N.C. Vasanthakokilam

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rshankar
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Post by rshankar » 03 Nov 2005, 03:27

Does anyone have access to NCV's biography? The only reasonably detailed one is the one on Sangeetham.com by R. Guy. But I was wondering if there was one with more personal details were available: her birth, early years, and her guru(s), and when she died etc...
CML, any info??
Thanks.
Ravi
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Post by rshankar » 12 Nov 2005, 07:57

CML,
I have been itching to ask: who named her vasanthakOkilam, and why? As far as I can tell, her name was Kamakshi. Did she start performing concerts after DKP?
Thanks.
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Post by meena » 12 Nov 2005, 08:13

shankar

Nagappattinam Chandrasekaran Vasanthakokilam, yes her given name was Kamakshi acc. to Randor Guy article.
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Post by cmlover » 12 Nov 2005, 10:52

Shankar

meena may be able to give you randor guy reference. Vasanthakokilam was the stage name. Her life was really sad. She was cheated and died of penury. She has acted as the wife of Haridas in that movie with MKT. Do watch it if you have access. I have heard her in concert a few occassions and instantly fell in love. with her voice and demeanor. Fate is the hunter :](
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Post by meena » 12 Nov 2005, 12:27

shankar
reading ur post, i get the pic. that u have read the article.

heres the article if u missed or others who are interested:
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Post by cmlover » 12 Nov 2005, 20:52

meena
You are opening an old healed wound. I had clippings of most of the oldies including copies of Bapuji's precious Harijan. When I sailed to NA I left them in the custody of my relatives who without knowing the value thinking they were junk gave them away to the old-paper vender for "pEreechampazham". They also gave away my (and my dad's) precious collection of old 78 rpms. That was one of the greatest tragedies in my life :](
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Post by rshankar » 12 Nov 2005, 23:09

CML,
I understand your pain!
I wish that people like my mother who appear to be such die hard fans of NCVs had saved some memorabilia. My mother was also a fan of Savitri Gansesan, but had nothing more to tell me other than the fact that she died young and was 'marked' for greatness had she lived.

Meena,
In that Snageetham article (which was not truly very complimenntary), I think it is said that she was from Palghat: That is in variance with what you have posted: Nagapattinam....


The other inference I drew from that article on NCV on Sangeetham was the fact that 'there, but for the grace of God, and Sri Sadasivam, was Smt. MSS as well'. Because, all else being equal, it looks like it was just those two that allowed one to be elevated to the status of a veritable deity, and the other to die in penury of TB.
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Post by cmlover » 13 Nov 2005, 00:27

Shankar

here is a one-liner worth remembering:

Savitri Ganesan to MMI was like MLV to GNB!

If SG had lived MLV would have met her competition! It is our loss!
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Post by param » 03 May 2006, 21:43

I have downloaded two sets of recordings of NCVasantakokilam and would be glad to upload if anyone is interested. Pls advise
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Post by sumram99 » 03 May 2006, 23:03

Param:

Please do so. I am an admirer of her voice!
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Post by rshankar » 03 May 2006, 23:37

Param,
Please do. I am sure that CML and others (her name sake VK for one!) in addition, would be interested....
If any you have access to the songs she sang for movies, they will be appreciated as well. All I have from teh movie series is 'kalaivANi aruL purivAi'.
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Post by vasanthakokilam » 04 May 2006, 07:16

I have downloaded two sets of recordings of NCVasantakokilam and would be glad to upload if anyone is interested. Pls advise
That will be wonderful Param. Thanks.
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Post by meena » 04 May 2006, 11:08

Sorry rasikas

Smt. NCV links will NOT be u/l . - made aware its a commercial recordings. Please check carnatica.net for album purchase and details. Thanku
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Post by Lakshman » 04 May 2006, 18:49

Param: Would you be kind enough to list the songs of NCV that you have downloaded? Thanks.
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Post by param » 04 May 2006, 20:50

Lji - the songs in the compilation are:

Sundari Nannindarilo in Begada
Paamalai in Harikambhoji
Ananthanatanam in Kamboji
Sarasadhalanayana in Khamas
Yenpalli Kondeerlya in Mohanam
Yelavatharamu in Muhari
Mahalakshmi in Shankarabharanam
Thanthai Thai in Shanmukhapriya
Maaye in Tharangini
Antharangamellam in Vachaspati
Needhayaradha in Vasanthabhairavi

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Param
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Post by Lakshman » 04 May 2006, 21:35

In addition to what you have posted I have another commercial CD that has the following songs:
niddiraiyil vandu, Ashai koNDEn vaNDE, varuvAnO vana kuyilE, anda nAL ini varumO, yArO vandennai, pAngAna shOlai, tittikkum shen tamizh, kaddanuvAriki, bhArata pATTenum, kuzhalOshai kETkudammA, piLLai prAyattilE, udaya sundari, Arva tIyAl, ANDavan, kalaivANI aruL puivAi, shen tamizh Osahi and tillai sthalam.
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Post by ninjathegreat » 11 May 2006, 00:05

Are there any recordings - Commercial or otherwise - of Savithri Ganesan?

Cheers
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Post by meena » 31 May 2007, 23:14

Changed moi mind, deleted the articles i had collected and posted here :/
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Post by rshankar » 31 May 2007, 23:58

Thanks Meena for all of these links. Randor Guy is amazing with his ability to ferret out forgotten details and anecdotes.
I wonder if anyone has records of songs from krishNa vijayam and the other movies Guy mentions...
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Post by mahakavi » 01 Jun 2007, 01:19

By the way the original name of Randor Guy is Rangadorai which was anglicized to Rangu Dory and then turned into an anagram "Randor Guy."
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Post by ksrimech » 01 Jun 2007, 01:39

ma Sa subbulakSmi used to ask Randor Guy mAmA something like "endApA azhagA rangadurainnu peru vecchirukALE, adu enna Randor Guy, nannAvE illa".
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Post by meena » 01 Jun 2007, 02:07

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this is acc. to dool.com forum post:

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So i guess the story goes ... :D

There is a brief write up abt him on sify no mention abt. his name change.
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Post by arasi » 01 Jun 2007, 07:23

Thanks Meena (AND Randor Guy)!
I do think NCV was good looking! I agree with Guy when he says she was not that photogenic, but she looked lovely on the concert stage, with flowers on her hair, jasmine nestling with kanakAmbaram! I do not remember her being fat (surely, not as fat as south indian movie queens of olden days! T.R.Rajakumari--whom she was billed with in Sivakavi--definitely was of the extra-large variety!
In my view, MSS grew beautiful as she grew older, with her music and spirituality. NCV was attractive too.

Ah, and that one of a kind voice...

Lakshman,
From your list it is evident that she has sung very many thamizh kritis.
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Post by vasanthakokilam » 02 Jun 2007, 00:18

What Randor Guy does not mention is intriguing..Whatever happened to K. Subramaniam who was in Calcutta then? Did he look them up after his return? Did he play any role in NCV's subsequent entry to the cinema world. From RG's description, it did not look to be so but it is interesting that she somehow managed to get into films anyway.
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Post by rshankar » 03 Jun 2007, 02:33

Meena/Lji:
You would not by any chance have the lyrics to porumai kaDalAgiya bhUmA dEvi, would you?
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