Madura nagarilo and thyagarajar
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Madura nagarilo and thyagarajar
Can somebody state the anecdote that connects
Madhura nagarilo (Ananda bhairavi ragam) and thyagarajar.
Is madhura nagarilo categorised under javali's ?
Why is it popular under kuchupudi music ?
Madhura nagarilo (Ananda bhairavi ragam) and thyagarajar.
Is madhura nagarilo categorised under javali's ?
Why is it popular under kuchupudi music ?
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Re: Madura nagarilo and thyagarajar
I do not know of any connection of this song with Thayagaraj.
http://www.karnatik.com/c1025.shtml
It was by Chittor Subramanya Pilai, as I understand
http://www.karnatik.com/c1025.shtml
It was by Chittor Subramanya Pilai, as I understand
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There is a reference in this link :-
http://charulathamani.blogspot.in/2011/ ... t-all.html
You may scroll down to July 21, 2011 for the comment by Dr. Murthy of Bangalore -
“1. Saint Thyagaraja Swamy's promise to Krishna Leela drama troupe manager that he won't compose anymore songs in Ananda Bhairavi so that the episode of the Saint visiting the drama performance will be remembered for long (song performed by the drama artistes being Madhura nagarilo).”
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thanks for posting articles RSR and Bala.
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that is why i think Thyagarajar has composed only countable number of songs in anandabhairavi to keep up this promise.
though Ananadabhairavi was an ancient,popular and fully developed raga by his time
though Ananadabhairavi was an ancient,popular and fully developed raga by his time
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pb,
Sometimes even quoting such links where cock and bull stories are spread, might amount to giving credence to them.
Sometimes even quoting such links where cock and bull stories are spread, might amount to giving credence to them.
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Who remembers the Kuchipudi Bhagavatr or Krishna Leela Manager while listening to or singing Ananda Bhairavi? Only Shyama Sastri and Dikshitar come to one's mind. These stories were concocted by people who didn't know about the other two of the Trinity. It is a pity that even Sambamurthy subscribed to such rubbish and gave credence to them through his books.
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Then is it just the built up story ??
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ajaysimha,
It would be advisable to seek corollary proof before accepting any statement which does not sound ordinary - particularly in the age where freedom of expression has given birth to intellectual diarrhea of sorts - sometimes without even one's (author's) own conviction.
It would be advisable to seek corollary proof before accepting any statement which does not sound ordinary - particularly in the age where freedom of expression has given birth to intellectual diarrhea of sorts - sometimes without even one's (author's) own conviction.
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For consideration, here are two more 'stories', quoted in an article published in The Hindu !!
1. "As the story goes, once a sage named Haridas asked him to recite the name of Rama 960 million times. Tyagaraja did that and he heard a knock on his door. Rama, Sita and Hanuman entered his prayer room and he was blessed to see the coronation of Rama."
2." When he visited Tirupati, the temple was closed. Disappointed, he sang ‘Teratiyagaraadaa.’ The door opened and the screen fell aside. The temple officials were astounded."
1. "As the story goes, once a sage named Haridas asked him to recite the name of Rama 960 million times. Tyagaraja did that and he heard a knock on his door. Rama, Sita and Hanuman entered his prayer room and he was blessed to see the coronation of Rama."
2." When he visited Tirupati, the temple was closed. Disappointed, he sang ‘Teratiyagaraadaa.’ The door opened and the screen fell aside. The temple officials were astounded."
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Re: Madura nagarilo and thyagarajar
The story is a narrative that explains, the importance of Anandha bhairavi as a pURva prasiddha rAgA in the bhajana sampradAya of Andhra Pradesh. Malladi brothers have talked about it.
RaviSri, SyAmA SAstri as a composer - I found out when trying to enroll in a competition for Sathguru Sangita samAjam, Madurai - after crooning KJY cassettes in my school competition ( for those who deirde competitions).
I did not hear much of any Syama Sastri anywhere. It was much latter in a MA concert for Syama Sastri day by TNS.
But then in the meanwhile I already sang rAmabhadra rA rA in the vIdhi Bhajana based on a TNS Cassette rendition. Your thing about who heard Krishna Leela or KuchipuDi may be true for your small [:cough:] world. We all know how small that is don't we?
But then there are many such other small worlds - so please be mindful of those!
Today a large contingent of IT / Engineer/ Doctor folks from Andhra Pradesh in the U.S will hear Anandha-Bhairavi only through a KuchipuDi performance. Is that a sad thing or happy thing? - you figure!
Lets read the right things out of the stories , instead of anthropologizing our own harikatha exponents!
RaviSri, SyAmA SAstri as a composer - I found out when trying to enroll in a competition for Sathguru Sangita samAjam, Madurai - after crooning KJY cassettes in my school competition ( for those who deirde competitions).
I did not hear much of any Syama Sastri anywhere. It was much latter in a MA concert for Syama Sastri day by TNS.
But then in the meanwhile I already sang rAmabhadra rA rA in the vIdhi Bhajana based on a TNS Cassette rendition. Your thing about who heard Krishna Leela or KuchipuDi may be true for your small [:cough:] world. We all know how small that is don't we?
But then there are many such other small worlds - so please be mindful of those!
Today a large contingent of IT / Engineer/ Doctor folks from Andhra Pradesh in the U.S will hear Anandha-Bhairavi only through a KuchipuDi performance. Is that a sad thing or happy thing? - you figure!
Lets read the right things out of the stories , instead of anthropologizing our own harikatha exponents!
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Re: Madura nagarilo and thyagarajar
Thank you. I would like to share a gem in that ragam by Smt.D.K.PattammaL
It is by Muthuswamy Dikshithar,
https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... -guru-guha
It is a very early vintage record.