Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

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#26 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by Nick H » 25 Mar 2019, 21:50

not giving SK if it finds none deserving that year
Not likely, first due to MA selling its Season Package which includes SK and, second, how, among the hundreds, could there possibly be no-one deserving this year?

Actually, no-one deserving means award ended, because if no-one is deserving this year, how could they become deserving next year?
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#27 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by arasi » 26 Mar 2019, 01:52

Well-said, Nick. A number of them deserve it, of course.
I hope Guruvayur Dorai is honored first....
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#28 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by ramamatya » 26 Mar 2019, 07:37

Nick H wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 21:50
Actually, no-one deserving means award ended, because if no-one is deserving this year, how could they become deserving next year?
What a static/pessimistic stance.

If a Church father has to respond, he would say, "Have faith, my child. Every year is different. In fact, every day is different. If there are none deserving this year, there may be some deserving next year. Times change/improve, people/musicians too."
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#29 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by Sivaramakrishnan » 26 Mar 2019, 12:46

A well justifiable clamour for a posthumous SK award to Mandolin Srinivas has been there since long. It could be announced in addition to the regular awardee of the year.
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#30 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by rupavathi » 26 Mar 2019, 16:49

Well justifiable clamour for posthumous award to MDR, Balachander, TNR, Mali, SKR, Ramnad krishnan, Manakkal.... so many! Best not to open that Pandora's Box.
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#31 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by thanjavooran » 26 Mar 2019, 17:23

T.K. Rangachari is missing in the list.
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#32 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by rupavathi » 26 Mar 2019, 19:11

Thanks, you just proved my point! :)
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#33 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by gajaa » 27 Mar 2019, 05:38

gajaa wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 10:46
Being completely realistic and pragmatic, going by the performers list put out by MMA for 2019 dec, there are only a couple of potential Sangeetha Kalanidhi options. Some assumptions (could be presumptions too) are:
SK has been seen to be awarded predominantly an artiste who is

45-60 AGE BRACKET

1. Currently performing in one of the prime evening slots (AND)
2. Has surpassed a certain level of popularity (AND)
3. Is a major crowd puller (AND)
4. is 45-60 years old (AND)
6. Has not alienated the organization in any significant way / has strong lobbying power
Examples: Sudha Ragunathan, Sanjay Subramanian, Chitravina Ravikiran

(OR)
>60 AGE BRACKET
1. Instrumentalist who has been extraordinary for decades and over 60
2. Vocalist who has been consistently great at least for the past 2 decades(though may not have been a major crowd puller) and is beyond 65-70
Examples: Trichur Ramachandran, TVG Sir, TK Murthy, Umayalpuram Sir, A Kanyakumari, Aruna Sairam (though she is a crowd puller)

Now, I do understand that there are some inherent biases in the above categorization but more or less, I have seen this to be true. Of course, there will be some outliers, but that's what they are, outliers.

Now, if the artiste is <45 years old and singing in the prime slot, they clearly need to wait a bit for the SK please :) So, going by this, I see maximum potential for SK being awarded to:
Among Vocalists & Instrumentalists (who perform solo)
1. Bombay Jayashri
2. Ranjani Gaythri (I know the 45 age bracket may not apply exactly but still, we all know they are current hi-fliers)
3. Malladi Brothers
4. Sowmya
5. Lalgudi Siblings
6. Jayanthi Kumaresh

Among accompanying instrumentalists who have a fair chance,
1. Dr Narmada
2. Dr S Karthik
3. Embar Kannan
4. RK Shriram Kumar

Now, if there are 2 or more ppl of more or less the same age group (within 5 years) who score equally on most parameters, it would be fair to assume that relative seniority might tip the balance in their favor. That way, my guess is

SK 2019: BJ / Lalgudi Siblings are prime contenders
SK 2019: RaGa next
SK 2019: RK Shriram Kumar / Dr Narmada next


Let's see what happens!
So what do you folks think of this analysis ? Pragmatic, realistic ? I wanted to take a calculated guess at what’s most likely to happen. I’m sure that MA will not do away with the award this year or any forthcoming year.
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#34 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by rupavathi » 27 Mar 2019, 09:36

gajaa wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 05:38
So what do you folks think of this analysis ? Pragmatic, realistic ?
Your analysis of probables is pretty accurate, except for one major omission in the 45-60 category: NSG! And as far as seniority goes (in order of first appearance at Academy), the top three are NSG, Vijay Siva & Sowmya. And Vijay is not in the running for extraneous reasons.

As for your conclusions & prediction for 2019, sorry you're off the mark, going by the buzz in the grapevine! ;)
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#35 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by devan » 27 Mar 2019, 11:59

It may be A. K. Palanivel.
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#36 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by Sivaramakrishnan » 02 Apr 2019, 19:36

All popular Vidwans / Vidushis of today are going to be honoured with SK sooner or later. The excitement lies just in the order, that's all.

Thanks, rupavathi (post no. 30 here) for completing the list of the historic 'SK leftouts'!

Isn't it time to wind up the discussion with a mangalam?
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#37 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by Nick H » 02 Apr 2019, 20:05

Mangalam comes only after four or five supposed leaks (that's the thukkadas) and the announcement itself.
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#38 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by hnbhagavan » 05 Apr 2019, 13:28

Do not be sure that all deserving leading Vidwans get SK title.There will be many who will miss.It happenned earlier and will happen again.
Vijaya Siva who definitely deserves the title is not given chance in morning and Evening slots.
OS Thyagarajan perhaps a contender does not figure due to METWO controversy.
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#39 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by mahesu » 22 Apr 2019, 18:09

Thiruvarur ?
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#40 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by ratanabhinav » 24 Apr 2019, 16:09

2014 இல் இருந்து இரண்டு ஆண்களுக்கு அளவுக்கு அதிகமான பாராட்டல் கிடைத்திருக்கின்றது. சஞ்ஜய் மற்றும் மோதீ.
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#41 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by RasikasModerator2 » 27 May 2019, 23:01

No politics and any related personal attacks. That will do.
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#42 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by gajaa » 06 Jun 2019, 14:54

June is here already, Looks like we will know soon?
Insiders, by when is the name going to be announced? something like June 3rd week meeting etc etc is happening to finalize?
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#43 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by K Nagarajan » 06 Jun 2019, 21:20

It appears all were busy speculating the parliament election results all these days. A few names may do the rounds, may be in the next few days but the enthusiasm is less this year in predicting the probable candidate.
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#44 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by gajaa » 10 Jun 2019, 14:17

K Nagarajan wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 21:20
It appears all were busy speculating the parliament election results all these days. A few names may do the rounds, may be in the next few days but the enthusiasm is less this year in predicting the probable candidate.
hmmm also implying that it's most probably not a vocalist I guess.
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#45 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by rbharath » 24 Jun 2019, 16:35

Lets get one thing straight here.
If someone is given an acharya or some such award, no kalanidhi for them.
The very reason for creating an award called Sangeetha Kala Acharya was to recognise multiple artists in a year and to make sure that deserving people do not miss getting awarded. Hence, if someone has been given Sangeetha Kala Acharya, no kalanidhi for them.
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#46 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by rbharath » 24 Jun 2019, 16:39

mahesu wrote:
22 Apr 2019, 18:09
Thiruvarur ?
you want the award to be given to the town of Thiruvarur?
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#47 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by Nick H » 24 Jun 2019, 16:46

It will be a little difficult for it to preside. There won't be enough room :lol:
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#48 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by rbharath » 24 Jun 2019, 16:53

Nick H wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 16:46
It will be a little difficult for it to preside. There won't be enough room :lol:
:lol: :lol:
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#49 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by matterwaves » 25 Jun 2019, 09:17

Mysore Nagaraj amongst instrumentalists.. guess he has time on his side.. but if it is tmk and some others, then he must be a contender too.
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#50 Re: Sangita Kalanidhi 2019

Post by matterwaves » 25 Jun 2019, 09:17

Mysore Nagaraj amongst instrumentalists.. guess he has time on his side.. but if it is tmk and some others, then he must be a contender too.
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