Varnams

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chithra
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Post by chithra » 26 Jun 2005, 23:37

Dear Sangeetha Rasikas:

I am new here, and I would like to start this thread on Varnams. Srkris, please feel free to move it to a better place should you so decide.

I have a request to you all:

many are the varnams that have been composed by the greats in Carnatic Music, but only few seem to be included in the concert platform. After Brinda-Mukta, MDR, SSI, no one appears to render Varnams in Yadukulakambhoji, NarayanaGowla, Ananda Bhairavi (respectively) anymore. Of course, I could be mistaken because I live abroad, and do not get to listen to many concerts anymore. Varnams are truly scholarly pieces, and a must for any CM aspirant / practitioner. Thiruvotriyur Thyagayyar, Veenai Kuppaiyer, Pattinam Subramania Iyer have composed many varnams, but very few of these compositions are known to the public at large. Syama Sasthry has 4 / 5 beautiful varnams, of which only Begada seems to have seen the light of the day.

Is it possible to share unusual varnams in this forum - please? Those of you who have extensive personal archives, would you please, please dig and excavate these treasures and make them known to everbody?

Lastly, but not the least, thank you all Mahanubhavulu for the extraordinary service you are rendering to CM itself and to the current and future generation of CM lovers. Words are insufficient to express the deep gratitude I feel towards all of you for your time, knowledge and generosity.

Chithra
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Post by cmlover » 27 Jun 2005, 00:21

To start with if you are not already aware, the nice collection of standard varnams by Sivakumar at the site
http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivk ... ml#varnams

Our standard resource for unusual varnams is Lakshmanji.
I do hope our folks will share whatever we have with you. GOOD LUCK!
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Post by chithra » 27 Jun 2005, 04:33

Thank you, cmlover, for the link. As you pointed out, Sivakumar has the standard ones. One of my books lists Varnams in ragams like Hemavathy, Lalitha, Simhendra Madhyamam, Janaranjini, Bahudari, Poornachandrika, Kannada, Amruthavarshini, Ghana Navaragamalikai (it has both sets of Ghanaragams) etc. etc. Unlike Kruthys, which one can figure how to sing from notation, Varnams require a teacher or at least its audio version (for me).

I have uploaded a beautiful Ata Thaala varnam in Reethigowlai, by TNS, though most folks may already have it. Here is the link:
Vanajaksha_Reethigowlai_Ata_TNS

Let me see what else I have in mp3 form, and I will upload them over time.

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Post by poongavur » 27 Jun 2005, 04:33

the link seems to be down.
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Post by chithra » 27 Jun 2005, 04:47

It was (and, is) working, Poongavaur. I had forgotten to give it as a link. Do try now.

Chithra
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Post by poongavur » 27 Jun 2005, 04:55

Thanks Chithra. Your link is working fine and I am able to download the reethigowla varnam by TNS. But I meant sivakumar's link to varnams (in fact all his pages seem down for the past few weeks -- at least I have been trying but not able to access them) :(
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Post by Lakshman » 27 Jun 2005, 05:24

A varNa list that I compled ia available here:
http://www.geocities.com/promiserani2/varnams.html
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Post by chithra » 27 Jun 2005, 10:05

Thanks, Lakshman, for the link. I will check it out. Meanwhile, if any audio of old / rare varnams is available and is shared - that would be wonderful.
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Post by coolkarni » 29 Jun 2005, 12:50

chitra
i open my account with a delightful one in mandari by MLV.
http://rapidshare.de/files/2671580/Mandari.mp3.html

One artist I was so fortunate to hear in concerts (and had the sense to skip dinner and not run behind the last 13 B bus from Music academy to T nagar AND LISTEN TO HER IN FULL, RIGHT UP TO THE MANGALAM!)

At other times I remember my learned friends rushing for MDR Concerts -making Sure they were on Time ( MDR's concert ! O boy , the Varnams are not to be missed , I could hear their voices loud and clear as they zipped past me)( and i was such an idiot not to go with them) :cry:

Strangely one does not come across semmangudis concerts with varnams frequently.I wonder why.
In all my years of listening I can remember only Suruti, Abhogi and may be one more
Any way here are some mixed up tracks of varnams.(NO I AM NOT TRYING TO HOODWINK OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER WITH FEWER UPLOADS!
i am just trying to reduce the number of clips since all of them are 3-4 minute versions.
It may also prompt some more opening up after the downloads.
For those who are very very curious,
artists featured are TRS, Pasupathi and Somu
ragas are Sama,Nayaki,Sriranjini,Natakuiranji,Kanada,Kalyani,Kadanakuthoohala,Behag,Hamsadhwani and Sivranjini
(track 3 has a problem between 12th-16th minute-please ignore it)
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Post by coolkarni » 29 Jun 2005, 22:28

just received permission to use pinakapanis recorded interviews/lectures in this forum.
in fact such a use of this material has been immensely appreciated.
More such tracks-lessons recorded over the years have been pledged for use here and elsewhere.
Further developments are expected in August 2005, when these sources visit India and Chennai
Your Download-Link: http://rapidshare.de/files/2683188/001A ... m.mp3.html
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Post by chithra » 29 Jun 2005, 22:52

Sri Coolkarni:

I cannot thank you enough for your uploads. It has made my day! Ippo enakku thaliakaal puriyalai - avvalavi santhosham!

Will download and listen to them, and let you know; if necessary, will post re: who has sung what..

MLV is one of my absolute favourites - she was an incredible musician, esp. in manodharmam, and an equally grand human being. I shall forever regret her untimely demise.

Chithra
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Post by cmlover » 29 Jun 2005, 23:38

coolkarni

These uploads will be appreciated by Rasikas as well as Musicologists. Our thanks to you for bringing them to public light and to the folks for giving the permissions. It goes to prove that CM is both an art as well as a science.
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Post by meena » 29 Jun 2005, 23:51

kulkurnaji

the elementary school teacher also thanks u!
u really missed sree mdr concert??? oh boy!
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Post by rshankar » 30 Jun 2005, 03:03

OK! Thank you Meena and Chithra. Here is the first of the files I uploaded. I am not sure if someone has already done so: this is from a live concert of ARI. If someone else has uploaded, I apologize.
http://rapidshare.de/files/2602357/01_v ... A.m4a.html
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Post by kalgada78 » 30 Jun 2005, 05:04

Kulkarni Sir,
The Varnam Collection you uploaded is awesome!!
Iam hearing Kadanakutoohalam Varnam for the first Time..
Do you have any one rendering varnams in
Narayana gowla and Ahiri?I know that there are grand
Ata Tala varnams in these ragas but don't know if anyone
sang.
Thanks once again Kulkarni Sir,for those gems.
Parvati.
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Post by divakar » 30 Jun 2005, 05:51

kulkarniji
thanks for the four tracks of varnams
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Post by meena » 30 Jun 2005, 05:56

Lji
Kadanakuthoohala varna who is the composer? thanku
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Post by coolkarni » 30 Jun 2005, 06:06

am hearing Kadanakutoohalam Varnam for the first Time..
such a lovely singer - D Pasupathi
i had the pleasure of listening to him a few times , though In kancheepuram-the only sabha there operates on the terrace of ramas cafe-right across where adyar anand bhavan stands today.
Since the chimney is not very far away, there iis an added flavour to the concerts - i mean the fragrance of masala dosa, uthapapam etc.
There is one another unique tradition .right behind the artist is a blackboard with a chalkpiece.as the artist starts the alapana or kriti, anyone who knows the identity of the raga can walk up while the performance is on and write the name.If no one ventures then the artist pauses to announce the raga name after say 3-4 minutes from the start.
As a youngster i have attended a large number of chamber music concerts in HM in my hometown.Pasupathi is one CM artist who embodies that spirit with small gatherings-he can be electric! as he sings a kriti like say endaro Mahanubhavulu, I felt as though I had sung it myself.Such was the audio-visual experience-pure devotion at its best.
I am told That kalkshetra has MDRs lectures -with demos by pasupathi to go with Them(Divakar-Meena- are you listening)
Wonder if they will go the way of the Academy concerts and tamil Isai sangam concerts....
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Post by coolkarni » 30 Jun 2005, 06:42

u really missed sree mdr concert??? oh boy!
meena

I MISSED THEM.MY FATHER DID NOT (ATLEAST THE AIR ONES)
i have posted a nice one for you and divakar AT AIR THREAD
---on a holiday for uploads !!!!
:lol:
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Post by cmlover » 30 Jun 2005, 09:39

coolkarni

Lecdems are off the quota. I am sure the school teacher will agree :D
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Post by meena » 30 Jun 2005, 10:08

Well the Principal has spoken, its upto Executive Director ;)
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Post by coolkarni » 30 Jun 2005, 12:18

now that the exclusive-for carnatic music forum-x drive is fast becoming a reality , i have no reason for haste anymore.we have all the time in the world.
I am now beginning to see the wisdom of the quota system
we will settle down to a nice madhyama kala tempo....
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chithra
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Post by chithra » 30 Jun 2005, 12:27

Would some kind soul explain these coded exchanges - quota system....?

Oh, I see a glimmer - scheduled uploads - is that it? Please shed some light on it .

Kalgada/Parvathi, the Ata thaala varnam in Narayanagowlai, Maguve, has often been rendered by Sri MDR. Could you tell me who composed the Ahiri varnam? What is is its thaalam? Given the bhava of Ahiri I wonder if the Brinda-Muktha school ever sang it? If it was rendered in the Thanjavur Bhani maybe Sri Pinakapani's renditions and talks would be illuminating. It is a lovely ragam - a varnam in it be a audio boon to mine ears.

Chithra
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Post by coolkarni » 30 Jun 2005, 12:38

forget the quotas.
TIME TO TEST THE X DRIVE

MANAKKAL RANGARAJANS LOVELY KHAMBOJI VARNA IS ON AT


http://plus.xdrive.com/u/166915332/1089 ... KNPWRfsWiT

NEED FEEDBACK
(I DONT KNOW HOW TO DOWNLOAD FROM X DRIVE MYSELF) :?:
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