Manasa sancharare

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bhakthim dehi
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Manasa sancharare

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Can anyone tell me who has tuned the krithi 'manasa sancharare' of Sadashiva Brahmendraal in the ragam Sama.

kvchellappa
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Not SSI?

bhakthim dehi
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I initially had an impression that it was tuned by SSI. But, recently heard MMI singing this. Though, there are possibilities that the latter could have learnt this from SSI, I had a doubt whether this version was in circulation even before the period of SSI.

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Pl see here:
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bhakthim dehi
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But my question remain unanswered.

kvchellappa
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That post says SSI.
MDR has sung Bhavayami tuned by SSI. MMI also might not have had any qualms.

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kvchellappa wrote: 28 Mar 2018, 06:25 That post says SSI.
MMI also might not have had any qualms.
Qualms? What's wrong with singing it? Confusing!!!

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"I initially had an impression that it was tuned by SSI. But, recently heard MMI singing this."
This seems to suggest that MMI would not have sung it if tuned by SSI.
I do not know whether SSI sung any song tuned by contemporaries.

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Re: Manasa sancharare

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"
I initially had an impression that it was tuned by SSI. But, recently heard MMI singing this."
This seems to suggest that MMI would not have sung it if tuned by SSI.
I hope you didnt read my next statement.
by bhakthim dehi » 27 Mar 2018 15:23

I initially had an impression that it was tuned by SSI. But, recently heard MMI singing this. Though, there are possibilities that the latter could have learnt this from SSI, I had a doubt whether this version was in circulation even before the period of SSI.

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Re: Manasa sancharare

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"
I initially had an impression that it was tuned by SSI. But, recently heard MMI singing this."
This seems to suggest that MMI would not have sung it if tuned by SSI.
I hope you didnt read my next statement.
by bhakthim dehi » 27 Mar 2018 15:23

I initially had an impression that it was tuned by SSI. But, recently heard MMI singing this. Though, there are possibilities that the latter could have learnt this from SSI, I had a doubt whether this version was in circulation even before the period of SSI.

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Thanks for pointing out emphatically.
I read/heard that it was SSI who set to tune the SB kritis in his early twenties (V Sriram in Sanjay podcasts). A friend said that Sri G S Mani felt that the tunes were not appropritae and that he would reset them, but that he never did it. BMK sings in different tunes.

bhakthim dehi
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Thanks for this information. Very useful indeed.

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I have heard that SSB songs were set to tune first by SSI and he had even pointed out that alterations may not be proper as the first tunesmith must be respected for it. Khelathi mamahridaye in Ataana is highly representative of the SSI vazhi as many know. Chinta naastikila and Bruhimukundeti were also popularised by him.

However SSB kritis were subject to lot of independent tuning by other musicians and a few of the compositions came out in pure Hindustani mode. (Eg. Brahmaivaaham kila as sung by Voleti and several other kritis by MBK etc).
Ashtapadis too have more or less met the same end.

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bhakthim dehi wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 15:23 I initially had an impression that it was tuned by SSI. But, recently heard MMI singing this. Though, there are possibilities that the latter could have learnt this from SSI, I had a doubt whether this version was in circulation even before the period of SSI.
Where can I find MMI's rendition of Manasa sancharare? Any link please.

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I was able to hear it from a private collection. I do not know about its availability otherwise.

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