rAgamAlika in film songs

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#26 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ganeshkant » 20 Jun 2011, 11:19

For the first time I heard a film song in ragam "NAsika bhUshaNi" from the film 'pAsa kiLihaL' sung by Madhu Balakrishnan & muisc by VidyAsAgar.Not bad.o.k.The name of the rAgam appears in the song.The song starts with a mini AlApanai.
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#27 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by srinivasanmail » 11 Aug 2011, 09:12

I think most of you are missing one excellent film Karnan wherein MSV has played his imagination very well with TMS, SGR, PBS and TL in the RagamAlika song sequence starting with Mannavar...by TMS, Mazhai Kodukkum...by SGR, nANichchivandhana...by TL and Enna KoduppAn...by PBS. Finally all of them singing together the beautifully rendered Ayiram KarangaL Neetti...

TMS singing in Raga MOhanam, SGR in HindOLam, TL in KAnadA, PBS in HamsAnandi and finally all of them in ChakravAgam (am I right?)

Karnan film has a lot of beautiful songs in various rAgAs like, Ananda Bhairavi, AmeerkalyANi, KaraharapriyA, HamsanAdam, Sudhdha DhanyAsi, ChakravAgam, etc. Good for even repeated listening.
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#28 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ganeshkant » 11 Aug 2011, 12:13

Yes.Agreed ur views on karnan songs.But "iravum nilavum.." is in shyam-kalyan (as told by Kumbakonam Gopinath).Some say as 'shudh sarang' also.But that is not defenitely Hamsanadam.
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#29 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by srinivasanmail » 12 Aug 2011, 07:18

Of all the songs I like the song 'ellAm inba mayam' in MaNamagaL, very beautifully rendered by MLV and P Leela. Both Padmini and Lalitha did very well in acting. The song sequence was shot very well with T.S.Balaiah as Music Teacher.

C.R.Subbaraman did a very good job on the TALam. The swara patterns were intricately woven to start the pallavi at 'inba mayam' The 'eduppu' is 3 aksharams (THA KI TA) after the ring finger in Adi TALam. Excellently performed by the entire group. I have heard only positive reviews from everybody who listened to this song. Actually many people later started singing this song as a challenge on stage. Notably Sudha Raghunathan and Nithyashree Mahadevan (See YouTube). With technology not so much advanced in those days, I wonder how they were able make song shooting like this without blemish! Nowadays we have all the audio and video SW to correct mistakes.
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#30 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by srinivasanmail » 16 Aug 2011, 10:12

Continuing my previous post (#29)

The song Ellam Inba Mayam can be accessed at the following URL in YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn4gJSPJvjU

The same movie "MaNamagaL" has the other Ragamalika song Chinnanchiru KiLiYE
and can be accessed at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfTHdyB-qFA

This song has the ending in Raga Neelamani. This is the same raga that K.V.Mahadevan used in the movie Thillaanaa MohanaambaaL for the song "Nalam Thaanaa?" What a beautiful song?

I have a question.

There is a song "Nilave nee intha sedhi sollaayo?" by TMS and I think P.Leela in the movie PattiNaththaar.

Please use the following URL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfTyz7JxHnw&NR=1

I think the Raga is Nadhanamakriya. Am I right?

I haven't heard this raga in any other movie song. But I have a recording of Ramayana song written by Papanasam Sivan in 24 ragas: "Kosalai Pudhalvanai Arivaay maname". There is one stanza in Nadhnamakriya raga: "Anai irunthu arasaaLum Mandabaththil..." The entire song was sung by SGR with such a beautiful voice!
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#31 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ganeshkant » 16 Aug 2011, 16:23

Yesterday (15/08) Listened these songs in AIR.

1.PArukkuLLe nalla nAdu - KappalOttiya Tamizhan - GR/SGR - JOnpuri,mAnd & hamir kalyAni
2.veeramundu vetriundu - Madhurayai meetta sundarapandian - MSV/TMS - SudhasAveri & darbAri kAnada
Both the songs were excellent.

I think the song nilavE from PattinathAr is in MMG.There is also a beautiful song in GowrimanOhari in this film starting from the lower octave.Srinivasamail,do u know the starting ?

Any idea about the rAgas in SindhunadhiyinmisainilavinilE from Kaikodutha Deivam.
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#32 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by rshankar » 16 Aug 2011, 21:18

srinivasanmail wrote:I have a question.
There is a song "Nilave nee intha sedhi sollaayo?" by TMS and I think P.Leela in the movie PattiNaththaar.
Please use the following URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfTyz7JxHnw&NR=1
I think the Raga is Nadhanamakriya. Am I right?
First off, thank you for that link - I have been searching for this for ages now. I thought the rAga was MMG...since nAdanAmakriya is a janya rAga of MMG, I guess it does sound like nAdanAmakriya in portions. People better at it than I am can correct me if I am wrong.
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#33 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by srinivasanmail » 18 Aug 2011, 08:50

This is the link for the PattiNaththaar Movie songs

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/#/album ... thar__1936_/

Don't worry if it is listed as 1936 movie. That must be a mistake. We get TMS songs there.

The song you are requesting in the Raga GowriManohari is by TMS "Kaappathun Baaramaiah" It's a wonderful song.
I think it's listed as 8th song under the title Enseyalavathu. As soon as you click to play the song, wait for a minute or so and the song Kaappathun Baaramaiah will start.

Thanks!
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#34 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ganeshkant » 25 Aug 2011, 15:46

Just listened to this song from the film "ThulAbhAram".Music by dEvarAjan sung by TMS - PS.
'sangam valartha tamizh' in chenchuruti & puunAgavarAli.A beautiful composition soulfully sung by the duo.
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#35 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by CRama » 30 Aug 2011, 12:09

Nilave nee intha is Mayamalavagowla only. Not Nadanamakriya.
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#36 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ravichitrapu » 07 Nov 2011, 23:06

many of these films /songs may have been remade in telugu (or dubbed?). Could someone please give the telugu equivalents of the above compositions. thanks.
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#37 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ganeshkant » 08 Nov 2011, 11:01

Today heard this song after a long time in radio.
"sanga thamizh kaviyE" from the film 'manadhil urudhi vEnDum' - IR / KJ Y & SJ - bhimplAs & chandrakauns.
I especially liked the line ' nee varum padhayellAm angangE pArvayai ODa vittEn' - must be Vairamuthu.
A beautifully composed and sung song.
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#38 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ganeshkant » 15 Nov 2011, 11:06

The above song has the first charanam in bAgEshree it looks like.So that makes it a total of 3 rAgams.
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#39 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by naarayanan » 17 Nov 2011, 22:53

all the songs in 'manadhil urudhi vendum' are by vaalee.

http://ragasinfilmmusic.blogspot.com/se ... A%20MALIKA
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#40 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by ganeshkant » 28 Nov 2011, 12:43

mahArajapuram SanthAnam sings for S.V.Subbiah in the film 'rOshakkAri'.AzhwAr pAsurams in bowli and valaji.Very melodic and soulful rendition.
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#41 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by Sundar Krishnan » 30 Apr 2012, 11:30

30/4/12

Somewhat related to this topic of identifyiing the Ragam, is also my Posts 20 and 21 in :
http://www.rasikas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5925 - dt 19th and 20th Apr, 2012.

Since I haven't received any response in that Thread for quite some time, I searched through rasikas website for a similar topic, and found 2 Threads - one of them is this thread.
I would request members to pl have a look into those songs - I have provided Youtube links for all the songs (mostly Malayalam Songs, sung by Yesudas).

Would it have been better had I posted the above 2 Msgs in "Sahitya & identification requests" Subtitle, {or, a new Topic in "Light Classical" - I doubt this alternative though} ?

In fact, I have an updated list with some more of such Film songs, for which I would like to have the Ragam(s) identified.

Thanks in Advance (TIA).

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#42 Re: rAgamAlika in film songs

Post by Sundar Krishnan » 03 May 2012, 21:17

3/5/12

Some yrs ago, I had downloaded the foll as pdf files :

Now, these are available as images ! :

http://www.scribd.com/writerhari/d/4856 ... -and-Ragas

http://www.scribd.com/doc/10515966/Raag ... 1250-Songs

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