Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer
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vk- out of curiosity I listened to 'jesi' portion you are debating upon, a couple of times. To me it sounded more
Bhairavi and could not trace a Kharaharapriya there. (nearest comparble to the phrase/sangatis of "Koluvai" pallavi line towards its end).
Quite intriguing, is it like the story of the blinds holding parts of the elephant...?
Bhairavi and could not trace a Kharaharapriya there. (nearest comparble to the phrase/sangatis of "Koluvai" pallavi line towards its end).
Quite intriguing, is it like the story of the blinds holding parts of the elephant...?
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Jesi is sung as : M,PM-M, G, R,GR-R, S - RSN .... --- this can be done in both ragas. But that M,PM-M, G, R,GR-R, phrase is such a key phrase in Kharaharapriya that it could give you that impression since there isn't enough of Natabhairavi out there.
Now that I've listened to it fully, unless it comes from an era when D2 didn't exist in Bhairavi, SSI's version is Natabhairavi through and through. There isn't a D2 or a S G2 R2 G2 phrase anywhere in the rendition. But there is a G2 M1 P with that wide kampita that is characteristic of Bhairavi in it, and that phrase from S N2 D1 P at some places that is sung almost exactly like Bhairavi. That's about it.
Now that I've listened to it fully, unless it comes from an era when D2 didn't exist in Bhairavi, SSI's version is Natabhairavi through and through. There isn't a D2 or a S G2 R2 G2 phrase anywhere in the rendition. But there is a G2 M1 P with that wide kampita that is characteristic of Bhairavi in it, and that phrase from S N2 D1 P at some places that is sung almost exactly like Bhairavi. That's about it.
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Thanks Srinath. That initial KHP phrase and the S N2 D1 P are what I was referring to that was throwing me off.
Interesting how NB has this delicate existence. I don't know the raga lakshana other than some vague recollections of vaLLi deva senA pati . I will listen to it again to see how much Bhairavi I sense there. My sense now is VaLLi deva senApati 's aesthetic is more aggressive and bold along the lines of its cousins like Shanmukhapriya on the other side of the madhyam divide, compared to Bhairavi's pliant and more nuanced demeanor. But I will listen to some more NB to refresh myself
I posted the link to the Ramani version. His jEsi does not sound that much KHP to me.( but then his version may be the fully morphed one in Bhairavi )
Interesting how NB has this delicate existence. I don't know the raga lakshana other than some vague recollections of vaLLi deva senA pati . I will listen to it again to see how much Bhairavi I sense there. My sense now is VaLLi deva senApati 's aesthetic is more aggressive and bold along the lines of its cousins like Shanmukhapriya on the other side of the madhyam divide, compared to Bhairavi's pliant and more nuanced demeanor. But I will listen to some more NB to refresh myself
I posted the link to the Ramani version. His jEsi does not sound that much KHP to me.( but then his version may be the fully morphed one in Bhairavi )
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In fact @vk, it sounds overall like what would happen if you took the Kharaharapriya version and replaced every D2 with D1 -- I dare say that if you tried this inf reverse, you could get away singing the whole thing in Kharaharapriya. In fact quite a few more phrases in SSI's version would be perfectly ok in Kharaharapriya too.
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Got it, Srinath.
I would expect that layering gamakas and characteristic phrases on top of the swaras would eliminate such big ambiguities and crossovers.
I listened to Bombay Jayasree rendition of vaLLi deva sEnA patE https://youtu.be/Si4k_zwqY1g
There is no KHP or Bhairavi overlap or ambiguity here. In fact, as I remembered about this song, this has a lot of aesthetic similarity to Shanmukhapriya
I would expect that layering gamakas and characteristic phrases on top of the swaras would eliminate such big ambiguities and crossovers.
I listened to Bombay Jayasree rendition of vaLLi deva sEnA patE https://youtu.be/Si4k_zwqY1g
There is no KHP or Bhairavi overlap or ambiguity here. In fact, as I remembered about this song, this has a lot of aesthetic similarity to Shanmukhapriya
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Are you sure those were the translation of manuscripts preserved at Madurai sabha? I know there was some tie-up between GOML-Madras and the Madurai sabha way back in late 1950 s and they too did some transcription. This is a news to me. Now, you cannot find any more manuscripts like this in the Academy library.I think I have already mentioned that the Music Academy library has a list of Thyagaraja's compositions from the Walajapet manuscripts. I have seen it at the Academy library sometime in the 1980s. Therein chEtulAra is mentioned as being in naTa bhairavi. The list must originally have been in Telugu script but the Academy copied it from Saurashtra Sabha, Madurai and transcribed the list into English.
I raised this doubt as sattaleni dinamu is mentioned as Naganandhini in the book by Sri. Chinnasamy Mudaliyar. Secondly, in a book by Sri SA Ramasvamy Iyr, the raga for sattaleni is mentioned as Nagananhini an chetulra as Karaharapriya. He was a disciple of both Valajapet Krishnasvamy Bhagavathar and Umayapluram Krishna an Sundara Bhagavathar.
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Yes I am sure about this.Because I asked SRJ about this sometime after I saw the MS in the library and he assured me that it was indeed the Walajapet list from the Madurai Saurashtra Sabha.Are you sure those were the translation of manuscripts preserved at Madurai sabha?
One thing we will have to remember is that Thyagaraja did not name his ragas. This was done much later by probably several people including the direct disciples. The confusion arises perhaps from this.
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WOW! That is something I did not know. A major difference between him and say, Sri Muttusvami Dikshitar, right?RaviSri wrote:One thing we will have to remember is that Thyagaraja did not name his ragas.
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Does it mean that he did not give a raga mudra in the songs or that he sang regardless of what raga it might be? The comments I hear about how he has started thodi krithis in different swaras etc. seem to rule out the latter possibility. Who named the ragas he introduced?
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It is sad that we have lost those translations.
Yes,he didn't reveal the name of apoorva ragas. It doesn't mean he is unaware of the ragas or not interested in adhering to the lakshana of any particular raga. Later disciples named those songs by referring to lexicons that they had.
I too agree that there might have been a confusion in naming the ragas.
This problem can be solved either by referring to the notations of the direct disciples or by referring to the book in which these disciples were involved by a third party.
In the examples I cited, one was written by the direct disciple (SA Ramasvamy Iyer) and the one by a third party involving the direct disciple (AM Chinasvamy Mudaliyar). There is no discrepancy in both the versions.
Also in the transcripts of Valapet manuscripts, I remember seeing as Naganandhini and Shadvidamargini.
Yes,he didn't reveal the name of apoorva ragas. It doesn't mean he is unaware of the ragas or not interested in adhering to the lakshana of any particular raga. Later disciples named those songs by referring to lexicons that they had.
I too agree that there might have been a confusion in naming the ragas.
This problem can be solved either by referring to the notations of the direct disciples or by referring to the book in which these disciples were involved by a third party.
In the examples I cited, one was written by the direct disciple (SA Ramasvamy Iyer) and the one by a third party involving the direct disciple (AM Chinasvamy Mudaliyar). There is no discrepancy in both the versions.
Also in the transcripts of Valapet manuscripts, I remember seeing as Naganandhini and Shadvidamargini.
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Hi ,
Is there a recording of semmangudi signing viriboni ?
Thanks
Raghu
Is there a recording of semmangudi signing viriboni ?
Thanks
Raghu
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I wish I had listened to him atleast once , only heard him speak. Lovely tribute by VVS on the doyen semmangudi
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday ... 911456.ece
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday ... 911456.ece
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Notations for two songs ( given in the 40-s) by Semmangudi ( in Tamil)
http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2016/07/80.html
http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2016/07/80.html
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A brief biograpahy of SSI in Tamih by V Sriram (from twitter):
http://ippodhu.com/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%86%E ... %E0%AF%8D/
http://ippodhu.com/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%86%E ... %E0%AF%8D/
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Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer singing simmhendramadhyamam (natajana by KV Srinivasa Iyengar). SSI singing simmhendra madhyamam is a rare rendition and I assume since it had to be recorded in a 78 rpm in circa 1930's, semmangudi raced more than his usual electric speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPG8Ym5K1tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPG8Ym5K1tw
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I would like to know who the accompanying musicians are in this concert:
https://www.sangeethamshare.org/muralid ... Concert-2/
I found the same Anandabhairavi song here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pkuSGJeo1g
Thanks.
https://www.sangeethamshare.org/muralid ... Concert-2/
I found the same Anandabhairavi song here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pkuSGJeo1g
Thanks.
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The violinist is T N Krishnan, not sure about the mridangam.kraghu wrote: ↑01 Aug 2017, 06:46 I would like to know who the accompanying musicians are in this concert:
https://www.sangeethamshare.org/muralid ... Concert-2/
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OK, I am going to put my head out and say Trichy Sankaran. Can anyone confirm one way or the other please?MaheshS wrote: ↑01 Aug 2017, 19:13The violinist is T N Krishnan, not sure about the mridangam.kraghu wrote: ↑01 Aug 2017, 06:46 I would like to know who the accompanying musicians are in this concert:
https://www.sangeethamshare.org/muralid ... Concert-2/
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Definitely not Shri. Trichy Sankaran. Shri UKS it is.
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Found an inspiring rendition by disciples :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wcU40xEDuo - cEtah SrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd7LwfWLPhI - YK svarajati
and that should float up other such videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wcU40xEDuo - cEtah SrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd7LwfWLPhI - YK svarajati
and that should float up other such videos.
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Thanks for pointers to the excellent renditions by the disciples of SSI. There are the three swarajatis and Chetasree. I could spot PSN,VS, Palai Ramachandran, P.R.Kumarakerala Varma, Sitha Rajan, Kalyani Sharma (my guess). Any body to identify the artistes. One person sitting in the balcony very much looked like SSI. Is he his son.
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@Ramasubramanian M.K , hearing this varNam for the first time! Here: https://youtu.be/pq_0fqDuVHs?t=46Ramasubramanian M.K wrote: ↑05 Sep 2010, 19:51 TKI was born in Marathurai near Pandanallur.TKI had his early training in music under his father and later with Kothavasal Venkatrama Iyer a renowned composer of Tana Varnams( Jalajakshi in Hamasadhwani,Sarasuda in Saveri,Era Na Pai--I always thought this was Patnam Subramania Iyer's-forumites need help in clarifying this--, and some lesser known varnams like Swami Ninne Nata and Ninne Kori in Gowla--have any of the forumites heard the last 2 varnams and if so who has sung them?).
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@Jigyaasa - This varnam is not by Kothavasal Venkatrama Iyer OR Patnam Subhramanya Iyer. This is by TK Govinda Rao. Kothavasal has composed a varnam with the same starting words, but it starts as R-G-M-RS and is dedicated to Venkatesa, not Parthasarathy.
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A month back or so I just heard thru grapevine or thru Lalitharam(now not recollecting the source ) that Semmangudi in 2001 performed in a concert in indira nagar , madras . I am not sure if he sang or just spoke etc. I was told the musical supernova semmangudi did the honours in indiranagar to mark the occassion of 80th birth day celebrations of the famous patron Ananda Lodge Kittappa from Tanjore . By any chance since the year was just 2001, did any of the forumites attend this , by any chance do you vaguely recollect what he sang and all his accompanists . I am also assuming the indiranagar could have been hamsadhwani sabha .Semmangudi was 93 years in 2001 and he moved on in 2003. Even small nuggets of first hand experience of that semmangudi day in 2001 would be great.
Ravisri,
Making a small hunch that you may know some thing about 2001. Any one else other than ravisri can also add
Pratyaksham Bala,
Any detective work on semmangudi 2001 - indira nagar will help.
Ravisri,
Making a small hunch that you may know some thing about 2001. Any one else other than ravisri can also add
Pratyaksham Bala,
Any detective work on semmangudi 2001 - indira nagar will help.
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For detailed info on this concert, please check from Post #18 to #24 at –
viewtopic.php?t=23280
As indicated in Post #24, our fellow member Shri M.R.Nathan may be able to help upload the concert.
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PB,
Thanks that was semmangudi-vvs-rajamani@Ananda Lodge kittappa 80 (Indira Nagar, Chennai)on year 2001.
M r nathan ,
If u are in the forum seen this post do post the song list and also recording . If u have difficulty to convert and upload
please send me a private mail. Please post reply to my query
Thanks that was semmangudi-vvs-rajamani@Ananda Lodge kittappa 80 (Indira Nagar, Chennai)on year 2001.
M r nathan ,
If u are in the forum seen this post do post the song list and also recording . If u have difficulty to convert and upload
please send me a private mail. Please post reply to my query
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I note that Shri M.R.Nathan had participated with just 7 posts - all in one thread on Tajore Ananda Lodge G. Kittappa. Shri Nathan's last visit to rasikas.org was on 08 Apr 2014. I wonder whether your request would catch his attention. The best option would be to try contacting him through email via rasikas.org.
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PBPratyaksham Bala wrote: ↑05 Jun 2018, 14:38I note that Shri M.R.Nathan had participated with just 7 posts - all in one thread on Tajore Ananda Lodge G. Kittappa. Shri Nathan's last visit to rasikas.org was on 08 Apr 2014. I wonder whether your request would catch his attention. The best option would be to try contacting him through email via rasikas.org.
I sent an email to M r Nathan , no clue if he will also read the private email.
Others
Any inputs on Semmangudi last concert at age 93 for Ananda lodge kittappa that was held@Indiranagar, chennai on year 2001 would be appreciated
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Airport concert by semmangudi
The user who had it on youtube has removed it . I want to listen to it a million times and more. Where can I find another version?
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Here is the link. Though wrongly listed as Bangalore concert 1971, this one is popularly known to be Airport concert held some where near Tambaram,
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sreeniva ... lore_1971/
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sreeniva ... lore_1971/
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A write up on this concert can be seen here:
https://www.livemint.com/Leisure/KA9lWU ... drone.html
https://www.livemint.com/Leisure/KA9lWU ... drone.html
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If I remember accurately, there was also a gentleman named RAGHAVA PILLAI who used to be either the 1st THAVIL player along side MeenaakshiSundaram Pillai or vice versa. He was a legendary player too! I REMEMBER my father telling us about all these maestros and not to forget he used to often say "Nobody could play a better TODI than T. N. Rajaratthinam Pillai on Nadaswaram".RaviSri wrote: ↑30 Apr 2016, 17:58 The Tiruveezhimizhalai Bros, Subramanya Pillai and Natarajasundaram Pillai, nAgaswaram maestros were known for their exquisite rendering of Thyagaraja kritis with due importance to sahitya bhava. They got their collection of Thyagaraja kritis rather in a strange way. They sent their younger brother Kalyanasundaram Pillai to Kanchipuram to do gurukulavasam under Naina Pillai. Kalyanasundaram was a student of Naina Pillai along with Brinda-Muktha, Chittoor Subramanya Pillai and N.S.Krishnaswamy Iyengar. Kalyanasundaram, when he went on leave to his village, would sing the songs to his elder brothers and they learnt it from him. For a long time Naina Pillai was not aware of this arrangement until, once, he heard the Bros play Thyagaraja kritis at a marriage. He expressed surprise to the Bros that their version of the kritis corresponded with his, upon which the Bros had to let the cat out of the bag. Naina was amazed and exclaimed, "Oh, what a way to learn!" This is only a prelude to the next moving story.
Needamangalam Meenakshisundaram Pillai who was hailed as Abhinava Nandi was the stock tavil accompanist for the Tiruveezhimizhalai Bros. Their playing of 'chEtulAra' in the company of Needamangalam was exquisite and was looked forward to by rasikas and vidvans alike. When Needamangalam died in 1946, the Bros felt they were orphaned. They stopped playing 'chEtrulAra' in their programmes. When pressed they would say that Needamangalam had taken the song away with him and that without him, their playing of the song would just resemble a skeleton.
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vasanthakokilam wrote: ↑24 Apr 2016, 23:37 A different question on the SSI rendition of Chetulara. I assume the youtube title is wrong, it is not karaharapriya but bhairavi right?
Chetulaara is definitely Bhairavi Ragam.
But the way SSI sings 'jēsi' of ''cētulāra śṛṅgāramu jēsi" sounds quite Karaharapriyaish to my ears. It is probably me, would not dare to question the doyen,
Checked the Ramani version here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6BABhzyquE and that phrase comes across more bhairavish.
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Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer-Nathajana-
78 rpm-Pts 1 & 2
upload by Sri. APKoil N Sapthagireesan
https://youtu.be/Xe4PJt-qFDE
Simmendramadhyamam Ragam
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Nathajana Paripaalaya ( mis-attributed to ThyagarajaSwami?)
composed by Sri.K.V.Srinivasa Iengar
( brother of 'Tiger' Varadhachariar?
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see @ 490 also.
Raju Asokan upload
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Nice upload by veteran Sri.APKoil N Sapthagireesan
https://youtu.be/OFu7xRUxxes
78 RPM record
Ragam-Simmendramadhyamam
'iha param' by Papanasam Sivan
sung by Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer.
78 rpm-Pts 1 & 2
upload by Sri. APKoil N Sapthagireesan
https://youtu.be/Xe4PJt-qFDE
Simmendramadhyamam Ragam
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Nathajana Paripaalaya ( mis-attributed to ThyagarajaSwami?)
composed by Sri.K.V.Srinivasa Iengar
( brother of 'Tiger' Varadhachariar?
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see @ 490 also.
Raju Asokan upload
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Nice upload by veteran Sri.APKoil N Sapthagireesan
https://youtu.be/OFu7xRUxxes
78 RPM record
Ragam-Simmendramadhyamam
'iha param' by Papanasam Sivan
sung by Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer.
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Has anyone come across Semmangudi singing the Anandabhairavi varNa sAmi nIpai by Vinai Kuppier?
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Yes, in one of his concerts at the Music Academy.
You can listen here https://shankarkrish.blog/carnatic-voca ... vasa-iyer/
It is the sixth concert with Lalgudi Jayaraman and T K Murthy; an excellent concert.
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https://youtu.be/-pkvQegWjW4 - what a concert! The kiravANI rAgam in RTP beginning is grand with all the jArus. I kept walking with it and could not stop - had a longer walk!
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Keeravani taanam is not just for humans , it is for even God. Semmangudi has a tone bit recalcitrant , not a voice that is melodious , but no loss of shruthi to me. Such voice throw and felicity , jaarus , sudden flash of brigas - he only wants to get the raaga devata all the time .shankarank wrote: ↑14 Jul 2021, 06:58 https://youtu.be/-pkvQegWjW4 - what a concert! The kiravANI rAgam in RTP beginning is grand with all the jArus. I kept walking with it and could not stop - had a longer walk!
If some one wants to hear the pinnacle of the best of best of carnatic music it is to listen semmangudi singing taanam with mrudangam. I may have heard atleast 50 times , that too when i usually like Keeravani which is simply superb for RTP. Semmangudi mostly sings only single raga RTP and he thinks that day it is either me or rather that raga chosen no distraction with ragamaliga -asura saadhakam. The melakartha 21 devathai falls at the feet of electric cheenu , especially when he sings the pallavi brahmai .... sathguru. Some times i feel why SSI is not singing that long swaras in RTP just like my another favorite who edges bit SSI , but in the whole context of the concert he keeps you engaged. Also SSI in his pallavi does not believe tri kaalam mathematics that is also bit adds to his super sharp raaga bhavam
Needless to say this 1964 concert is atleast 3 hours . Why the hell academy has reduced nowadays in the last 35 years to 2 hours and 30 mins , with that we lose musicians idea and mostly raaga bhaava of RTP is censored.
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In SrI Semmangudi I find the level of flair and singing with abandon that I see typically with Hindustani Alap or more closer to home with nAdasvara vidvans. Voice timbre issues are effectively surmounted. No 21 certainly at his feet. No 22 is a different play thing for him - but No 21 is a rAgA that exudes bhavam for me. The latter operates under the zone of how Bhairavi goes - not that they are any similar - but approach to jArus in the GAndharam have a grandeur of the same level!
Another point in that concert , his short and crisp , but a serine rItigAuLa - full of kArvais and makes the tambura pleasant to hear, fills the air with sound. Gets a reluctant applause from the audience. He makes a funny chirp of a laughter and hums with violin as though he should have sung more - some unfinished work in his mind.
Little would he know that the audience is basking and soaking in that serene treatment - poor Cheenu always looking to ensure his audience are visibly happy!
Another point in that concert , his short and crisp , but a serine rItigAuLa - full of kArvais and makes the tambura pleasant to hear, fills the air with sound. Gets a reluctant applause from the audience. He makes a funny chirp of a laughter and hums with violin as though he should have sung more - some unfinished work in his mind.
Little would he know that the audience is basking and soaking in that serene treatment - poor Cheenu always looking to ensure his audience are visibly happy!
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ref:,p-517,p-518,p-519
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Nādabhṛṅga is pleased to bring to you a wonderful concert by Vidwan Sriman Semmangudi R Srinivasa Iyer at the Music Academy, Madras, on the evening of the 31st of December, 1964. The programme details are:
Semmangudi R Srinivasa Iyer
P S Narayanaswamy - Vocal Support
T N Krishnan - Violin
Umayalpuram K Sivaraman - Mridangam
T H Vinayakaram - Ghatam
1. Mahāgaṇapatim Manasā Smarāmi - Nāṭṭa - Ādi - Muddusvāmi Dīkṣita [00:00]
(7 mins)
2.Pālayāśumām - Gauḷa - Ādi - Muddusvāmi Dīkṣita [07:20]
(8 mins)
3. Narasiṃha Māmava Bhagavan - Ārabhi - Khaṇḍa Cāpu - Mahārāja Svāti Tiruṇāḷ [15:20]
(8 mins)
4. Māmava Mīnākṣī - Varāḷi - Miśra Cāpu - Muddusvāmi Dīkṣita [25:44]
(22 min)
5. Nāma Kusumamulacē Pūjiñcē - Śrīrāga - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [47:24]
(19 mins)
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6. Vinarādā Nā Manavi - Dēvagāndhārī - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [01:06:13]
( six minutes)
7. Janani Ninnuvinā - Rītigauḷa - Miśra Cāpu - Subbarāya Śāstri [01:12:16]
(21 mins)
8. Kṣīṇamai Tirugā Janmiñcē - Mukhāri - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [01:33:55]
( six mins)
9. Muttukumaraiyyanē Bhaktarkkaruḷ - Śaṅkarābharaṇa - Tiśra Ēka (4 kaḷai) - Rāmasvāmi Śivan [01:39:35]
( 7 mins)
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10. Rāgam-Tānam-Pallavi (Brahmaivāhaṃ Kila Sadguru Kṛpayā) - Kīravāṇi - Tiśra Tripuṭa (2 kaḷai) [01:46:24]
(32 mins)
11. Tani Āvartana [02:18:41]
(12 mins)
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12. Parulannamāṭa (Jāvaḷi) - Kāpi - Rūpakam - Dharmapūrī Subbarāya [2:30:12]
(4 mins)
13. Appan Avadaritta - Kharaharapriyā - Ādi - Pāpanāśam Śivan [02:34:29]
(4 mins)
14. Maulau Gaṅgā Śaṣāṅkau (Śloka) - Rāgamālikā - Appaiyya Dīkṣita [02:38:11]
(11 mins)
15. Jagadīśa - Nādanāmakriyā - Ādi - Mahārāja Svāti Tiruṇāḷ [02:49:09]
( three mins)
16. Tillānā - Jheñjuṭṭi - Ādi - Vīṇā Śēṣaṇṇā [02:52:34]
(4 mins)
17. Enna Colli Aḻaittāl Varuvāyō - Kānaḍā - Ādi - Ambujam Kṛṣṇa [02:56:23]
(3 mins)
18. Nī Nāma Rūpamulaku (Maṅgalam) - Saurāṣṭra - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [02:59:5
(very short)
19. Maṅgalam Kosalendrāya (Śloka) - Madhyamāvatī - Vālmīki [03:00:17]
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As pointed out by a comment in youtube, the first five are in the ragams of pancharathna kruthis.
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Most songs are of about 7 mins duration ( two sides of 78 rpm record)
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He was only about 55 years young in this concert.
and the reviewers must have been toddlers then!
Goes to show that it is possible and even desirable to appreciate concert songs without being physically present there.
Without the RTP and 'Tani' , the duration would have been just 2 hours.,30 mins
Ideal
The SriRagam , Mukhari, Ritigowlai, NaadhaNaamakriya kruthis are nice compositions.
Can we now expect such reviews of the past concerts before 1968?
Nadabrunga is uploading many such
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Nādabhṛṅga is pleased to bring to you a wonderful concert by Vidwan Sriman Semmangudi R Srinivasa Iyer at the Music Academy, Madras, on the evening of the 31st of December, 1964. The programme details are:
Semmangudi R Srinivasa Iyer
P S Narayanaswamy - Vocal Support
T N Krishnan - Violin
Umayalpuram K Sivaraman - Mridangam
T H Vinayakaram - Ghatam
1. Mahāgaṇapatim Manasā Smarāmi - Nāṭṭa - Ādi - Muddusvāmi Dīkṣita [00:00]
(7 mins)
2.Pālayāśumām - Gauḷa - Ādi - Muddusvāmi Dīkṣita [07:20]
(8 mins)
3. Narasiṃha Māmava Bhagavan - Ārabhi - Khaṇḍa Cāpu - Mahārāja Svāti Tiruṇāḷ [15:20]
(8 mins)
4. Māmava Mīnākṣī - Varāḷi - Miśra Cāpu - Muddusvāmi Dīkṣita [25:44]
(22 min)
5. Nāma Kusumamulacē Pūjiñcē - Śrīrāga - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [47:24]
(19 mins)
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6. Vinarādā Nā Manavi - Dēvagāndhārī - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [01:06:13]
( six minutes)
7. Janani Ninnuvinā - Rītigauḷa - Miśra Cāpu - Subbarāya Śāstri [01:12:16]
(21 mins)
8. Kṣīṇamai Tirugā Janmiñcē - Mukhāri - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [01:33:55]
( six mins)
9. Muttukumaraiyyanē Bhaktarkkaruḷ - Śaṅkarābharaṇa - Tiśra Ēka (4 kaḷai) - Rāmasvāmi Śivan [01:39:35]
( 7 mins)
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10. Rāgam-Tānam-Pallavi (Brahmaivāhaṃ Kila Sadguru Kṛpayā) - Kīravāṇi - Tiśra Tripuṭa (2 kaḷai) [01:46:24]
(32 mins)
11. Tani Āvartana [02:18:41]
(12 mins)
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12. Parulannamāṭa (Jāvaḷi) - Kāpi - Rūpakam - Dharmapūrī Subbarāya [2:30:12]
(4 mins)
13. Appan Avadaritta - Kharaharapriyā - Ādi - Pāpanāśam Śivan [02:34:29]
(4 mins)
14. Maulau Gaṅgā Śaṣāṅkau (Śloka) - Rāgamālikā - Appaiyya Dīkṣita [02:38:11]
(11 mins)
15. Jagadīśa - Nādanāmakriyā - Ādi - Mahārāja Svāti Tiruṇāḷ [02:49:09]
( three mins)
16. Tillānā - Jheñjuṭṭi - Ādi - Vīṇā Śēṣaṇṇā [02:52:34]
(4 mins)
17. Enna Colli Aḻaittāl Varuvāyō - Kānaḍā - Ādi - Ambujam Kṛṣṇa [02:56:23]
(3 mins)
18. Nī Nāma Rūpamulaku (Maṅgalam) - Saurāṣṭra - Ādi - Tyāgarāja [02:59:5
(very short)
19. Maṅgalam Kosalendrāya (Śloka) - Madhyamāvatī - Vālmīki [03:00:17]
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As pointed out by a comment in youtube, the first five are in the ragams of pancharathna kruthis.
-----------
Most songs are of about 7 mins duration ( two sides of 78 rpm record)
-----------
He was only about 55 years young in this concert.
and the reviewers must have been toddlers then!
Goes to show that it is possible and even desirable to appreciate concert songs without being physically present there.
Without the RTP and 'Tani' , the duration would have been just 2 hours.,30 mins
Ideal
The SriRagam , Mukhari, Ritigowlai, NaadhaNaamakriya kruthis are nice compositions.
Can we now expect such reviews of the past concerts before 1968?
Nadabrunga is uploading many such
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Re: Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer
One of the reviewer wasn't born yet and wouldn't get to appreciate via recordings Semmangudi Mama until about 2002. I heard him in a doordarshan telecast once in 1990s, a speech in 1997 in a Dr. BMK concert. Also saw him helped out of an award ceremony in Chettinad Vidyashram - Jaya TV Margazhi utsavam ~ 2002. I was going to hear a Mridangam fusion by SrI Karaikudi Mani - an odd place to encounter Mama. But I did not see lot of people flocking around him - found it strange for a legendary musician. His disciple SrI TMT was walking alone out!
But I tell you, I heard enough of traditional musicians live before I could appreciate SrI Semmangudi's music. And that is important. Many of them were bridges.
But I tell you, I heard enough of traditional musicians live before I could appreciate SrI Semmangudi's music. And that is important. Many of them were bridges.
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Re: Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer
p-519
A typo?
Puzzled. The song list under reference has only 19.No 21 certainly at his feet. No 22 is a different play thing for him - but No 21 is a rAgA that exudes bhavam for me
A typo?
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Re: Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer
@Rajeshnat is referring to the mELam number!
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Re: Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer
I heard once the great semmangudi speaking in Krishna gana sabha in 1990s. That is all i could manage. He was witty cannot recollect any thing now. No luck ever to hear my top #3 carnatic vocal trinities -what can I say i dont qualify as i was not born to ever hear MMI and GNB, and even SSI was missed .
In early days of Sangeetham.com we all could have been intimated by some one . i came to know few years back for one patron by name Tanjore Lodge Kittappa , famous for being a maha paithiyam of GNB and many many musicians where SSI sang just after 2000 may be 2001 or 2002 . The occassion is for Tanjore Kittappa - 80th birthday concert , Hamsadhwani arranged it , i am guessing it should have been their indiranagar chennai venue.
I missed hearing SSI for ever. I could have bragged for rest of my life to future generations , hey you have never heard live Semmangudi but that chance I missed for ever. I think the last of best recordings available of SSI is nanganallur where the age of 88,he is singing for atleast one hour plus(I think the year is `1992- SSI was born in 1908) . That nanganallur concert SSI is taking up Sri DakshinamoorthE in shankarabharanam as main- what a phenom he was. He never compromised the depth of CM which is the key learning for future generations!!
In early days of Sangeetham.com we all could have been intimated by some one . i came to know few years back for one patron by name Tanjore Lodge Kittappa , famous for being a maha paithiyam of GNB and many many musicians where SSI sang just after 2000 may be 2001 or 2002 . The occassion is for Tanjore Kittappa - 80th birthday concert , Hamsadhwani arranged it , i am guessing it should have been their indiranagar chennai venue.
I missed hearing SSI for ever. I could have bragged for rest of my life to future generations , hey you have never heard live Semmangudi but that chance I missed for ever. I think the last of best recordings available of SSI is nanganallur where the age of 88,he is singing for atleast one hour plus(I think the year is `1992- SSI was born in 1908) . That nanganallur concert SSI is taking up Sri DakshinamoorthE in shankarabharanam as main- what a phenom he was. He never compromised the depth of CM which is the key learning for future generations!!