Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Parivadini - Sumithra Vasudev @ Nada Inbam - 20th Apr 2018
Sumithra Vasudev - Vocal
Usha Rajagopal - Violin
Melakaveri Balaji - Mridangam
B.S.Purushothaman - Khanjira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDKupLqZprs
Nidaye Sarva Vidyanam - Slokam - Nattai
Sruthi Smrithi - Slokam - Nagasvarali
Sri Shankara Guruvaram - Nagasvarali [NS@shrI shankara guruvaram cintayAmi bhava haram] - Maha Vaidyanatha Iyer
Slokam - Ganesha Bhujangam
Giri Raja Sudha - Bangala - T
Suryamurthe - Sourashtram - MD
Slokam - Pandu Ranga Ashtakam
Odi Barayya - Bhairavi [A,NS@mangaLAnga mOhanakAya ranga] - PD
Shankari Shankuru - Saveri [S] - SS
Slokam - Anandha Lahari - Saveri
Shankarabaranam Alapana
Slokam - Dakshinamurthy Ashtakam - Shankarabaranam
Dakshinamurthe - Shankarabaranam [A] - MD
NS @ dakshiNA mUrtE vidaLita dAsArtE cidAnanda spUrtE sadA mauna kIrtE
Thani
Slokam - Subramanya Bhujangam - Abheri
Kanda Vandharul - Abheri - Papanasam Sivan
Slokam - Bharmha Janavali - Sahana / Kapi / Jinjoti
Sarvam Bhrmamayam - Jinjoti - SB
Mangalam - Final sloka from Soundarya Lahari
Sabash, bale bale bale. Perfect planning. Outstanding concert. Shankara Jayanthi aradhana!
Sumithra Vasudev - Vocal
Usha Rajagopal - Violin
Melakaveri Balaji - Mridangam
B.S.Purushothaman - Khanjira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDKupLqZprs
Nidaye Sarva Vidyanam - Slokam - Nattai
Sruthi Smrithi - Slokam - Nagasvarali
Sri Shankara Guruvaram - Nagasvarali [NS@shrI shankara guruvaram cintayAmi bhava haram] - Maha Vaidyanatha Iyer
Slokam - Ganesha Bhujangam
Giri Raja Sudha - Bangala - T
Suryamurthe - Sourashtram - MD
Slokam - Pandu Ranga Ashtakam
Odi Barayya - Bhairavi [A,NS@mangaLAnga mOhanakAya ranga] - PD
Shankari Shankuru - Saveri [S] - SS
Slokam - Anandha Lahari - Saveri
Shankarabaranam Alapana
Slokam - Dakshinamurthy Ashtakam - Shankarabaranam
Dakshinamurthe - Shankarabaranam [A] - MD
NS @ dakshiNA mUrtE vidaLita dAsArtE cidAnanda spUrtE sadA mauna kIrtE
Thani
Slokam - Subramanya Bhujangam - Abheri
Kanda Vandharul - Abheri - Papanasam Sivan
Slokam - Bharmha Janavali - Sahana / Kapi / Jinjoti
Sarvam Bhrmamayam - Jinjoti - SB
Mangalam - Final sloka from Soundarya Lahari
Sabash, bale bale bale. Perfect planning. Outstanding concert. Shankara Jayanthi aradhana!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
The concert was great. Being a musicologist, Sumithra mami always looks for presenting different compositions and gives importance to the sahitya and the meaning. Mami is certainly the torchbearer of the Mudikondan school of music. However I hope she pays attention to voice aestheticsas At times, the voice quality is poor and the voice is too harsh. Neverthless mami is a musicians musician like her guru vedavalli amma. Bale bale concert
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
In this specific concert or in general? I was in the hall and never felt any poor quality or harsh voice at any time.
And the musicians too keep away, mostly. Not only the proletariat.
There my hand wringing is done and I have bemoaned that even Mylapore mamas and mamis aren't bothered much to turn up. Now XYZ will go usher in a reform that will bring them in droves.
May be if it had been announced as RaGa or VisakaHari or Sid Sriram or Sanjay or AR and then switched over? Nah, I don't want to go there lest there is an exodus stampede at the entrances when the screen lifted and/or vandalism and stone pelting angry mobs.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Maybe the poster is as many years younger as I am older. But... I think that would mean that he's a child!
To an average-age rasika, she is a youngster. Parivadini will testify re her looks. It might fail to testify as to the quality of her voice. It's technology might not have revealed that it is one of the best voices on the carnatic stage at this time, without any hint of roughness or any such fault. Whether it is the gift of God, genetics, her guru's training, or all three, it is really exceptional and, I think, would shine in any musical genre in the world.
(yes, I am biased... But just for the record, I might say as much about some students of other schools. What a treat to have Brinda one day and Sumithra the next!)
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Heard the concert unto Saveri. Fantastic. There is no harshness in the voice as posted by musi.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Ohh I did not know that, is there any thing online I can listen to? I recently started learning it, and I found one which is a straight forward rendition, which can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPv2rTdefQ. 10 mins.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Either I am too old, or you too young. I'd probably say she is in her 30's. Sumithra? A mami?
If you are that young and listen to the likes of Sumithra and Vedavalli mami, bale bale, more power to you! Pristine, no compromise straight forward carnatic music.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
The link for Subramanya Bhujangam by Vedavalli Mami is given below. I recorded this from Radio thirty years back.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/649pbj
https://www.sendspace.com/file/649pbj
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Koti namaskarams. Thank you thank you thank you!CRama wrote: ↑21 Apr 2018, 21:48 The link for Subramanya Bhujangam by Vedavalli Mami is given below. I recorded this from Radio thirty years back.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/649pbj
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Here is a link to T Balasaraswathy's rendition of Subramania Bhujangam
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1mq997
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1mq997
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
I dont know the fuss in calling her mami? My brother, my mother and my grand mother call my brothers guru Mami (who is 10 years younger to my grand mother). Many of ranjani gayatris disciples in their late 20s call them aunty. I am 22 years old and I assume I am atleast 12-15 years younger than the vidushi. It was more out of respect and I apologize if you guys felt bad.
About the voice being harsh sometimes, theres either a difference between a live concert and the recorded version or a problem with my ears. In any case this was just my view point. Nevertheless, these flashes of harsh voice are few and far inbetween IMO and lets all just keep calm and enjoy music rather than freaking out over lame stuff.
About the voice being harsh sometimes, theres either a difference between a live concert and the recorded version or a problem with my ears. In any case this was just my view point. Nevertheless, these flashes of harsh voice are few and far inbetween IMO and lets all just keep calm and enjoy music rather than freaking out over lame stuff.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Ohh no no. You've got the wrong end of the stick. It was *all* in jest, nothing more, no need to apologise. Very happy to know, more power to you as I said before, best wishes.musi wrote: ↑22 Apr 2018, 23:21 I dont know the fuss in calling her mami? My brother, my mother and my grand mother call my brothers guru Mami (who is 10 years younger to my grand mother). Many of ranjani gayatris disciples in their late 20s call them aunty. I am 22 years old and I assume I am atleast 12-15 years younger than the vidushi. It was more out of respect and I apologize if you guys felt bad.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Actually, musi, I liked the respect for her: she deserves it. But also imagined her laughing at being called mami! We really didn't think that you were trying to make an old lady of her.
And if it had turned out that you were about ten years old, your enjoyment of her music would have been wondrous.Anyway, happy you are enjoying, whatever your age.
And if it had turned out that you were about ten years old, your enjoyment of her music would have been wondrous.Anyway, happy you are enjoying, whatever your age.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
There is this modern convention that I observe in TV shows where a pretty old person addresses even a toddler with respect. Maybe some of us have not moved with times!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
What is the dividing line between 'akka' and 'mami'? I find that people call each other as mama and mami even though they are the same age more or less. The westerners have no problem as mentioning names maybe with Mr/Mrs with surname is considered sufficient etiquette. We must perhaps follow them. I do not think our hoary ancient culture will suffer a serious blow!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
As for the male of the species, a generic sAr (sir) suffices. A firangi word used randomly--for someone who is older (respect him or not--it's not relevant), someone of your age too, someone you have known for years, or an utter stranger.The more you drag the distance between s and r, the more evident it is that you need a favor from sir
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Of course it will! Why this clarion call to ape westerners again when we have indigenously developed a fairly sophisticated system of nomenclature? Or are you being tongue-and-cheek?kvchellappa wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:03 What is the dividing line between 'akka' and 'mami'? I find that people call each other as mama and mami even though they are the same age more or less. The westerners have no problem as mentioning names maybe with Mr/Mrs with surname is considered sufficient etiquette. We must perhaps follow them. I do not think our hoary ancient culture will suffer a serious blow!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
We do no longer wear panchagaccham or sport a tuft! I saw you once and am sure!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Seems you believe in "Vecha kudumi... Saracha mottai" mama!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
I am with musi and music.
I will take whatever is elegant from wherever, like I prefer million, billion, trillion over lakhs and crores.
Nature has made me part kudimi and mostly mottai anyway.
I will take whatever is elegant from wherever, like I prefer million, billion, trillion over lakhs and crores.
Nature has made me part kudimi and mostly mottai anyway.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
As long as you don't switch to supporting Uncle and Aunty, we will be OK!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
back in 1950s, a child never addressed an adult by their first name: to do so would have been considered rude, and attracted a rebuke or more. So this is what we had....
Actual relatives other than siblings were called by their relationship title, although "cousin" was left behind in Victorian novels.
Teachers were generally Sir! and Miss! Often including the exclamation marks.
Friends of parents were Uncle or Auntie. As a child who always had an interest in the nature of reality, I found this strange and confusing. And I never saw any need to "Kiss Auntie Someone" when I barely liked the woman! It's not all bad: at least I did not have to suffer having my cheek grabbed savagely or my chin being manhandled. Vive la [cultural] differance!
Given one or two details, such as the extension of titles to include specifics for elder/younger siblings, and the British restriction of mother/father to actual parents, I don't see that much difference between Western and Indian here, other than fifty or sixty years. Maybe they came to be independently in parallel, or maybe they shared origins with each other?
Actual relatives other than siblings were called by their relationship title, although "cousin" was left behind in Victorian novels.
Teachers were generally Sir! and Miss! Often including the exclamation marks.
Friends of parents were Uncle or Auntie. As a child who always had an interest in the nature of reality, I found this strange and confusing. And I never saw any need to "Kiss Auntie Someone" when I barely liked the woman! It's not all bad: at least I did not have to suffer having my cheek grabbed savagely or my chin being manhandled. Vive la [cultural] differance!
Given one or two details, such as the extension of titles to include specifics for elder/younger siblings, and the British restriction of mother/father to actual parents, I don't see that much difference between Western and Indian here, other than fifty or sixty years. Maybe they came to be independently in parallel, or maybe they shared origins with each other?
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
You are blessed - no bad hair day anyday
Whats the hullaballo with this akka/mami/aunty/uncle - storm in the edge of a teaspoon ?
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Thambi, it is rasikas.org: let us enjoy the chance of any storm!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Let us know how musi would have referred to Mrs. Sumithra Vasudev if he were British. (not addressed in person)
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
In good old days, SishyAs referred to their gurus as ANNA. Neat! Always liked that! Now they call them by their names. So long as you don't call them names, thambi-s
As for us rasikas, we still have the convenience of using their English initials freely and conveniently: GNB, TNS, MLV, DKP...
As for us rasikas, we still have the convenience of using their English initials freely and conveniently: GNB, TNS, MLV, DKP...
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Mrs. Sumithra Vasudev!kvchellappa wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 15:12Let us know how musi would have referred to Mrs. Sumithra Vasudev if he were British. (not addressed in person)
Or Ms. Or.... Just Sumithra, which is, I think, what most of us here would say.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Off topic and straight from the oor vambu section, according to Sriram's book The Devadasi & The Saint, the fashion of calling people by three or two letter acronym started from Bangalore Nagarathnam who was BNR, called that as she was as big as the locomotive running in one of the old private rail companies called BNR
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Nick,
Thanks. That is what I was trying to suggest in my post, but I have been asked to choose a definite hairstyle!
Thanks. That is what I was trying to suggest in my post, but I have been asked to choose a definite hairstyle!
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Shri subrahmaNya bhujangam
mahAbhOdhi tIrE mahApApa chOrE
munIndrAnukUlE sugandhAkhya shailE
guhAyAM vasantaM swabhAsA lasantaM
janArti harantaM shrayAmO guhaM tam.
mahAbhOdhi tIrE mahApApa chOrE
munIndrAnukUlE sugandhAkhya shailE
guhAyAM vasantaM swabhAsA lasantaM
janArti harantaM shrayAmO guhaM tam.
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Re: Sumithra Vasudev, Shanmatham, 20/Apr/2018
Arasi ji and Mahesh thanks for the interesting reference. In my school days I have seen BNR in big loud speakers provided for sound system in St T's Aradhana. Just rewinding my memory.MaheshS wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 19:22Off topic and straight from the oor vambu section, according to Sriram's book The Devadasi & The Saint, the fashion of calling people by three or two letter acronym started from Bangalore Nagarathnam who was BNR, called that as she was as big as the locomotive running in one of the old private rail companies called BNR
With wishes,
Thanjavooran
30 04 2018