K.J.Yesudas

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#76 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by VK RAMAN » 23 Feb 2014, 01:10

Several years ago KJY did this rendition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFVwblde9XY - that was for hindus in Kerala who have not yielded to this wish of entering Guruvayur ambalam.

Only thing we can do is to sing a song "Oru divasam Madras Subhas Yesudaasine bahumaanikkum".
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#77 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by cacm » 23 Feb 2014, 02:34

VK RAMAN wrote:None from Madras Sabhas is part of this august forum! Who wants to bell the cat to start the campaign
DON'T BE SO SURE! ANONYMITY HAS ITS ADVANTAGES. VKV
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#78 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by cacm » 23 Feb 2014, 02:51

cmlover wrote:VKR
VKV feels that the Forum is not the route to bring awareness.
I am not so sure!
But even if we start a compaign here there will be very little support!
KJY has already Two strikes against him:
one Christian and the other MalayaLi!
(and perhaps a third one too - he is a Keralite!
ABRAHAM PANDITHAR DEMOLISHED THIS BEING A CHRISTIAN BUSINESS LONG TIME AGO WHEN THINGS WERE SUPPOSEDLY WORSE. BUT SUCH PREJUDICES ARE NOT CURABLE. Vedanayakam Pillai was not HINDU either....Even today I cannot get into places in temples where another religion person can (even more objectionable to MANY SO CALLED RELIGIOUS BIGOTS) because of the RESPECT FOR SADAS.....
I wish others not interpret what I wrote. Take it for what it is. This forum is one of may be fifty others whose INPUT has the 2 percent weight esp. as among the so called who "COUNT" its reputation is not that great. But I participate because every little thing counts.ignorance & stupidity still are things we have to fight. IT IS AT LEAST FREE IN THE SENSE ALMOST ANY OPINION IS TOLERATED HERE.
There have been Musicians who overcame worse odds- Bec of the UTTER IGNORANCE of the so called Madras Sabhas like the Music Academy- WHO WON OUT BECAuSE OF THE RASIKAS. Can you imagine washing the floors after a concert? Also EVEN BEFORE THE ALLOTED TIME is OVER bringing down the curtain?......There is lot of SHAME to go around.
BORN A Vadadesathu Vadama Brahmin from Madras State but not CLEAR what it means tho' in my days the DOWRY was high....I didn't get any because of influences of a Bania.......VKV
BOTTOM LINE IS NOT TO BE SIDELINED BY THESE FACTORS BUT STRAY STRAIGHT INTO THE GENIUS & STRENGTH OF GREAT ARTISTS. :-ss
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#79 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by srkris » 04 Mar 2014, 05:27

I didn't realize that the picture stirred an old hornet's nest - the question of rightful honours to Yesudas.

There is a good deal of polarization on this issue, some feel he is over hyped already, others feel guilty about his not being still well accepted among connoisseurs.

My own personal view is that both of these are true in their own way - he is over hyped for some really run of the mill stuff while not being appreciated (openly/honestly) for some really seriously well performed music.

The fact of the matter is as a playback singer he needs to appeal to his lay audiences by choosing a low common denominator. As a carnatic musician he needs to set at least a minimum standard. Apparently he does both and thereby creates a conflict.

The confusion arises when:
Carnatic rasikas judge him more by his light music (and resent the undue hype he generates among the laity) and the lay rasikas feel competent to judge his classical music (and resent what they perceive as the cognoscenti's lack of according due recognition due to their apparent latent bias against his caste/religion/region).
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#80 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by VK RAMAN » 04 Mar 2014, 06:16

who are these rasikas, fanatical Iyers and Iyengars? Yesudas first born in a family who believed in Christianity, Second he is a Keralite and third He is not a Hindu. If we rasikas do not want to accept that, so be it. He has millions of fans throughout the World and he will not miss the Mecca of Music
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#81 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by venkatakailasam » 04 Mar 2014, 07:10

First throw away the narrow mind and pettiness and then listen to his music..music only..

As a forum promoting music we should not encourage such parochial tendencies ...

Listen to his concert at Concert 60 at

http://myblogkumara.blogspot.in/2014/01 ... me-ii.html

In another thread somebody said that he deserved SK AWARD and some body laughed at it..

My request is..not to skip listening to his concert..especially vatapi..ganapathim..brilliantly rendered ...in the above link...

Here is a thodi...Anandanatesa-Thodi courtesy Murali..
http://mfi.re/listen/gu42l2nlb6teq9d/08 ... -Thodi.mp3

Is it not soulful music!!

I wonder why SK award is eluding him..!!
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#82 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by cacm » 04 Mar 2014, 10:24

quote="srkris"
The fact of the matter is as a playback singer he needs to appeal to his lay audiences by choosing a low common denominator. As a carnatic musician he needs to set at least a minimum standard. Apparently he does both and thereby creates a conflict.
I DO NOT AGREE. Its a SIMPLIFICATION. I find that technically playback singers have perfect alignment with SRUTHI. Without that they simply cannot SURVIVE. Even this "low common denominator" is not being MET by many of today's leading carnatic musicians.
Yesudas is SUPREMELY blessed with a perfect voice technically & has the genius to sing BOTH STYLES OF MUSIC.
I had the privilege of not only meeting him but asking him the following question I ask every artiste: DO YOU perform for your audience& rasikas or do you perform to reach goals like perfection or your own satisfaction?
Without ANY hesitation Yesudas said he performs for his rasikas& audience. Such utter Honesty combined with such Talent is VERY RARE & HE deserves ANY AWARD I CAN THINK OF. VKV :-ss
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#83 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by cmlover » 05 Mar 2014, 01:04

Thanks Vkailasam
That was a very good recording.
KJY particularly shines at Vivadi and rare Ragas which even vetarans fear to tread!
(of course he is equally comfortable with "standard" paddhathi)
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#84 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by pvs » 09 Mar 2014, 07:46

If someone could tap TMK to take KJY's case to the MA, it would be perfect. TMK talks of bringing people from outside the 'fold' to carnatic music. Why not start that with people already performing but due denied recognition?
if only dreams had wings...
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#85 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by harimau » 10 Mar 2014, 09:52

Yesterday, March 9, 2014, Sri Yesudas received the Thyagaraja Kala Seva Rathna award from Sri Krishna Gana Sabha.
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#86 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by rajeshnat » 10 Mar 2014, 11:07

harimau wrote:Yesterday, March 9, 2014, Sri Yesudas received the Thyagaraja Kala Seva Rathna award from Sri Krishna Gana Sabha.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 768541.ece
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#87 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by cmlover » 11 Mar 2014, 00:46

The chances of a SK for KJY now looks much brighter !
Perhaps TMK has injected a wake-up-call into the somnolent CM World !
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#88 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by VK RAMAN » 11 Mar 2014, 00:53

Hope... to.... Dream to ....where.....
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#89 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by sivachinta1965 » 17 Mar 2014, 07:37

Dear Rasikas

Has anybody in the forum the follwing statistics?;

1. Total number public Carnatic Katcheris ( excluding the AIR studio katcheris) by Yesudas

2. Number of carnatic music students who were/are trained/taught by Yesudas.

3. Critical reviews on Yesudas's Carnatic katcheris by critics like Subbudu?

Thanks

Sivaprasad
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#90 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by venkatakailasam » 23 Dec 2014, 20:20

Request join YESUDAS-MUSICAL MAESTRO at Face Book:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/627018664090448/

to listen to more songs of him..
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#91 Re: K.J.Yesudas

Post by rajeshnat » 26 Jul 2016, 18:41

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#92 Re:

Post by shankarank » 11 Mar 2019, 11:54

cmlover wrote:
11 Dec 2008, 22:07
It is a small group o die-hards who are stifling the growth of CM by stifling it in strait-jackets called Bhakti/Language/Trinity/SSP...etc.,

What KJY is in CM today is self-made and he does not display any Chembai in his PaaNi.
Well felt funny reading this thread - after all the discussions we have had!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSq0islk3XY - Just a different Mridangist from his usual kuTTY Nairs brings out a lot more. There is a kathri svaram too that is Chembai BANi.

@cmlover is he is still reading : these people didn't know why they were appreciating Trinity in the first place!

Sulochana mami was writing in the The Hindu about an unsung Mridangist about 3 years prior to his adornment with a kalanidhi:

https://www.thehindu.com/ms/2004/12/01/ ... 340200.htm


Simple question. Ask all Sabha Secrataries - well not - poor things , ask around their Mayilapore patrons instead, is mridangam music or not - or is it just Entertainment ? ;) :lol:

A vaiNika in Dallas told me , that one of Guhan Venkataraman's concert last season had a Mridangist playing titAngiTa taguntArikiTAtaka to reach arai EDuppu!

I told her that , aDa edupparintu vasikkiratutAnE karNAtaka sangItam, sangItamE atANE!!

I used to hear from Ashok Kalidas that every corner there is a dozen Mridangists in Mayilapore ! They are more populous than the violinists for example. Even with 2500 concerts, there should NOT be one that does this!
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