M.S. Gopalakrishnan

Carnatic Musicians
gn.sn42
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#251

Post by gn.sn42 » 14 Sep 2009, 22:43

laks1972 wrote: Anything created by any artist irrespective of whether it has been released commercially or not , irrespectve of whether it was performed in a ticketed concert or no, irrespective of whether the artist received remuneration or not , is copyrighted. This includes EVERY sound track that has been uploaded by every one in this forum without the approval of the concerned artist.
You are mostly correct. A few minor points:
  1. Copyright expires at some time. Typically, it is 70-90 years after the death of the creator of the work. In the case of works with multiple creators (as a CM concert) you have to start the clock after the last creator dies. Copyright laws are mostly standardized across countries, but do vary in some respects.
  2. If you have the approval of the concerned artists, you may share it, but the copyright still belongs to the artists. Remember, the composers of any works hold copyright as well, and one must obtain a license from them in addition to the artists.
  3. Copyright may be formally given up by the creator, but this rarely happens, and I wouldn't recommend it. A Creative Commons license is a good option.
  4. The principle of fair use exempts some copying but whole tracks or concerts are generally not covered by this exemption.
laks1972 wrote: If this forum rewords the requirement as "Only non-commercial recordings to be uploaded" , then I will be able to upload the recording
I don't know about that. Copyright law still applies regardless of forum rules.
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shanks
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#252

Post by shanks » 15 Sep 2009, 06:25

Semmu86 wrote:Dear Shankar ji ,
Are you sure that this nalinakAnti is from the US tour ? I have a feeling that this is an AIR broadcast national programme sometime in the late sixties.
Arvind.
The concert was at Montreal Canada. I did not include a 15 minute tani of Sankaran in this track. He follows this up with sadamadim and then an excellent RTP in shanmukapriya

Shankar

PS: This was my firs t full length live concert from a gentleman 20+ years ago who in turn got it from the man who recorded that concert
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semmu86
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#253

Post by semmu86 » 15 Sep 2009, 08:54

can you please share that thani of sankaran sir if that is shareable ??

Thanks a lot .

Arvind..
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laks1972
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#254

Post by laks1972 » 15 Sep 2009, 09:38

Nice points, in fact I have written about all of what you mentioned to the Admin in my private conversations with him.
gn.sn42 wrote: Copyright expires at some time. Typically, it is 70-90 years after the death of the creator of the work. In the case of works with multiple creators (as a CM concert) you have to start the clock after the last creator dies.
All of the clips uploaded here that of either living artists or that of those who died within 70-90 years from today
gn.sn42 wrote: If you have the approval of the concerned artists, you may share it, but the copyright still belongs to the artists. Remember, the composers of any works hold copyright as well, and one must obtain a license from them in addition to the artists
True, however barring a few such as Sri Nageswaran, I dont think anyone is getting artist's approval prior to uploading. I did not want to follow their approach.
gn.sn42 wrote: The principle of fair use exempts some copying but whole tracks or concerts are generally not covered by this exemption.
That is the reason I did not want to upload the full track . As per fair use policy, only 5% or so can be uploaded for "review" purpose.

I am happy to upload 5% of Brindavana Saranga RTP, if that wil serve anyone's purpose
gn.sn42 wrote:
laks1972 wrote: If this forum rewords the requirement as "Only non-commercial recordings to be uploaded" , then I will be able to upload the recording
.......Copyright law still applies regardless of forum rules.
Of course, just the forum rules will change about what can be uploaded.
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srutishree
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#255

Post by srutishree » 16 Sep 2009, 03:42

Hi Laks1972,

Is it possible to load the Brindavanasaaranga on to Sangeethapriya ... just thinking out of the box.
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laks1972
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#256

Post by laks1972 » 16 Sep 2009, 07:34

I dont think if that will help much as I can not share the sangeethapriya link in this form, same way as I can not share mediafire/sendspace link of that track here

if Admin can confirm that the link wont be deleted, then I can look at that approach

Here is a sample for 2 mins as per fair use policy:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/vwlkju
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Sam Swaminathan
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#257

Post by Sam Swaminathan » 17 Sep 2009, 06:09

Lovely, Laks1972...
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srutishree
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#258

Post by srutishree » 17 Sep 2009, 07:00

Thanks for the 2 min clip, Laks1972. It is heavenly, but what else do we expect from MSG?

The supporting violin seems to intrude needlessly, but that is a minor irritation.

Maybe we should start doing "tapasya" to access the rest of the RTP .... !
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bilahari
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#259

Post by bilahari » 25 Sep 2009, 03:13

MSG - UKS
RTP - SaNmugapriya

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8wh2lh
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srutishree
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#260

Post by srutishree » 25 Sep 2009, 06:23

I was browsing a copy of Sri N Rajagopalan's "Another Garland of Music", and there was (quite disappointingly) no mention of Sri MSG, though other contemporaries have been covered in detail. Has anyone noticed this ?

BTW, many thanks Bilahari for the Shanmukhapriya RTP. Should make for exhilarating listening.
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srinivasrgvn
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#261

Post by srinivasrgvn » 25 Sep 2009, 07:12

Thanks bilahari!
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 25 Sep 2009, 16:40

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musicfan_4201
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#263

Post by musicfan_4201 » 25 Sep 2009, 17:17

srinivasrgvn wrote:An excellent concert of MSG has been uploaded by Sri Hariharan Vaithianathan in his blog:

==URL Removed by moderator==
This is a commercial recording. Pasting links from other sites may bring copyright infringements to this site too.
Revealing the blog owners name in this site does not seem appropriate too.
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 25 Sep 2009, 20:48

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Post by srinivasrgvn » 25 Sep 2009, 20:49

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mvnprasad
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#266

Post by mvnprasad » 18 Oct 2009, 03:07

Sri MSG in short is a boon to this earth. His music is so pure, classical, so much of aesthetic & beauty sense - In my opinion, this world ever had, or ever will produce one more violinist like him. "na-bhootho, na-bhavishyathi" ...

I feel elated, blessed & had a 'purva-janma-sukrutham' to have born in a time when I can listen to MSG's music and also see & listen to him in person and seek his blessings.

I have made & met several friends by just writing about MSG over internet a couple of times (shankar krish, mohan, subramaniam, anand, jayaram and many more in this discussion already). I wish I had more time than what I had so far to write into this forum. I hope to upload some concerts I have in my private collection to this site soon - some of them I alreday shared with friends I mentioned above.

His sookshma sruthi, impeccable laya, perfection of bowing & fingering which prove "nothing-is-impossible" to play on violin, ragam, tanam, item rendition, svaram, neraval are just top notch - out of this world. Not only carnatic style, but Hindustani, and even Western (I heard him play several "impossible" western notes).

Personally, being a performing violinist myself, (I am a disciple of guru Sri "Akella Mallikarjuna Sarma" (msakella) who wrote in this thread many times) - Ever since my first month of learning violin under my guru (1985), I have been listening to MSG and I think words cant describe what happiness his music brought for me in this life. If my ears could speak & express they could tell a lot about MSG.

Of particular mention is his rendition of Varnas. As my Guruji mentioned earlier, he has several different ways of rendering varnas. In "my" opinion, he exemplifies how "taana varnas" are to be rendered.

I still remember my childhood days (in warangal) I used to scan radio stations with a small transistor each night back and forth "hoping and praying" to get any station broadcasting his music - and by the qualities of his music as I wrote above, I could pinpoint if it was MSG or not by just listening 3 sec, just as I was searching various frequencies.

He is always in my thoughts throughout the day - God bestow him a very long happy life and a lot of his music to us.
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mvnprasad
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#267

Post by mvnprasad » 18 Oct 2009, 03:44

Suji Ram wrote:
sbala wrote:I've been listening to MSG's Bhavanutha for the last 2 days and it's almost like entering a new world of music.
I once heard it for 2 weeks... :cool:
the alapana preceeding is in Bhoop and the ending kalpana swaras with hindustani style is also amazing.

Oh his Nattakurinji(varnam) is something!. Would like to hear a detailed piece in nattakurinji. Does anyone have it.
There is a Nattakuranji RTP by GNB with MSG. I heard that this is one of the concerts which MSG himself stated as "one of the best". I think this one was at Shanmukhananda hall.

The ragam and the tanam were just superb.

The pallavi was "Koniyaada Tharama" . Incidentally, (in telugu language) it means "Is it possible to praise you ..." - (you have to be above a person's level to praise - isnt it?) - probably GNB was saying to MSG - "Koniyaada tharama" and MSG replying back to him "Koniyaada Tharama"... Both "diggajas" in CM.

I will find the concert and post it if it is not already available in this forum.
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balakk
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#268

Post by balakk » 08 Nov 2009, 09:20

laks1972 wrote:Sri Manjunath has uploaded a 80's Chicago concert of MSG today :

http://sangeethamshare.org/manjunath/Ca ... n_the_80s/
What a super concert. The Lathangi and Arabhi pieces are incredibly tasty!
Great sound quality too, for a 80s recording.
Sangeethapriya is indeed a treasure trove; I hope wise men are commanding that ship and take steps to preserve it.
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#269

Post by cienu » 10 Nov 2009, 18:17

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bilahari
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Post by bilahari » 12 Nov 2009, 06:52

I enjoyed reading Sri MSG's reminiscence about his childhood. Thanks for the link, cienu sir.
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#271

Post by Nick H » 12 Nov 2009, 14:01

Me too. I had occasion to attend rehearsals with a very-small-girl friend of mine and her teacher, at that house recently. I am amazed and delighted to know it has been the family house for so long, maybe always.

It seemed to me very natural to live one's life in the same house, but, unfortunately was disillusioned of that at age fifteen.
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bilahari
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#272

Post by bilahari » 12 Nov 2009, 14:10

Yes - I was surprised to learn he's been living in the same house since childhood!
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#273 Re: M S Gopalkrishnan

Post by rajeshnat » 22 Oct 2010, 12:06

Very good writeup about Dr narmada. During last year's concert where Aishu played at nageshwaran's house , Dr narmada was very down to earth and unassuming vidushi.
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2010/10/22/stor ... 900200.htm

I am particularly interested in knowing about "one-finger playing " that MSG has created.
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balakk
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#274 Re: M S Gopalkrishnan

Post by balakk » 23 Oct 2010, 06:55

Interesting violin she's holding there .. is the elongated end functional or merely an adornment?
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Nick H
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#275 Re: M S Gopalkrishnan

Post by Nick H » 23 Oct 2010, 13:37

My guess is that it is very functional, and must have been designed by/for her to accommodate holding the instrument and her chosen posture.
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