Question on a scale...

vasya10 · Post by **vasya10** » 16 Mar 2006, 21:08

Is there a scale that goes like (for eg lets say janya of shankarabharanam)

(aro) s g p n s - (avaro) s d m r s

except for s, the aro and avaro dont have any common svaras. If such a scale already exists, any compositions on that ? im not that imaginative, so i would like to know how this scale sounds.

thanks!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 16 Mar 2006, 22:53

dear vasya
The idea of starting a technical section is to pose questions of this sort to set folks thniking as well as innovate. Would you lke to pose this there so that there may be more viewings as well as responses too!).

I like the idea and look forward to the answers.

Incidentally what happened to that superb raga engine? Is it out of the workshop?

sunayanaa · Post by **sunayanaa** » 17 Mar 2006, 01:37

The minimum number of notes in arhoahanm/avarohanam of a scale is 5 (Owdavam), as per established tradition of carnatc music.

Few raga composers such as Balamurali who want to break tradition have composed with just 4 notes.

The raga example you have suggested is non-standard. Not sure if such a raga exists.

vasya10 · Post by **vasya10** » 17 Mar 2006, 02:33

cmlover:

thanks, i saw the "Tech Discussion" thread only after your reply, im still catching up with someof the old threads, trying to understand the beauty of sri odeyar's kritis etc... You are right, this thread belongs there....

srkris, can you pls move this thread there.

the raga engine is being updated to use a new db.. heres hoping to get it back online by next month...

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 17 Mar 2006, 18:20

One such raga with minimum swaras is Devendra Chakravaham:

Sa Ga Pa Ni (ascending)
Sa Ni Pa Ga (descending)

"Adhisaya Ragam" - the Tamil Movie Song sung by KJY is in this raga, with music composed by MS Viswanathan. In the midst of the song, you will find the words "Indira Logathu Chakravaham " which is the name of the raga.

The second one, the raga of which I do not know, but Sivaraman would know is "Umasutham Namami" composed by BMK. It has only the following swaras:

Sa Ma Pa (A)
Pa Ma Sa (D)

Kaumaaram

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 17 Mar 2006, 20:36

Kaumaaram
That second one created by BMK If I am not wrong is called Sarva sri..

Sivaraman · Post by **Sivaraman** » 22 Mar 2006, 16:25

That's right.It is Sarvasri.
This is a commercially released album.But it is available in Musicindiaonline.
Click the link below for the same:

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/1/m/ragam.557/

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 23 Mar 2006, 01:02

The raga designed by BMK for athisaya ragam was called mahati. He named it after his daughter. Here is the quote from
http://www.geocities.com/promiserani2/ragasm.html

mahati

28 harikaambhOji janya
Aa: S G3 P N2 S
Av: S N2 P G3 S
Songs:
Created by Baalamuralikrishna
A swaraantara-swaraantara raaga (only 4 notes in both aarOha and avarOha).

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 23 Mar 2006, 01:11

Isn't mahatI the name of nAradA's vINA?
Ravi

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 23 Mar 2006, 23:51

That too may have influenced BMK!