Madurai Mani Iyer

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#976 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by cacm » 04 Jan 2015, 00:42

MMI has said in private conversations that Tiruvalangadu Sundaresa Iyer (violin acc. to Vmbu Iyer)- no surprise as he was christened "SUSWARAM "T.S.I."- He was present when he was not playing some other concert either on the stage or in the audience....PSP' INSTINCTIVE ABILITY to INNOVATE in the DIFFICULT Savalaghu style of M.M.I. were his FAVOURITES & these are KNOWN FACTS!....VKV
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#977 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by shripathi_g » 04 Jan 2015, 01:46

Very true. One only has to listen to MMI's Academy concert with LGJ and PSP (Vasudevayani, Thaye Yasodha, Nagumomu) to get a flavor of Pazhani's playing for MMI. The music produced in that concert is one of divine proportions. I've listened to it hundreds of times and I find something new every time I listen to it. The RTP-Kamboji in that concert is probably one of the best Kambojis ever sung.
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#978 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by cacm » 04 Jan 2015, 04:59

LIKE MMI ANY ONE WHO HEARD PALANI & PSP IN PERSON CANNOT ERASE THE DIVINE NADHAM PERFECTION AND TECHNICAL VIRTIUOSITY OF BOTH OF THEM. THOSE SOUNDS ARE THE BEST IN THE COSMOS! I CONSIDER IT AS THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY LIFE. I have been fortunate to meet& know MANY GIANTS IN VARIOUS FIELDS INCLUDING close to 30 NOBEL LAURATES IN PHYSICS starting with the GOD OF PHYSICS OF INDIA SIR C.V.RAMAN HIMSELF.
THE ONLY HOPE FOR HUMANITY IS MORE PERSONS OF THIS CALIBRE.........VKV
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#979 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by KNV1955 » 04 Jan 2015, 11:51

CACM Sir Met 30 Nobel Laurates in Physics & Giants in Carnatic Music. My God. Romba Punniyam Pannerkel. ( You have done lot of Punniyam in previous birth). I have not met you in person except saw you in North American Music Festival at Raga Sudha Hall where you spoke . Feel blessed knowing you thro this forum. Ariyakudi/GNB/Madurai Mani Iyer/Palghat Mani Iyer/Palani Subramnia Pillai/TR Mahalingam (Except for one concert of Ariyakudi & GNB & a few concerts of Palghat Mani Iyer with KVN) I have not heard any of the other greats directly. My uncle speaks very highly of Madurai Mani Iyer music. Hearing directly is altogether a different experience from hearing in tapes. Only now I have started listening to these great artists. I am still waiting eagerly for your article on Dr Brown. Pl oblige for the sake of this forumites.
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#980 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by hnbhagavan » 04 Jan 2015, 13:10

Dear shripath_g,
I would like to know whether the MMI concert u are referring to is available in sangeethapriya?
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#981 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by Ramasubramanian M.K » 04 Jan 2015, 20:03

KNV1955/VKV, Like VKV I was extremely fortunate in growing up and intimately associating(thanks to my parents) with these stalwarts when they were in full form--each of these vocalists had their individual unique style and the accompanists--PMI,PSP too--all of them GRACIOUS beyond description both to their fellow artistes irrespective of their age, and total deference to the audience--admittedly although speaking for myself our "Gnanam" at that age was nowhere near the gnanam of the young rasikas of today and as such younger rasikas might tend to question our competence and assessment !!nevertheless I stand by my steadfast admiration of these artistes--in fact I would squarely " blame" these vocalists for my not formally "learning" vocal music--- for I was afraid I would be forced to restrict myself to one Bani(the artistes in those days were particular about this aspect) and thereby lose many listening opportunities!!!
Needless to say the CM World has been better served by my judicious exercise of discretion and abstinence!!!!!
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#982 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by shripathi_g » 04 Jan 2015, 22:03

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#983 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by cacm » 05 Jan 2015, 08:19

KNV1955 wrote:CACM Sir Met 30 Nobel Laurates in Physics & Giants in Carnatic Music. My God. Romba Punniyam Pannerkel. ( You have done lot of Punniyam in previous birth). I have not met you in person except saw you in North American Music Festival at Raga Sudha Hall where you spoke . Feel blessed knowing you thro this forum. Ariyakudi/GNB/Madurai Mani Iyer/Palghat Mani Iyer/Palani Subramnia Pillai/TR Mahalingam (Except for one concert of Ariyakudi & GNB & a few concerts of Palghat Mani Iyer with KVN) I have not heard any of the other greats directly. My uncle speaks very highly of Madurai Mani Iyer music. Hearing directly is altogether a different experience from hearing in tapes. Only now I have started listening to these great artists. I am still waiting eagerly for your article on Dr Brown. Pl oblige for the sake of this forumites.
DEAR SRIKNV,
I consider KVN& BOB BROWN TO BE IN THE PANTHEON OF GODS OF CARNATIC MUSIC. I WROTE 4 DIFFERENT VERSIONS. FEEL I HAVE DRAGGED ON TOO MUCK. BY 26TH JAN IPROMISE TO PUBLISH IT HERE. HAPPY NEW YEAR. VKV
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Post by cacm » 05 Jan 2015, 10:57

new1 wrote:For his 100th birth anniversary, it will be nice to have a book brought out that has observations/articles by people that have known and observed him closely. My own father has heard numerous concerts of his when MMI was at his peak as well as when he was weak and ravaged by illness, and often talks about them.
This could be accompanists that are still around as well as ordinary rasikas and the knowledgeable ones. With the passage of time, we will only have left with us recordings of his music and nothing else as those who have seen him in flesh and blood will also be no more.
Talking of recordings, a systematic cataloging of them would also be nice. I saw a nice excel spreadsheet in sangeethapriya posted by someone, that has concert dates, venues, accompaniments etc. If we can match that to known/available recordings, we will have a nice way of organising his music over time. I tried matching that sheet with what I have through downloads and from vkv sir but given my knowledge limitations it is difficult. For instance I would not know if the violinist is LGJ or TNK or MSG unless it is mentioned in the mp3 file. Some others will know it offhand. Same goes for mridangam. If available downloads/recordings are numbered or cataloged I think that will enhance their appeal and rasikas can see them in the context of the periods they were recorded.
Efforts by vkv sir and others to collect his recordings and distributing them are acts of great 'punyam' that cannot be described in words.
It is somewat easy bec THEY ALL HAD UNIQUE BOWING STYLES. MMi found 1/2Kattai HIGHER WAS BETTER FOR MSG. HE adjusted to EVERY ACCOMPANIST UNIQUELY! VKV
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Post by cacm » 05 Jan 2015, 10:58

new1 wrote:For his 100th birth anniversary, it will be nice to have a book brought out that has observations/articles by people that have known and observed him closely. My own father has heard numerous concerts of his when MMI was at his peak as well as when he was weak and ravaged by illness, and often talks about them.
This could be accompanists that are still around as well as ordinary rasikas and the knowledgeable ones. With the passage of time, we will only have left with us recordings of his music and nothing else as those who have seen him in flesh and blood will also be no more.
Talking of recordings, a systematic cataloging of them would also be nice. I saw a nice excel spreadsheet in sangeethapriya posted by someone, that has concert dates, venues, accompaniments etc. If we can match that to known/available recordings, we will have a nice way of organising his music over time. I tried matching that sheet with what I have through downloads and from vkv sir but given my knowledge limitations it is difficult. For instance I would not know if the violinist is LGJ or TNK or MSG unless it is mentioned in the mp3 file. Some others will know it offhand. Same goes for mridangam. If available downloads/recordings are numbered or cataloged I think that will enhance their appeal and rasikas can see them in the context of the periods they were recorded.
Efforts by vkv sir and others to collect his recordings and distributing them are acts of great 'punyam' that cannot be described in words.
It is somewat easy bec THEY ALL HAD UNIQUE BOWING STYLES. MMi found 1/2Kattai HIGHER WAS BETTER FOR MSG. HE adjusted to EVERY ACCOMPANIST UNIQUELY! VKV
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#986 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by N.R.Patanjali » 16 Jan 2015, 08:08

Yes sir. This is unique quality of MMI. He allows the accompanying artists to come to full flow. MMI is a noble and gracious artist.

N.R.Patanjali
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#987 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by N.R.Patanjali » 16 Jan 2015, 08:11

venkatakailasam wrote:Concert 279-MMI-National program
His birth day to day
Listen at:

http://myblogkumara.blogspot.in/2014/09 ... art-x.html

01-rAma_bhakti_sAmrAjya-shuddhabangALa
02-sAmaja_vara_gamanA_sAdhu-hindOLam
03-darini_telusukoNTi_tripurasundarini-shuddhasAvEri
04-mInAkSi_mEmudam_dEhi-pUrvikalyANi
Sir, This performance has been listened to by many rasikas several times. Someone remarked "MADURA MANI " while commenting on this concert.

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#988 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by venkatakailasam » 20 Jan 2015, 20:13

" This performance has been listened to by many rasikas several times.."

There are many more rasikas who have not listened to it...I am also one among them..It is for them...

If you have listened already , skip it...
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#989 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by SrinathK » 06 Mar 2015, 10:29

Hey everyone, look what I found just uploaded yesterday -- old LPs from the 1930s showing a much younger MMI (and an older style of CM itself). @cacm, VKV sir, one for you. Wonder what else is hidden in the archives of the rasika world. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl-3TMLFkC0

Madurai Mani Iyer - Kucheri Set of the 78RPM era, circa 1930s-
accompanied by Kumbakonam T.K.Jayarama Iyer-violin, Tanjore Vaidhyanatha Iyer-mridhangam & Madras Venu Naicker-kanjeera.


Sri Raghukula-Hamsadhwani,
Anuragamule- Saraswathi
Vidajalatura- Janaranjani
Marugelara-Jayanthashree
RTP_ Kalyani_Bhajare Raghuveeram
Ethani Vithangal- Virutham-Ragamaligai
Javali
Madarpirai Kanni-Thevaram-Arabhi
Thirupugaz- NIraimathi Mugam- Hamsanandhi & Mangalam
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#990 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by rajeshnat » 06 Mar 2015, 12:40

Srinath
Early 2003 or 2004 I went to BaluMMI sir who gave me 6 cds worth of ganakaladhara when I went to his halls road , egmore home .Then around 2008 or 2009. I met VKV sir who gave his entire dump of MMI . There are few in that where VKV sir has taken pains to curate and use some noise reduction software and there is one in which vkv sir has given crisp narratives about mmi. I have shared that to few relatives and friends who innocently ask me "Can i hear bit more of Carnatic Music, I am just beginning to like it ". BaluMMI and VKV are special mmi fans who were luckily born when MMI sang.

What you have shared is from raju asokan who is known to share lot of historic gems of past - particularly we owe a lot of madurai somu collections to him.Raju asokan is also part of our forum.
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#991 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by SrinathK » 06 Mar 2015, 13:22

Great to know. I can never forget my first experiences as a 5 year old listening to Maa Janaki and Sarasa Sama Daana in old cassettes. Somehow even at that age I realized those swaras were special. From then on it was always "Madhura Mani Iyer" for me.
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#992 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by cacm » 06 Mar 2015, 21:26

SrinathK wrote:Great to know. I can never forget my first experiences as a 5 year old listening to Maa Janaki and Sarasa Sama Daana in old cassettes. Somehow even at that age I realized those swaras were special. From then on it was always "Madhura Mani Iyer" for me.
Dear Srinath,
I have enormous number of MMI Concerts+ some special comments etc; Problem is TIME! I am hoping to copy ALL THE ONES I HAVE in one HD & DISTRIBUTE IT to persons like you. After CLEVELAND that will be one of my projects. I will be happy to share ANY MMI I have with any one intertested . Actually in the two dvd set I produced & distributed for the MMI Centinary the second DVD is MMI'S RECORDINGS in MP3(192sampling which I chose after listening to most things I have; I had tried to follow a rough chronological order concentrating on Chakkani raja particularly to study his changes, evolution etc as I have discussed aspects like this with a great musician & Scholar like Sanjay Subramanian & Vellore Ramabhadran etc. Depending on where you live some one may have it& you can copy it; I gave away 2000 DVDS free etc.OR if you write your address I will be happy to copy it&send you. VKV
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#993 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by SrinathK » 06 Mar 2015, 23:15

I can trust my ears with this so I'll say it : In all old LP recordings of all the past year musicians, I find a certain folksy touch (a gamaka rawness if I may say) in the way they've rendered the compositions with a greater emphasis on plainer notes -- whether this was indeed the way of singing madhyamakala or whether this was due to some compromises and rushed rendering that had to be done to fit into the 3 min LP playing time I am not sure. Later recordings tell me that the overall gamaka palette of CM has become increasingly varied and refined and the renditions are weightier -- I think the mic might have partially helped in this matter by freeing musicians from singing louder and allowing them to focus on more intricate and delicate raga phrases. A certain amount of this is also due to voices getting weightier as one grows older, but this alone wouldn't explain it. Going only by recorded music it appears on the surface of it that from the late 19th century onwards, CM has really cranked up the use of gamaka to a different level altogether. MMI as far as I have heard used many of the old phrases to unique (and melodious effect) throughout his career -- a vocal / veena style of singing (with some flute gamakas too). I could even call him the last of his kind in this particular use of gamakas and phrases.
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#994 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by cacm » 06 Mar 2015, 23:54

Dear S.K.,
I am astounded by the CORRECTNESS & SOUNDNESS OF YOUR OBSERVATIONS.Wish you could get involved in some organisation that can use your EXPERTISE. Where do you live? WE BADLY NEED YOUNGER PERSONS LIKE YOU with good taste as well as SOUND KNOWLEDGE. VKV :!: :) :D
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#995 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by Aditto » 09 Mar 2015, 21:23

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#996 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by venu sundar » 03 Apr 2015, 21:05

Inviting all

Madurai Mani Iyer Musical evening

Sri Rama Navami Trichy Manimandapam

Concert

Date: 5.4.2015, Sunday

Time: 4:30 pm to 7:30 pm

Venue: “ Vivekananda Hall”,

The P.S. High School, R.K.Mutt Road,

Mylapore, Chennai – 600 004.



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Vote of Thanks:

Chitti S.Venu

ALL ARE WELCOME

HIGH TEA AT 4:00 PM

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#997 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by venu sundar » 09 Jun 2015, 17:53

Inviting all

Madurai Mani Iyer Musical evening

47th REMEMBERANCE DAY

Concert ANCHORED BY VISHNU AND ANECDOTES BY EGMORE BALU

Date: 14th JUNE, Sunday

Time: 4:30 pm to 7:30 pm

Venue: “ Vivekananda Hall”,

The P.S. High School, R.K.Mutt Road,

Mylapore, Chennai – 600 004. CONTACRT CHITTI VENU 98413 13527
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#998 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by venu sundar » 09 Jun 2015, 18:01

கானகலாதர மதுரை மணி அய்யர் 47 ஆம் ஆண்டு நினைவஞ்சலி

மதுரை மணி அய்யர் ரசிகர்கள் சங்கம்.

நாள் : 14/6/2015

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நெரம் : மாலை 4.30 மணி முதல் இரவு 8 மணி வரை.

நிகழ்ச்சி நிரல்

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#999 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by cacm » 09 Jun 2015, 19:19

CONGRAGULATIONS for keeping the memories of GENUINE GENIUSES ALIVE....GOOD LUCK. VKV
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#1000 Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

Post by kapali » 09 Jun 2015, 22:49

Listening to Palani Subramania Pillai playing to MMI and Chowdiah in ' Manasunilpa' is Sowkhyam !
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