Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

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#1 Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by ajaysimha » 23 Apr 2019, 20:32

hi rasikas,

i have heard a few compositions that are started with anupallavi instead of pallavi

for example

kritis:
bAla kanakamaya (Ela nI dayarAdu)
citra ratnamaya(mitri bhAgyamE)
manasija mAnasa(jananI ninnu vinA)

padams:
OsOsi nAmadi(kAshiki poyyEnE)
ninnu jUci(ninnu jUDa)
neyyamuna kailAsa(ayyayyO marapAyana)


could anybody shed some light on this convention of singing kritis
also need a few more compositions that are sung in this way.

thanks,
ajay simha
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#2 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by Lakshman » 23 Apr 2019, 22:30

sAkSAtkAra nI sadbhakti (mOkSamu galadA)-KVN
ati mrdutara satya (patiki hAratIrE)-Nedunuri
pavamAna sutuDu (nI nAma rUpamulaku)-All artists
vanaja nayana mOmunu (nanu pAlimpa)-Can't recall who sang it this way.
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#3 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by shripathi_g » 24 Apr 2019, 02:43

MDR used to do this a lot especially for fast-paced songs. Some examples

1. cadavi vEda shAatrOpanishattula for Padavini
2. krpajEsi nA manavAlagincikI - Aparadhamu
3. gIrvANa nATakAlankAra - Ksheenamai
4. shruti moraliDa lEd - Natajana Paripala
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#4 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by ganesh_mourthy » 25 Apr 2019, 13:33

sAkSAtkAra nI sadbhakti sangIta jnAna vihInulaku

It is a divine take of point that I heard nedunuri or KV narayanasami , I dont quite remember.

I have heard people start with the second line of pallavi . Just for a change.
It is more common with Thukkadas. Sudha the other day started with un ananda mohana venuganam adhil.

Starting with saranam leaves you pleasantly lost for a while until it dawns on you.

It is akin to someone doing a pecaboo. If it a welcome person it is pleasant .. and with some it can be annoying too.

This method works to create a mood shift for a short moment,
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#5 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by ajaysimha » 25 Apr 2019, 14:42

and one more
pavanaja stuti pAtra (sItA kalyANa vaibhOgamE)

thanks lakshman ji.
shripathi_g wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 02:43
MDR used to do this a lot especially for fast-paced songs. Some examples
yeah, it would a very nice start for fast-paced songs,
also the as they say in tamil "katcheri-um kala kattum"
ganesh_mourthy wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 13:33
It is akin to someone doing a pecaboo. If it a welcome person it is pleasant .. and with some it can be annoying too.

This method works to create a mood shift for a short moment,
totally agree!! it brings a kind of adbutha rasa!!

also if there is any kind of eduppu problem or if the pallavi is slow paced
then that problem can be solved by starting with anupallavi

but i have observed this liberty is usually taken in saint thyagaraja krithis.
and not much in other composers' krithis.
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#6 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by CRama » 25 Apr 2019, 15:54

The glitch in this starting from the Anupallavi is that many times the musicians slip the cascading sangatis in the pallavi when it follows the anupallavi. (Eg. Mokshamugalada). The full weight of the kriti is compromised. and made as a filler song.
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#7 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by CRama » 25 Apr 2019, 15:57

I have heard old timers telling me that this has been imported from the drama theatres. I have heard that irrespective of the story line, hero will come to the stage singing Sakshatkara nee.... and similar songs which start from the mel sthayi for a better effect on the audience. Let that remain with the drama stage.
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#8 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by CRama » 25 Apr 2019, 16:01

Many padams follow this tradition..
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#9 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by ajaysimha » 25 Apr 2019, 16:46

CRama wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 15:57
I have heard old timers telling me that this has been imported from the drama theatres. I have heard that irrespective of the story line, hero will come to the stage singing Sakshatkara nee.... and similar songs which start from the mel sthayi for a better effect on the audience. Let that remain with the drama stage.
nice info sir!!
i have also seen this way of singing in a few harikathas
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#10 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by Sivaramakrishnan » 25 Apr 2019, 17:59

CRama wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 16:01
Many padams follow this tradition..
Starting Padams with Anupallavi has an altogether different connotation (from the key import of the theme). Moreover the Pallavi warrants complete handling and no short-cut is appreciated. Most Padams are identified by the Anupallavi sahitya rather than the Pallavi verse.
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#11 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by thanjavooran » 25 Apr 2019, 19:42

CRama wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 15:57
I have heard old timers telling me that this has been imported from the drama theatres. I have heard that irrespective of the story line, hero will come to the stage singing Sakshatkara nee.... and similar songs which start from the mel sthayi for a better effect on the audience. Let that remain with the drama stage.
This is SG Kittappa style. My sister used to mention this very often. He will sing from the green room Evarani from Anupallavi. Those days no mike/ sound system. Audience can hear his top pitch voice clearly.
Similarly in my childhood days in Thanjavoor Big Temple I have seen some other troupe with the same technique followed by SG Kittappa
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#12 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by ajaysimha » 01 May 2019, 20:26

And one more
sompaina manasutO (callarE rAmacandru)
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#13 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by VK RAMAN » 02 May 2019, 23:35

Good topic - Any reason why Anupallavi first - just to bring speed to the end or to awaken sleeping audience.
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#14 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by sureshvv » 03 May 2019, 12:09

As you know, there are only two kinds of rasikas. Those that want the same blissful experience that they are already so familiar with and those that want to be surprised with a new experience as frequently as possible. Depending on which side of the fence you happen to be, your mileage may vary :D
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#15 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by shankarank » 06 May 2019, 04:36

artha puSHTi increases! that is the reason. As pointed out by Dr. Lokanatha Sarma in one of his lec dems, bOdincina sanmArga vacanamula start for the pancaratnam, completes the sentence with the Pallavi.
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#16 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by ajaysimha » 06 May 2019, 09:58

shankarank wrote:
06 May 2019, 04:36
artha puSHTi increases!
point to be noted!!!

And one more
enduku chapalamu (endu dAginADu)
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#17 Re: Singing a Kriti Starting with Anupallavi

Post by RSR » 08 May 2019, 12:43

ajaysimha wrote:
23 Apr 2019, 20:32
hi rasikas,
i have heard a few compositions that are started with anupallavi instead of pallavi
for example
kritis:
bAla kanakamaya (Ela nI dayarAdu)
It is a lovely kriti.
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