam** » 16 Apr 2013, 15:00

A rare image of DKP...

டி.கே.பட்டம்மாள். தம்பூரா இசைப்பவர் தந்தை கிருஷ்ணஸ்வாமி தீட்சிதர். அருகில் தம்பி டி.கே.நாகராஜன்.
நன்றி: பாரதியவித்யா பவன் வெளியிட்ட Ganasaraswathi D.K.Pattammal புத்தகம் ( http://solvanam.com/?p=5322 )

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