Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Charu Venkat
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#1 Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

Post by Charu Venkat »

Given that the slots have already been posted, it boils down to

(a) Aruna Sayeeram,

(b) Bombay Jayashree, or

(c) Ranjani - Gayatri

Or, will Smt. Sudha Ragunathan create history by being the first person to get the Sangeetha Kalanidhi twice?!
Last edited by Charu Venkat on 13 Mar 2018, 13:01, edited 1 time in total.

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#2 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Sudha Ragunathan to be given for second time?
Pl note that she already got the title.

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#3 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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"
Given that the slots have already been posted, it boils down to
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What slots? Posted where? Is this something new?

I think it shd be OST for this year - he truly deserves it.

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#4 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Suguna Varadachari.

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#5 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Nick H wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 01:55 Suguna Varadachari.
Think she has got Sangeetha Kalacharya, don't think they will add Kalanidhi to it. People like Mami deserve both.

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#6 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Surely, what's the hurry? It's still early March :(

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#7 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Before everyone obliges the OP by getting into the heated argument that this invariably becomes, may be we should wait for her response to HarishankarK's question: what slots, posted where?? The answer to this is important as it is used as the justification for starting this thread this early.

Update: there is another thread where this question is answered with this OP participating, in the events section. *sigh*

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#8 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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VIKKU
VIKKU
VIKKU

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#9 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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To elect the SK awardee each year - why can't the Academy come up with the nominees and then ask the previous Sangita Kalanidhis' who are alive and willing to vote for amongst the nominees - and whoever gets the maximum votes can be given the award for the year. That will be more transparent, won't it?

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#10 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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:lol: Ahaa... the start of the annual futile sound & fury, when the choice has already been made :lol:
Discuss away, ppl...

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#11 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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HarishankarK wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 09:49 ... then ask the previous Sangita Kalanidhis' who are alive and willing to vote for amongst the nominees - and whoever gets the maximum votes can be given the award for the year...
Used to be the practice for many yrs. One particular previous SK used to vote every yr... :lol:

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#12 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Even though it's all fixed - it's still exciting to ponder over who will win
Like Oscar buzz - SK buzz started v early this year

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#13 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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The slots can be found here : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30912&p=331928#p331928

My vote is for Aruna Sairam. That she doesn't deserve it is another matter altogether...

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#14 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Really - I don't think that this slot has anything to do with SK title winner - surely the morning concert senior singers names are not included yet in the slots - so this is definitely not a comprehensive list of eligible nominees

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#15 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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thanjavooran wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 09:23 VIKKU
VIKKU
VIKKU
Possibly one of the greatest percussionists ever. But, for SK, I would say that it should go to someone who still, if they perform, do so regularly for "ordinary" classical concerts. OK, OK. Before I get beaten into the ground, yes, I do occasionally see his name listed, but, whatever he may have done, or whoever he may have played for, decades ago, these days, I think of him as a world-tour/fusion guy.

If I am wrong, I'll happily eat my words. But, in my Chennai concert-going over the past decade, where there is a ghatam player from the local pool of ghatam players, it has never been Vikku. Not once.

But wait, SK for jugalbandi/fusion... It's sure to be one of the MA's new, modern ideas, one day!

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#16 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Charu Venkat wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 13:02 The slots can be found here : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30912&p=331928#p331928

My vote is for Aruna Sairam. That she doesn't deserve it is another matter altogether...
Really funny ! "She may not deserve it, but my vote is for her "!

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#17 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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May be Charu Venkat feels others are less deserving.

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#18 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Should've clarified that I feel that Aruna is the most likely to get the Kalanidhi this year. My apologies.

It seems that there is a movement to get Sowmya the Kalanidhi too.

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#19 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Charu Venkat wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 21:00

Or, will Smt. Sudha Ragunathan create history by being the first person to get the Sangeetha Kalanidhi twice?!
Why not award her thrice ? Pointless !
Aruna Sairam hasn't done anything remarkable other than singing light pieces to appeal to the gallery .

My vote is for Lalgudi Srimathi and Anuradha Sridhar

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#20 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Pl keep adding all rumours no matter how absurd. They are more interesting than the fact.

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#21 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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I am waiting for next year's result and more eagerly for the fireworks here.... :mrgreen:

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#22 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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I propose flautist Shashank.

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#23 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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My choice malladi. It should be given to a male artist. Only their music is music.

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#24 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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SrinathK wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 12:00 I am waiting for next year's result and more eagerly for the fireworks here.... :mrgreen:
What else is our annual pre-award SK thread about but rumours and opinions. Whilst it may get a little heated occasionally, it is just for fun
Sivaramakrishnan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 14:01 I propose flautist Shashank.
Good idea. Highly successful in fusion, cross-over, other genres etc, but also regularly playing carnatic.

I'm very happy to see someone make a material success out of a profession in music. Good for him. There are still those, though, who would be against the SK awardee arriving in his BMW! I say, shame on them expecting artists to be poor, as in some outdated, mythical ideal.

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#25 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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devan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 14:21 My choice malladi. It should be given to a male artist. Only their music is music.
Unfortunately their music is getting boring now

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#26 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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They are Malladi Bros, not just Malladi--and they are two individuals, aren't they not?

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#27 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Brahma offers an evolved soul, destined for just one more birth, a choice of what the being wants to be.
"Brahma, sir, I want to be born in Mylapore."
"OK, as what? Ambika appalam seller, temple priest, mosquito, or a musician!?"
"MUSICIAN!"
"OK. But tell me what's so good about it."
"Brahma, you don't KNOW? That's the best way to get a Sangita Kalanidhi, man!"
"But do you know the moment you're close to that award stuff, you will have to suffer the trolls in rasikas.org for about 15 months before and about 3 months after?"
"But Brahma, don't you know I will have an army of supporters inflitrating all such sites?"
"Suit yourself. That SK is not such a big deal to suffer all that trolling."

"So what else do you suggest, Brahma?"

"Become a fake businessman, borrow 25000 crores from a bank, and scoot."
"Then what?"
"You can conduct festivals in various names and all those Mylapore folks will come and sing in your place".
"OK. Done deal, then!"

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#28 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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"Become a fake businessman, borrow 25000 crores from a bank, and scoot."
If you put Money in bank - Nirav takes it!
If you put Money in Cricket - Lalit takes it!
If you keep Money @ home - you know who takes it!

So goes the whatsapp troll!!

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#29 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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I now understand why someone's name is Kalanidhi!

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#30 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Sachi_R wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 22:57 Brahma offers an evolved soul, destined for just one more birth, a choice of what the being wants to be.
"Brahma, sir, I want to be born in Mylapore."
"OK, as what? Ambika appalam seller, temple priest, mosquito, or a musician!?"
"MUSICIAN!"
"OK. But tell me what's so good about it."
"Brahma, you don't KNOW? That's the best way to get a Sangita Kalanidhi, man!"
"But do you know the moment you're close to that award stuff, you will have to suffer the trolls in rasikas.org for about 15 months before and about 3 months after?"
"But Brahma, don't you know I will have an army of supporters inflitrating all such sites?"
"Suit yourself. That SK is not such a big deal to suffer all that trolling."

"So what else do you suggest, Brahma?"

"Become a fake businessman, borrow 25000 crores from a bank, and scoot."
"Then what?"
"You can conduct festivals in various names and all those Mylapore folks will come and sing in your place".
"OK. Done deal, then!"
Very nice one

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#31 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Sachi_R wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 22:57 "Become a fake businessman, borrow 25000 crores from a bank, and scoot."
"Then what?"
"You can conduct festivals in various names and all those Mylapore folks will come and sing in your place".
"OK. Done deal, then!"
Not sure if this is true. But sad to note that Dharma kaaryam is happening from Adharmic funds/sponsors.
Carnatic music being used for money laundering - Kaliyuga - what else can explain this ??

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#32 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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One of the leading sabhas in TN was being run by people whose loans were NPA. There are many, many instances where the 'noble' have to hide their real face. One of the patrons of Thiruvaiyaru had huge unpaid loans to a PSB and its chairman was in trouble.

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#33 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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I propose Lalgudi Siblings.

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#34 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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I suppose those at the Academy are listening to what we propose :lol:
If they are reading this thread, they are probably having a good laugh over our earnestness :(
When we go on and on, they get a chance to either ignore us or to have a bit of fun over our persistent earnestness...:(
Over the years on this topic, we have found out that:
There are more than just one out there who deserves the award.
There is only one awardee.
There are logistics about rotation (vocal, instrumental, male, female).
Then, politics: internal and that outside the Academy: political political, societal politics, influences--inside and outside of it.
Amidst all this, musicians carry on enriching music, and really, the award counts not that much.
As for us, a child doesn't get excited or obsessed over his dIpAvali share of fireworks every day of the year :( In the same manner, there's a limit to the time in which we can indulge in this SK proposing and guessing game :( That's why I said earlier that it's too early--like Christmas in spring :(
Another strange thing. We pay way too much importance to the SK award (as if other awards don't count at all), and yet carry on knocking the MA. Time for some introspection?

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#35 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Arasi,
Some great psychoanalyst said once that the first symptom of madness is taking oneself too seriously.

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#36 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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As there are innuendos on some public personalities, this thread may kindly be moved to the lounge. Good to remember that all posts except under the lounge are seen by google . It adds to the merit of forum, if we say complimentary things about persons but derogatory remarks and gossipy items , justified or not, are better suited to the lounge.

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#37 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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On such a yardstick, all headings must go to the lounge.

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#38 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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kvchellappa » 18 Mar 2018, 11:58
On such a yardstick, all headings must go to the lounge.
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Hardly! Just see all the thread headings in the current page in general discussion.

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#39 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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RSR wrote: 18 Mar 2018, 11:52Good to remember that all posts except under the lounge are seen by google.
Something skris might like to change.... Or not.

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#40 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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"Just see all the thread headings in the current page in general discussion."

By only the thread heading, the current one is rightly here as SK has everything to do with music, at least in theory.

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#41 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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This year I suppose the awardee has got to be a senior vocalist , since the last two years had seen instrumentalists being awarded .
So , who are the senior vocalists waiting for this highest honour today ?
1. Smt. Suguna Varadachari
2. Sri. OS Thyagarajan
It would be one of them .
My personal opinion is that Smt. Suguna Purushothaman must have been awarded SK earlier , in the post 2010 years .

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#42 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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RSR wrote: 18 Mar 2018, 11:52 As there are innuendos on some public personalities, this thread may kindly be moved to the lounge. Good to remember that all posts except under the lounge are seen by google . It adds to the merit of forum, if we say complimentary things about persons but derogatory remarks and gossipy items , justified or not, are better suited to the lounge.
Sir,

There have been no names mentioned in KVChellappa's post. Please help me understand - how does an anonymous blanket statement, which I couldn't trace through my contacts in the Music circle, are 'innuendos on public personalities' when neither innuendo nor personality is clear???

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#43 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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vijay.siddharth wrote: 18 Mar 2018, 19:32Please help me understand
Do not bother. People will say... people will say about what people say...

Do not try to understand. Just let them. Even... join in! :lol:

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#44 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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@42-> Sri.Vijay, -> one or two names are there. and reference to people indirectly. As Nick says, let it go unnoticed. ( I am just RSR..No 'sir' please). I need the help of specialists like you in educating me about the ragams of famous songs of yester-years ( 1947) by DKP and MS. As Nick says..'kindly join in'. in the ragas section please. Thank you

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#45 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Isn’t it like time now for the result to be out? Going by history over the last 3 to 4 years, isn’t it typically announced around early to mid June ? The powers that be, anything that can be shared? :)

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#46 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Seems that we are no longer a frenzy to know. That could be a good sign!

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#47 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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...or it could blow up in everyone's faces big time like it did a couple years ago when someone 'controversial' is chosen. Then, the TIger will return to make posts to bait people like ShankaranK and RSR to perambulate in the wastelands of Verbal Diarrhoea, causing people like SureshVV to cut those to size like someone cutting carrots, while Arasi restores peace (?) through poetry and Vasanthakokilam bans half the form. It is all fair game!

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#48 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Even if a Vidwan/Vidushi has been conferred Sangeetha Kala Charya,will he/she be considered for Sangitha Kalanidhi?
It is unlikely. Suguna Mami has been conferred Sangita Kala Acarya if i remember.

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#49 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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Bhagwan,
Both Sugunas have been awarded the title. So also Neela Ramgopal. SAs are not awarded SKs--at least, not until now.

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#50 Re: Sangeetha Kalanidhi 2018

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This time It may be OS Thyagarajan.
Vijaya Siva ruled out as he does not perform at Academy.
Last two years it has been Instrumentalists,hence it will definitely be vocal.

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