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#101 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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Here is a presentation by the students of Madurai T Srinivasan with some tamizh uruppaDis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGSWdBTxqo

The ranjani one - the second item sounds like tillAna - if the cittA svarams could be replaced with jatis.

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#102 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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A vintage 78 rpm record by Smt.D.K.PttammaL
https://youtu.be/2xygPJpja9E

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#103 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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https://blog.msstribute.org/ms-repertoi ... vasadanam/
These are some of the songs by Smt.M.S.Subbulakshmi , in her first film -1938- produced by Director K.Subramanyam and Sri.T.Sdasivam.
It was not a glamorous role! and not at all based on Premchand novel. ( as we are wont to be misled by wikipedia) She was the wife of a poor and jealous clerk who drives her out of the house . A sympathetic stage-singer encourages her to take up the career of a carnatic music singer . she becomes a roaring success and establishes SEVA SADHANAM a free hostel for destitute girls.
1) guha saravana bhava - Simmendramadhyamam
2) unnuruvam kal andri
3) aatharavatravekkellaam
audio clips are available at
https://blog.msstribute.org/ms-repertoi ... vasadanam/

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#104 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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hAtakAmbari kritI of SrI kOTISvara Iyer - ALalAkAtA, by Vid. SrIranjani SantAnagOpAlan

https://youtu.be/qBiNZypm5dY?t=3199

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#105 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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A composition by Dr SR, by his disciple Dr Sowmya :

https://youtu.be/bArML7EdnOc?t=10795

ADiDum arasE - has atIta anchors all over !

atItams : para || mAnandam, tan || dOm
vADiDum pa | yir
patan || jaliyum
nAnmugan kait || tALam
vandanai sey || tamarar nADa

SaSabda kriyA cross overs- where atIta is elongated:

tan ||,dOm
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#106 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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Aayar kula chiruvan
vintage 78 rpm record by Smt.D.K.PattammaaL
https://youtu.be/gVvqnrEur64

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#107 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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Chembai Vaidyanatha Bagavathar
https://youtu.be/gVvqnrEur64
APKoil N Sapthagireesan's upload
un perumai (composition by Lalitha Daasar)
kalyaaNi ragam

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#108 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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A nice sAhitya in prAcIna kaRNATaka Suddha hindOLam or varamu ( based on a paN name - I believe) by mahAkavi SubramhaNya bhArathi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORDX_M5IqLU

Tuned by SrI TNS, this is rendered by Vid. Sunil Gargeyan with nice svarakalpana , which is not just rhythmic , but highlights intervals as well and rhythmic slides in pallavi line also during refrains.

TNS sings it as sAgA varamum aruLvai - a pun on the plight of the rAgA itself which needs to be brought to life back!

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#109 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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https://youtu.be/ekoHDrBike8
M.M.DandapaNi Desikar
"manamE unakk-hitamAi.
rAgA: vandanadhAriNI.
rUpaka tALA.
Gopalakrishna Bharati.
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(transliteration by Lakshman_ji)
P: manamE unakk-hitamAi oru vArtai sholgirEn kETTukkoL
A: kanaka sabhaiyil natanam puriyum kamala phalattai kattukkoL
C: nATTamuDanE kanaka sabhaiyil nambikkai enru nADikkoL nanmai tImai ozhindu naLum jnAnakkalaiyai tEDikkoL
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reverse transliteration ( by rsr) ( corrections requested)
மனமே உனக்கு இதமாய் ஒரு வார்த்தை சொல்கிறேன்
கேட்டுக்கொள்
கனக சபையில் நடனம் புரியும் கமல பலத்தை கற்றுக்கொள்

நாட்டமுடனே கனகசபையில் நம்பிக்கை என்று நாடிக்கொள்
நன்மை தீமை ஒழிந்து ,நாளும் ,ஞானக் கலையைத் தேடிக்கொள்

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#110 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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Adhrishtam Vandhittavudan 78 rpm
https://youtu.be/3uzDnby70v4
M.S.Subbulakshmi - very early record
Maand Ragam ( info by CRama)
upload by APKoil N Sapthagireesan

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#111 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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I would like to know whether the words are kamala balattai or kamala phalattai in this context. This is a problem with Tamil texts. Thanks.

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#112 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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MMD sings this as kamalapadaththaik kAththukkoL (கமல பதத்தைக் காத்துக்கொள்). I feel that the meaning is " hold and preserve the lotus feet'. I feel that kamalapAdaththai should be the correct version. padam means exalted holy place. pAdam means feet.

In RVR's posting English transliteration is correct. The Tamil version kamala palaththa kaRrukkoL (கமலபலத்தை கற்றுக்கொள்) is wrong.

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#113 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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@Govindaswamy
1) Thank you Sir. I am RSR and not RVR.
2)
The English transliteration is by Sri.Lakshman_ji. I just tried the reverse transliteration into Tamizh.
3) Your version of the doubtful lines seems more appropriate.
'kamala paadhatthaik kattikkoL' ( 'surrender and take very tight hold of those dncing feet for your salvation') in free translation. 'piditthukkoL
I have long held that while transliterating Tamizh songs, we must avoid the usual transliteration scheme adopted for all the other major Indian languages.
Thamizh language is indeed very special.

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#114 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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Thanks Govindaswamy. I cheched the words in Tamizh Isai Padalgal vol 6 and the words are indeed kamala padattai kAttukkoL.

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#115 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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@110,
Lyrics for the very early record in Maand ragam .
Corrections are welcome.
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அதிர்ஷ்டம் வந்திட்டவுடன் கண் தெரியாது -
அது மாத்திரம் அல்ல காதும் கேக்காது
பதட்டம் மிகுந்து நல்ல வாயும் பேசாது -
பார் புள்ளி ஏசுவாறும் யார்க்கும் கப்பாது

தந்தை தாய் குரு தெய்வ சன்னதி பணியார்
.. சாதுக்கள் தவத்தினோர் தர்சனம் காணார்
சிந்தை இழுத்தபடி செல்லவும் துணிவார்
செல்வம் பேர் என்பதெல்லாம் நல்ல பேர் அல்ல என்றறியார்

ஈடற்ற தருமத்தைச் செய்யாத போது
தீக்கொள்ளை ,தண்டனைக்குச் சேரும், தப்பாது
காதற்ற ஊசியும் கூட வராது
கடவுளுக்கு பயந்து நடப்பீர் இப்போது.

பொன்னும் பெண்ணும் பூமியும் பொய்யாகும் மனமே
புண்ணிய பாவமே நம்பின் வரும் மனமே
மின்னுவதற்கு இன்பம் திரும்புவாய் தினமே
மேன்மை தரும் பாஸ்கர நாம கீர்த்தனமே

அதிர்ஷ்டம் வந்திட்டவுடன்.

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#116 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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மேன்மை தரும் வாசக தமிழ் கீர்த்தனமே

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#117 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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M.S SUBBULAKSHMI- TAMIL ISAI SANGHAM CONCERT 1968.

This is direct radio relay of the concert- first two three songs are missing. Probably the relay started after those songs. Accompanists

V.V.Subramaniam
T.K.Murthy
T.H.Vinyakram
V.Nagarajan- Ganjira
Mannrgudi Ganesa Pillai- Morsing.

The song list.

Devi Neeye tunai- Keeravani (R,N,S)
Ekkalathilum maravene- Natakurinji (R)
Saranam saranam endrane- Chakravakam
Adum Deivam nee arulvay- Kambodi (R,N,S)
Vinayakuni- Madhyamavathy (R,N,S)
Karthikeya Gangeya- Thodi (R,N,S)
Thani
Bhogeendrasayinam- Kunthalavarali
Akhilandeswari- Dwijavanthi

One of the best concerts of MS Amma with many of her favourite songs and a few songs which can not be heard very frequently- like Adum Deivam, Ekkalathilum, Vinayakuni- that too with the necessary manodharmam elements. The alapanas are all captivating and follow different pattern. For instance, the alapana of Keeravani and Madhyamavathy do not follow step by step unfolding of the ragam. The key phrases are presented in a random order and with the choicest brighas and gamakams they portray a bright picture of the ragams.

Kambodi and Thodi are presented in a step by step method giving us a wholesome picture of the ragams. M.S. voice comes out the best in the recording- comparable with the U.N.concert or even the earlier 78 rpm recordings. Her abundant manodharmam, brighas, nagaswara pidis, gamakms and with a gay abandan in her vocalisation- many times there will be restraint. Normally, her neravals and swaras will have a restraint- Here very elaborate neraval and swaras for Adum Deivam and Karthikeya Gangeya which I have never seen in her post 1970 concerts.

I would have heard at least 50 times this Kambodi and Thodi in last two months. Thought of sharing with my rasikas.

Link - https://youtu.be/VZ9P9Tap_jU

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#118 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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Thanks to Prathyaksham-Bala

@Pratyaksham Bala

https://periscope-narada.blogspot.com/2 ... lladi.html
A song by Smt.Ambujam Krushna- ragamalika
sung by Smt.M.SSubbulakshmi
( from saregama- collection- of MS Songs- donated to 'tube'
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Sri.P.Bala has given the tube link.
and Periscope gives the raga names.
and the lyrics in tamizh script.
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Link will be added in first edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MJuwkOPqc

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#119 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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RSR wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 11:57 Devi Neeye tunai- Keeravani (R,N,S)
one can observe the accompanying style of SrI TKM for this song! He explained how the styles have changed, when prodded during his recent talk (parivadini), somewhat reluctantly, that those days first there will be a pressing round (amuttutal), before they descend to any nadai/kala variation. Now alas he lamented , people are doing a (tabla type - my words) gumki even at the start as soon as they hear a gamaka.

One can see how MSS expresses herself in that mode for pallavi quite elongated in her kArvais/brighas.

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#120 Re: We need more tamil songs!

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https://youtu.be/N5ejc-H09io

Mannum imayamalai engaL malaiye-...
ponnoLir Baratha Nadengal Naade
Potruvam ithai, emallili eedae!
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Poorna gyaanam politha Nannaadu
Buddhar piran aruL pongiya Naadu
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Baaratha Naadu pazham perum Naade
paduvam ithai emakkillai eedae!
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A classic example of wonderful theme, lovely lyrics, great orchestration by S,V.Venkataraman, Inimitable rendering by the one and only Smt.MS and fine ragam Chenchurutti , favourite of Smt.MS
Full lyrics can be got from ( 21)
https://sites.google.com/site/homage2mssubbulakshmi
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