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Post by mohan » 11 Jul 2008, 09:13

Here is an podcast of an interview with Aruna Sairam that aired on ABC radio - recorded in Melbourne, Australia
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/ ... 080614.mp3
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Post by greatkrishna » 11 Jul 2008, 10:13

wow...what a jarring accent......

a rough mix of indian and US....
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Post by mohan » 11 Jul 2008, 10:41

There is surely an American twang there! I have never noticed it before when speaking to her in person however. Maybe it comes automatically for her when speaking to non-Indians.
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Post by shankarabharanam » 11 Jul 2008, 16:49

But it's so unnatural.. I guess artist could be natural when they give an interview...Anyone who listens to this can make out that she is trying had to push an accent...I mean there is no need to say guurruu(as she stresses in this interview), i guess foreign nationals will understand Indian accent...Artist sound funny when they speak in such forsed accents
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Post by Music » 11 Jul 2008, 21:24

There is really no need to distort the pronunciation of Indian words like guru, Thanjavur etc. Other than that I thought it was neat that she could speak in a non-Indian accent. If the program mainly had non-Indian audience, she might have reached out to them better with this accent. Some people do have the ability to change accents easily. Some of her words had an American accent, but for some she used an accent similar to the interviewer (happens if you tend to easily pick up the accent of people around you).
On the other had, we have so many ways of speaking English in India depending on which state you are from. If one of the Indian languages was spoken internationally like English, we would not even have had to try another accent.
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Post by vasanthakokilam » 11 Jul 2008, 22:27

I am with Music on this. I thought she did a great job in that interview, talked slowly and deliberately in an easy to understand manner, representing carnatic music honorably to an audience that is not familiar with it. The host was good as well. I especially liked Aruna's presence of mind and initiative to say a few words of thanks before singing the last piece. The host was setting it up with his remarks as the last words but it was a much nicer finish with Aruna speaking the concluding words and then singing the last piece.

Many of you may be familiar with Nic Harcourt's Morning Becomes Eclectic show on KCRW 89.9 FM ( http://www.kcrw.com/ ) or David Dye's World Cafe on WFUV ( http://www.wfuv.org/programs/worldcafe.html ). You get to hear some music in these programs that you do not bump into normally and it is a great venue to discover some new music. Aruna would be a great guest in either one of the above programs. This show's format reminded me of that and I have never heard before a carnatic musician interviewed on such music/interview format radio program. Very nice.
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Post by rajeshnat » 11 Jul 2008, 23:04

Smt Aruna Sairam did a great job, every question had a very enthusiastic response.Perhaps she is putting an accent , but certainly more native aussies are going to appreciate CM nuances and start listening to concerts , offcourse the first step would be to buy her cd's . In my opinion , arunA sairam is a kind of personality who knows how to sell to unsold audiences. Keep it up that is a big plus

However when she mentions that one sings a main for an hour to hour and half , I was just thinking when she sang like that in a concert .Ofcourse she never explicitly said she sang such an elaborate main, how beautiful is spoken english I am sure most of them would assume she sings for an hour to hour and half main. Has anyone heard her singing that padam ever in a live cm concert .I have surely not.

I vaguely recollect in early to mid eighties how smt aruna sairam started singing where her style of singing was more in line with Smt BrindA-Muktha bAni .Kind of slow moving but nevertheless not well received by majority of audience .That was arunA sairam then. We all must have been asking Who is arunA sairam?

A sudden introspection bringing in a mAdu meikum kannA to please below 12 year old ,gambeera nAttai thillAna to please above 18 , and a enna kavi pAdinAlum(madurai sOmu drops) to please above 40 rasikAs, and a torrent of abhangs to cover all the rasikas who slipped with the above category. Now We all ask where is arunA sairam singing?

One day I am looking forward to hear a 90 minute main rendition .Will that ever happen , will keep my fingers crossed.
All said and done ,A truly transformational musician , hats off to her strategy and shrewd concert performing ability to draw crowds .

ArunA sairam co-performers :( envy, sabhas :) pride now taking a cool kangaroo :cool: ride.
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Post by vasanthakokilam » 11 Jul 2008, 23:33

On the English accent, I can understand a native speaker of English sensing her English to be a bit 'accented'. The right characterization is that her english is less accented than the typical Indian english accent.
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Post by VK RAMAN » 11 Jul 2008, 23:40

Which accent is acceptable to the majority? Is it gauged by minority or majority following?
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Post by arasi » 12 Jul 2008, 01:27

Forget the accents--Aruna is a great communicator and she has panache. May be a word here and there, but she can be understood by people all over the world.

Rajesh,
Yes, yes, yes. Did you not hear her on the mArgazhi mahA utsavam? She acknowledged that she has changed the course of her singing career or something to that effect, thanking her husband and a family friend for guiding her in that area.
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Post by sureshvv » 12 Jul 2008, 11:27

arasi wrote:Forget the accents--Aruna is a great communicator and she has panache. .
Absolutely! In smaller venues, she is something else. She makes eye contact and holds it when singing giving you the feeling that she is singing just for you, making you even forget the mama with the B.O. putting thappu thalam on the next seat, not to mention the other couple hundered in the hall :-)

Too bad her repertoire has stagnated in the last couple years!
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Post by arasi » 23 Aug 2008, 20:28

Kudos to Aruna Sairam!
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Post by devidas » 26 Jan 2009, 13:24

Padma Shri award has been announced for Aruna Sairam. Congrats for her. Probably the only person from CM field this year!
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 26 Jan 2009, 15:58

devidas, even the Dhananjayans of Bharatanatyam fame are listed for Padma Bhushan.
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 26 Jan 2009, 16:14

mohan! This link is dead. It reports a message like this:
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The requested URL /rn/podcast/current/audioonly/msw_20080614.mp3 was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Please help me ASAP.
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Post by cienu » 26 Jan 2009, 20:15

Congratulations to Smt Aruna Sairam :)
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Post by VK RAMAN » 26 Jan 2009, 20:33

May Lord give her many more years of divine music rendition
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Post by VK RAMAN » 27 Jan 2009, 04:11

Moderator: it seems we have same topic started some where else and I suggest we merge both into one - see post 6 under General section.
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Post by thanjavooran » 27 Jan 2009, 05:43

Congrats! Aruna sairam. A very nice honor. propa-gate more abhangs.
Thanjavooran
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Post by saranya » 09 May 2009, 10:34

Happy that Smt Aruna Sairam has been awarder Padmasree. Expecting Padmabhushan and many more in the near future.
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Post by vallaki » 02 Jul 2009, 22:54

I still recall the first time I was listening to the Ranganatha Ashtakam followed by Kankal etharko on my ipod. It was simply blissful.
I Still get goose pimples listening to that !!!

I am truly grateful to artists like her.The world is surely enriched by their music.
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Post by rajeshnat » 18 Aug 2009, 12:09

Nice writeup , especially the lines "I lost a few audience who were patronising me during my initial years. But instead, I gained thousands of audience from all walks of life. ". I wish aruna reaches and beats maharajapuram santhanam of 1980's and 1990's in terms of crowd pull (records are meant to be broken). In any case she must be all time no #2 atleast from 1970's in terms of rasikas crowd.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/08/18/stories ... 490200.htm

I would agree with the line "Singing in Madras highly demanding"
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Post by Ramasubramanian M.K » 18 Aug 2009, 19:31

Being a late-comer to the forum,I may be indulged if I join the Aruna Sairam foray rather late.

I think all the previous posts have adequately covered her style,'panache'(to quote Arasi),her popularity etc. I thought I could take readers down memory lane.

As readers know she grew up in Bombay--my father and Aruna's father (the late Sethuraman) have been friends for over 50 years--Mr. Sethuraman and his wife Rajalakshmi were an extraordinarily graceful couple who made supporting -- music and struggling artistes-- their life mission.Example:

In the late forties or early fifties(the exact year escapes me),,my father was invited by Mr.Sethuraman to his house in Matunga,Bombay and was introduced to a shy-,self-effacing artiste in his Mid-twenties.He had just come from Madras to explore opportunities in Bombay to pursue his career--mainly teaching and performing if chances arose. Apparently the young man had not gotten much traction in Chennai because he did not know people in high places,was too modest and self-effacing. Sethuraman family hosted the young man despite the fact that they had a small growing family of their own,arranged tuition sessions, a few chamber concerts--although my father was a good friend his influence in Shanmukhananda could not land this young man an opportunity to perform--those were the days when the SSI-MMI-Ariyakudi-GNB-MSS-DKP flags were flying aloft virtually choking opportuinities for struggling but talented artistes. My sister was taught a few songs by the young man.The Sethuramans were solid backers of the young man who returned to Madras to resume his struggles. But that detour to Bombay and the timely patronage of the Sethuraman family helped boost the morale of the young man. Although he did not hit the concert circuit much he found a 'niche' of admirers and sustained himself and for the last two decades has attained a stature and respect befitting his talents and is a regular fixture amongst the honorees in several music establishments in Chennai--his compositions are being sung regularly in concerts.

THAT YOUNG MAN IS THANJAVOOR SANKARA IYER!!
To this day I am convinced but for the Sethuraman Family's trust and support ,the CM world would not have recognized a great artiste/composer like Tanjavoor Sankara Iyer.

Mr. Sethuraman himself had an impeccable refined taste and loved the Brinda Muktha bani--they in turn having been convinced of Sethuraman's genuine allegiance to their style took Aruna under their wings. In those days no amount of money or influence would have coaxed the B-M sisters to undertake coaching students unless the followers were willing to be "slaves" to the School. Aruna to her credit took the tutelage seriously and tried to adhere to the bani--however,I do not know what made her switch the bani nor do I know how the B-M sisters reacted to the changes in her style. But I do know that Aruna did the right thing in making adjustments so that she could still be traditional and yet breezy and innovative.

To echo one of the previous posts on this topic, Aruna certainly did more to "broaden" the listener base of CM without deviating from tradition and trying silly experiments, than her contemporaries did. In fact I would say she built upon the Maharajapuram Santhanam formula of capturing a larger listener base than a stodgy adherence would have fetched.

I know there are purists who frown upon the abandonment of hoary styles and traditions like the Dhanammal bani,but the result in this case has benefitted the listening public without in any way detracting from the Dhanamma Bani constituents.

A story about how the B-M sisters showed their passion for their Bani.

In the late Sixties, B-M sisters had been engaged by Shanmukhananda Sabha to perform. One of their pupils(who subsequently became the head of the Sabha's music school) was a good friend of my father and was my Guru for 1 week!!(the tuition was interrupted by my mother's accident which put a stop to my learning attempts-HOw lucky the CM Music scene is today because of the turning point!!! I was sitting with my Guru chatting with Brindammaabout their days at the Carnatic Music College in Mylapore/Adyar . Then without any prior notice or introduction a middle-aged gentleman(about fortyish) barges in gushing about how much he has heard about the bani and wishing to learn a few padams so that' he could round off his repertoire"--his voice perhaps out of excitement was high-pitched. brindamma patiently but mischievously enquired about his background of learning to which the genthleman rattled off how he is an eclectic person and how he likes all banis--MS,GNB Semmangudi and how he has learnt their songs etc etc.--brindamma would from time to time ask him who else has he learnt from!! The gentleman went on and on thinking he could impress Brindamma with his penchant for broadening his repertoire and his enthusiasm etc. Brindamma turns around to her disciple(my guru) and raising his eyebrows tells him" See, how much he has learnt and said did you notice that he has a "Stage Voice"(now for readers who are not into the Vishamam of Vidwans and their lingos--Stage Voice means the person merely shouts and not sing-- a take-off from the old Drama days when there would be no mike and the singer has to literally shout to be heard in the back rows!!)--the gentleman thought it to be a compliment!!!. Then she becomes serious and tells the person that because he has already established himself with the other teachers he should continue to follow their styles and ended up saying in Tamil

" Nanga Banikunnu Usirai Vidaravanga(We give our lives to our Bani!!),namakku othuvaradu!!

They really cared about their Bani and their pupils adherence to it. Once they were convinced I myself have seen several cases where they literally unlocked their rare treasures of Dikshitar compositions and rare Padams and taught them to stidents who swore allegiance to the bani and still do.

As I said before how they would have reacted to Aruna' s switching styles I would not venture to guess-but I am sure they may not have been too happy!! At the same time I also believe that Aruna did the best thing for herself as well as the hordes of rasikas who otherwise would have been lost to CM.
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Post by VK RAMAN » 18 Aug 2009, 20:01

I like your memoirs. Please do share with us. Better late than never!
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