Brinda & Muktha

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Rsachi
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#51 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by Rsachi » 03 Oct 2012, 21:13

thank you gentlemen. much obliged.
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anandmurty
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#52 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by anandmurty » 04 Oct 2012, 13:27

An aural feast - thanks indeed!

I've read that Swapnasundari learnt padams from Muktamma. Came across this youtube link of her singing and performing abhinaya to Bhamaro. Sadly, it's a truncated recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p9xIIeR ... ure=relmfu
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satyabalu
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#53 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by satyabalu » 04 Oct 2012, 14:01

* Want to know who could have composed the chittai swaram?
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RaviSri
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#54 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by RaviSri » 09 Oct 2012, 11:29

rajeshnat, I am sorry I could not reply to your query as I was out of station.

The tradition of alternate swara-sahitya singing was started by Subbraya Sastri and his son Annasami Sastri. That was followed by their disciples Kamakshi and Sundara (grandmother and mother, respectively, of Dhanammal). It was followed by Dhanammal and her sister Rupavati, then by Dhanammal's daughters Rajalakshmi-Lakshmiratnam and Jayammal-Kamakshi. It was continued by Brinda-Muktha. According to their cousin T.Sankaran, this kind of alternating helped them to take a breath in the middle without anyone noticing it. The continuity would be maintained and it was a different kind of beauty which was not to be heard from any other musician.

In Shyama Sastri, Subbaraya Sastri kritis which had swara sahityas, Brinda would sing the sahityam after the anupallavi whereas Muktha would sing the swarams. And vice-versa after the charanam. They also sang likewise in the pUrvikalyANi song of Tiruvarur Ramaswami Pilai, ekkAlathilum and the aTANA song of Mysore Sadasiva Rao, vAchAmagOcharuNDani. It requires tremendous concentration and discipline to do this, as we found out when Mukthamma taught us marivErE gati, O jagadambA, pAlinchu kAmAkShi, durusugA, ninnu sEvinchina, janani ninuvinA, srI kAmAkShi, inkevarunnAru etc. We started doing this on our own with srI kAmAkShi (vasantA) in front of Mukthamma. And to get our alternating right even in that simple swara-sahityam was none too easy. The thrill that is felt when both of them sing together such songs is something different and cannot be replicated.

Since marivErE has been uploaded, I'll see what other swara-sahitya songs I have and upload them.
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#55 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by CRama » 09 Oct 2012, 22:03

The system of singing swarams and sahithyams simultaneously by two different singers was done by Chembai also. Those who are familiar with his concerts will remember- The varnams in Kambodi and Sankarabharanam - he used to sing as pada varnams. Means he will also sing sahithyam for chitttaswaram and ettugada swarams. He will sing the swaram and his sishyas ( mostly Jaya Vijaya ) will sing the sahithyam. But it has to be accepted that in similar cases, clarity of both swaram and sahithyam will be lost. In the case of Chembai, since his voice was very powerful and the sishyas sang slighly in subdued tone, it could register well with the listners. Not so in the case of B-M music.
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#56 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by rajeshnat » 10 Oct 2012, 08:24

CRama
Any recordings of chembai .

Tx ravisri and anandmurthy
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RaviSri
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#57 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by RaviSri » 10 Oct 2012, 11:53

Here's the link to janani ninuvinA (rItigauLa) of Subbaraya Sastri sung by Brinda and Muktha. This is from the 1959 Music Academy concert.

http://archive.org/details/JananiNinuvina
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#58 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by kittappa » 10 Oct 2012, 12:24

Awesome Reetigaula RaviSri. To learn that this is a more than 50 year old recording preserved by you is overwhelming as much as the alternating swara-sahitya is. Thrilling indeed. The best Janani Ninnuvina I have ever heard.
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#59 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by archa » 10 Oct 2012, 18:10

Well said, CRama. You have hit the nail on the head. What is so awesome about this Janani Ninuvina? The rendition is quite ordinary. I have heard fabulous renditions of this kriti from Semmangudi, MLV, Bombay Sisters and many others. As for the simultaneous singing of swaram and sahityam it is no big deal and this sounds ordinary and confusing too. The weeping quality is very much discernible and has been successfully brought by them from the padam to the kriti arena.
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#60 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by CRama » 10 Oct 2012, 20:53

As requested by Rajesh, I am uploading three varnams sung by Chembai in the Chembai thread.
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#61 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by varsha » 11 Oct 2012, 13:22

The dilemma of the critic has always been that if he knows enough to speak with authority, he also knows too much making him unfit to speak with detachment
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#62 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by padavarnam » 06 Nov 2012, 12:02

Just heard that today is the birth centenary of Smt. Brinda. My humble namaskarams to this great musician.
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#63 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by venkatakailasam » 13 Nov 2012, 07:03

Here is a tribute...'Time to sing her praise '

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tam ... 091413.ece
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MaheshS
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#64 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by MaheshS » 13 Nov 2012, 19:31

“On one occasion, she stopped singing ‘varalai’ and touched upon ‘ranjani’ a few minutes. Then she said ‘ranjani’ could be tried if we could not explore the greatness of ‘varalai,’” said Mr. Janakiraman, adding that she should not just be admired, but adored.
Emphasis mine!

Isn't that supposed to be Varali? Or am I mistaken?

Another famous Hindu typo :) Very special correspondant indeed!
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#65 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by Shivadasan » 14 Nov 2012, 09:17

In the article in the Hindu, http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tam ... 091413.ece, S. Neelakantan, son of later violin maestro Thiruvalangadu Sundaresa Iyer, said Ramnad Krishnan and Thiruvavaduthurai Rajarathinam Pillai were the two musicians who absorbed the Dhanammal school style of music and popularised it through their own renderings. “She used to sing between seven and nine in the evening and there would be hardly a dozen people. Who can equal her ‘padams’ and ‘javalis’ in ‘kalyani,’ ‘bhairavi,’ ‘gowlibandhu,’ ‘begada,’ ‘saveri,’ ‘sahana’ and ‘paras,’” he said.
Prof S.R. Janakiraman, a student of Brinda, said “joints and couplings” were part and parcel of her music and she maintained continuity without a break.

If stalwarts like T.N.Rajarathnam and Ramnad Krishnan wanted to emulate the Dhanammal School there should have been something quality in it which was not available with the music greats of those days. Many stalwarts of the day who were instrumental in creating the present day modern concert style of CM had only praise for the music of TNR. I remember to have read that MSS had learnt padams from the members of Dhanammal school. Thirukkodikkal Krishna Iyer whose was held in great respect by the music community was a great fan of Dhanammal . Musiri, as the principal of CCKM kenw the importance of this tradition and valued it very much . That was why he chose Brinda and Thiruppamburam Swaminatha Pillai , both with no spectacular concert career, as teachers in CCKM event though many of the concert successful teachers of the modern concert style were running after him.

It is unfortunate people are attracted more to a brilliant cut Zircon than an ancient cut real Golkonda diamond.
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#66 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by matterwaves » 02 Feb 2013, 10:42

Prof SR Janakiraman on T Brinda's Music; He talks of couplings' in her music as shivadasan mentiones. This video is a must watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrqTMjY_kxc
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#67 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by Ramasubramanian M.K » 06 Feb 2013, 17:29

The "joints and couplings" term is a loose translation of B and M's own pithy expression--"Odukkal and Chedukkal!!.YES it is true MSS,SSI besides RK took lessons from Band M.

One of SSI's Trivandrum Academy Student--herself a gReat disciple/teacher told me this quote from SII:

When teaching the Padams himself to her,he would say in Tamil Anda Pommanatti kitte kaal le vizhundu katthindrukken--onnaiyum mathaama Paadungo--sondha sarakkai chekkadengo"--Translation: I have falln at the feet of that Woman and learnt these padams--Please do not make changes or insert your own karpanais--the tradition has to be preserved.

SSI was fully supportive of Band M's stand on this issue although many of his detractors felt that he had not used his influence with the Institutions like MA,Govt of India,to gain the legetimate recognition for the School.I know for a fact he tried and was responsible for moving them in the fifties in MA from the 9 P.M. slot to the 5 P.M. slot(when the slots were few and the senior musicians vying for the same were MANY! and when the gate colections for the 5 P.M. slot was lower for B and M those days.

Like Shivadasan,I am an unalloyed admirer of the whole DhaNAMMAL FAMILY WITH WHOM MY FAMILY HAS INTERACTED many a times and been at the receiving end of the family's taunts(justified) that they have not been properly recognized by the CM crowd. Yet in their later years they softened their stance and Mukthamma taught some of her rare gems--one of the beneficiaries was my cousin living in Bombay--she told me on my recent visit to Mumbai as to how in her last visit to Mumbaii Mukthamma -- despite her frail health --squatted on the floor despite sore knees(she was 90 or so I believe and taught her a rare padam--I forgot the name of the padam or the raga--I will get it.
MY POINT: While their pet peeves may have inhibited their willingness to share,later on they did not stint teching to students who were dedicated and who they believed would continue their tradition. One of our forumites based in Baltimore is the proud recipient of these gems and while a student he recently spent hours in Mumbai learning from my cousin some of these padams. One of these days I will get him to write more about these items!!

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RaviSri
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#68 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by RaviSri » 09 Feb 2013, 12:43

'Sruti' magazine has released the e-book on Brinda-Muktha, compiled from the issues of June, July and August 2007. These contain articles, essentially of their lives, career etc., written by us as also reminiscences by their disciples A.R.Sundaram, Vedavalli, Rama Ravi, Nandini Ramani, Nirmala Parthasarathy, S.Soumya and B.Balasubramanian.

http://sruti.com/index.php?main_page=pr ... 83564deb26
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#69 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by tyagarajadasa » 10 Feb 2013, 03:34

Ravi Sir,

Thank you so much for that!!! The article is fantastic!
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knandago2001
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#70 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by knandago2001 » 28 Jul 2013, 15:48

A nice concert from the radio archives

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JWgYiaFvc
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#71 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by rshankar » 28 Jul 2013, 20:00

Nandagopal...wonderful to see you post after a loong time. Hope all's well!
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knandago2001
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#72 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by knandago2001 » 29 Jul 2013, 15:30

RavI... Has been my pleasure at rasikas!

Incidentally, wondered if anyone had recordings / clips of Brindamma's vina recitals to share on the forum.
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#73 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by venkatakailasam » 10 Jul 2014, 09:00

Any one has the recording of

Vidulaku Mrokkeda Mayamalava gowla T Brinda..

Is it possible to share..??
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#74 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by venkatakailasam » 06 Aug 2014, 10:35

Image

Concert 245- Smt T Brinda..
Her Mukthi day 06-08-2014
Listen at:
http://myblogkumara.blogspot.in/2014/07 ... rt-ix.html

Concert details:
01-Varnam--Sami-Neepai—AnandaBhairavi
02---Hasti-Vadanaya---Navaroj-MD
03---Thyagaraja-Palayasumam---Gaula-MD
04---Chintayamam-Kanda-Mula---Bhairavi-MD
05---Sri-Dakshinamurte---Sankarabharanam-MD
06---Meenakshi-Memudam---PoorviKalyani-MD
07---Sri-Kamalambike-Sive---Sriragam-MD
08---Rama-Nee-Samanam---Kharaharapriya
09---Rama-Ika-Nannu-Brova-Rada---Sahana
10--Viruttam---Ragamalika
12---Slokam---Ragamalika
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#75 Re: Brinda & Muktha

Post by venkatakailasam » 07 Aug 2014, 07:57

brhannAyaki--AndhALi--Adi--Brinda-Mukta.
http://mfi.re/listen/dhg47uc4x62cpah/br ... -Mukta.mp3

Raga Andhali:
The raga is almost extinct today in the popular concert platform. One hopes that Andhali would get get performered with its elegant cittasvara as well in cocerts…
There are only two compositions in this raga:
brhannAyaki--AndhALi—Adi By Muthuswamy Dikshadar
This is rendered by Smt T Brinda
Pallavi
brhannayaki vara dayaki brahma-Adi janani
Ehi mudam dehi mam pahi

samashti caranam
a-ha-anta svarupini cit-rupini
Andha-ali harana cana pratapini
sahasra dala sarasi-ruha vasini
sadananda guru guha visvasini
Meaning

Pallavi :
BrhannaAyaki.Bestower of boons.The mother of Brahma and others.
come.Grant.Protect me.

Samashti Charanam :
The form of the letters beginning with ‘a’ and ending with ‘ha’ The form of cit or intelligence.The one whose feet is famous for removing ignorance.The one who dwells in the 1000-petalled lotus.The one who is affectionate to the ever-blissful guruguha.
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