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davalangi
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#101

Post by davalangi » 09 Jul 2005, 19:51

Chithra - There should be no copyright issues involved with sharing the melaragamalika audio CDs. Initially the intent of selling the CDs was to recover material/time costs and also use the funds to make more such rare recordings. The amount charged was also nominal - $15 for 2 mp3 CDs (~ 9 hrs). We haven't sold any copies in a while now. I guess it is being a bit unfair to the people who have already bought it....but hopefully a bigger audience can be reached in a forum like this, the main goal now being to distribute the 'wealth' :)

Here is a link to Subbarama Dikshitar's SuraTi varnam (also in rUpakam). SRJ is supported by Ashwin & Rohin Iyer, Sri.Easwaran on the mridangam and Sri.Chandramouli on the violin.

http://rapidshare.de/files/2921603/sura ... m.mp3.html
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#102

Post by cmlover » 09 Jul 2005, 20:17

Dear davalangi
it is wonderful to make available Prof SRJ's lectures and demonstarions for the benefit of the CM community. As far as my limited knowledge goes he is the greatest living authority on classical CM and it is imperative that we capture and preserve his thoughts and lectures for posterity. From a historical perspective may I request you (Ashwin too!) to chronicle the background of these materials (i.e., when where how and why). It will be of great academic interest to a future CM historian.

Thank you!
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davalangi
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#103

Post by davalangi » 10 Jul 2005, 00:35

As a follow-up to the suraTi varNam, here is SRJ talking about suraTi rAgam (using the same varNam as an illustrative example) in one of his lecdems on "Role of gamakas".

http://rapidshare.de/files/2927823/surati.mp3.html
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divakar
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#104

Post by divakar » 10 Jul 2005, 01:02

davalangi: thanks for the varNams

Lakshmanji: few corrections (queries)

1. inta calamu - kAmbhOji varNam

P: inta calamu jEsEya idi meragAdurA
A: kAntuDaina shrI tuLajEndra kanuDI (saradaya) bhOjEndra
C: cinnanATi modalukoni

SRJ sings somewhere close to these. pl. correct me.

2. vanajAkSa - varALi varNam:
in anupallavi the first word is 'manasunci' not 'manasukE'

3. nenarunci yElukOrA - biLahari varNam

P: nenarunci yElukOrA ninnE namminadanarA
C: cinnanATi modalu cittamu (rAnaduvEla mEna)
minnagA sAmantula meppincaga lEdO

PS: i doubt those in paranthesis
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nnramya
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#105

Post by nnramya » 10 Jul 2005, 01:55

Davalangi and Ashwin,
Thankyou for sharing those wonderful varnams and excerpts.


>>all other uploads of lecdems have been put on hold by me.they all can wait.
(the last one was rajams talk on koteeswara iyer.hopefully it will be discussed over the next week.) <<

Dear Mr.Kulkarni,
Seemed to have missed that lec-dem by S.Rajam on Koteeswara Iyer. Is it still accessible? Can you direct me to its location?

Thank you so much!

--------------
Oops! Mr.Kulkarni - I got the lec-dem.....did not read the post in the other thread earlier.

Sorry!!!
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chithra
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#106

Post by chithra » 10 Jul 2005, 06:48

Davalangi:

Glad to know that there are no copyright concerns - great idea to spread SRJ's incredible erudition. He is a witty speaker too - his lec dems are educational and entertaining. Hope we get to hear them here. As CML points out we must record, preserve and share the scholarship of such musicians for ourselves and for posterity. Has that not always been India's weak point - lack of recorded / written history, and an absence of concern for the same?

Chithra
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chithra
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#107

Post by chithra » 10 Jul 2005, 10:20

Meena:

Thanks much for sharing MDR's rendition of the Sri Ranjani Varnam. Downloaded it this evening, and I am enjoying it as I write. The sound is so clear - who are the accompanists, and when and where did the concert take place? Any chance of sharing the concert?

BTW, this Sri Ranjani remimds me of MDR's rendition of Thyagaraja Swamy's Brocheva - he renders it with an unique and distinctively-MDR flair.

Mikka, mikka manamarndha nandri, Meena

Chithra
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meena
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#108

Post by meena » 10 Jul 2005, 11:10

chitra

Glad to learn u are enjoying the clip. I listen to this clip everyday (a ritual) and my favorite piece.

Only he can render a kriti so well, simple yet elegant. I can go on and on about him. :)

sorry ,I do not have info. regarding the accompanists/concert.

btw. he has composed a kriti in rAgA SrIranjani -vighna rAja vinutara.
yet again a wonderful kriti.
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#109

Post by meena » 10 Jul 2005, 11:40

chithra,

The accomp. are: V. Thiagarajan (violin) and Madras A. Kannan on mrudangam.
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#110

Post by chithra » 10 Jul 2005, 11:54

btw. he has composed a kriti in rAgA SrIranjani -vighna rAja vinutara.
yet again a wonderful kriti.
Meena, whom are you referring to - MDR / Tiger? If you have it, any chance of your sharing? The only krithi composed by MDr that I know of is Saagara Sayana Vibho - beautiful Bagesree. I love to hear KVN' rendition.

Thank for the info - much appreciated

Chithra
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#111

Post by meena » 10 Jul 2005, 12:05

vighna rAja vinutara- composed by mdr. Sorry

to listen to few mdr compositions :
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chithra
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#112

Post by chithra » 10 Jul 2005, 12:14

Merci, Meena - Chithra
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nnramya
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#113

Post by nnramya » 10 Jul 2005, 16:29

Dear Chitra,
MDR has composed around 300 compositions. It was almost lost.....it was lying in the dust somewhere in some organisation and recently was unearthed due to the persistent efforts of his son and some other individuals.

He has written them in some 12 books or something...cant recall exactly. The most popular is Sagara Shayana - Bageshri.

He has rendered some in his concerts. A few you may recognise :

1. Harium haranum - Attana
2. Rama Rama - Neelambari
3. Gajavadana - Hamsadhwani
4. Mayamma - Ranjani
5. Thyagaraja gurum - Kedaram
6. Manasa sri ramuni - Bowli
7. Nanda gopa - Kaapi
8. Kaapi thillana

and Sagara Shayana, of course!

I'll send you some links to articles abt his compositions.

Regards,
Ramya.
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nnramya
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#114

Post by nnramya » 10 Jul 2005, 16:38

M.D.Ramanathan Alphabetical List


Aparadhamulellanu Gowrimanhohari Aadi
Bhaja Bhaja Manuja Behag Aadi
Bharatesanute Arabhi Misra Chapu
Brindavanaloka Kalyani Aadi
Brochudaku Samayaide Begada Rupaka
Dandapani Ramapriya Rupaka
Dari Neevale Begada Rupaka
Dharmavathi Dharmavathi Rupaka
Durgadevi Sri Aadi
Emdukichapalamu Purvikalyani Aadi
Ennakutram cheideno Huseni Aadi
Gajavadana Hamsadhwani Rupaka
Gurucharanam Kannada Aadi
Guruvaram Bhaja Manasa Dhanyasi Rupakam
Hariyum Haranam Atana Rupakam
Innamum Begada Aadi
Jagadambike Kedaram Rupakam
Janani Natajanapalini Sankarabharanam Misra Chapu
Jaya Jaya Sri Vasanta Triputa
Kamalakshi Sankarabharanam Jhampa
Kanda unakkinda Thodi Aadi
Krishnananda Mukunda Kharaharapriya Misra Chapu
Lalithe Natakurinji Misra Chapu
Mahadeva Abhogi Aadi
Manamai Ramanai Sindhu Bhairavi Misra Chapu
Manasa Sriramuni Bhupalam Aadi
Mayamma Ranjani Rupakam
Narayananenru Sollu Desh Misra Chapu
Neepadamula Nera Nammiti Chakravakam Jhampa
Neranammina Anandabhairavi Misra Chapu
Neranamminanura Hamsadhwani Aadi
Nivale Daivamu Yadukula Kambhoji Misra Chapu
Nivamti Dhaivamu Kapi Aadi
Nive Dinarakshakudu Devagandhari Aadi
Padasaroja Mukhari Aadi
Padasaroja Saveri Aadi
Padayugamunu Janaranjani Aadi
Paduvom Parandham Purnachandrika Aadi
Palaya Mam Begada Rupakam
Palayamam Ritigowla Aadi
Parakelanayya Mohana Tisra Laghu
Parthasarathe Surutti Rupakam
Parvathi Parameswaram Natai Aadi
Pavana Rama Atana Rupakam
Purnatrayesa Purnachandrika Aadi
Raghuvara Bilahari Aadi
Rama Raghava Thodi Rupakam
Rama Rama Nilambari Aadi
Ramam bhaja Arabhi Aadi
Sagara Sayana Vibho Bagesri Aadi
Saketanatham Bhaje Kamavardhani Khanda Chapu
Sami Ninne Kori (Varnam) Ranjani Aadi
Sankaram Sankarabharanam Rupakam
Sarasijamukha Yadukula Kambhoji Aadi
Sitamanohara Kanada Aadi
Sri Ramadutam Darbar Aadi
Sri Valmikapuravesa Sama Aadi
Sriguruvaram Hamsadhwani Rupakam
Srimohana Rama Mohana Rupakam
Stanumalayum Kambhoji Aadi
Sundaramurthini Natakurinji Rupakam
Thyagarajagurumasraye Kedaram Aadi
Tillana Bilahari Aadi
Tillana Kapi Triputa
Tillana Kadanakuthoohalam Aadi
Tillana Sindhu Bhairavi Aadi
Velavane Sahana Aadi
Venkatesa Girisa Madhyamavathi Aadi
Vighnaraja Sri Ranjani Aadi
Vinave Gowla Aadi


Source : www.swathitirunal.org
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nnramya
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#115

Post by nnramya » 10 Jul 2005, 16:45

Chitra and Meena :
Here is an article published sometime ago abt the MDR manuscripts. The songs are so beautiful......its a miracle that those books were recovered and we are very lucky that they were not lost.

http://carnatica.net/nvr/mdr-editorial.htm

Also, another list of his compositions :
http://www.carnatica.net/lyrics/mdr-kritis.htm

His mudra is "Varadadasa" referring to his guru, of course.....dasa of his guru "varada"!

Such a great man!! I too, can go on and on!!! :-)
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davalangi
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#116

Post by davalangi » 10 Jul 2005, 19:58

Here is the link to Tiger's Vachaspati varnam. SRJ is accompanied by Sri.Rajarao and Sri.S.Varadarajan. Vocal support is by Ashwin & Rohin Iyer.

http://rapidshare.de/files/2945635/vach ... m.mp3.html
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divakar
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#117

Post by divakar » 10 Jul 2005, 21:57

davalangi: Thanks a lot for TIGER's vAcaspati varNam.

Ashwin: can you provide the text of the varNam ? thanks.
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chithra
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#118

Post by chithra » 10 Jul 2005, 22:51

Thanks, Ramya, for the wealth of info on MDR. Yes, I recognise the ones you have listed in the first post. I tend to concentrate so much on the music, I often lose sight of the lyrics; even if the lyrics are in the language I understand I tend not to pay attention because of the music (I do not blame the music, only myself - am like instrumentalists in this regard). So, I never noticed his mudra of Varada dasa in those comps. of MDR.

Divakar:

here are the lyrics for Vachaspathy - I have written down what I have in my music notation (did not get the lyrics separately). I most probably have murdered it, but someone else will fix it, I am sure:

Pallavi: Vandanamu O Narinchiti (or onarinchiti) vela kola;
Sashtaangam Bhooma Bharatha Lakshmi Vani nin

Anupallavi:
Mandhara dara poora arivirim chathulu thoshitha charithe
Mara Vasantha modhini Sri Rukminiki chirayu nosagumo

Charanam:
Anthamuna Kalkshethra AdhyakshiNi SuposhiNi

Chithra
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divakar
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#119

Post by divakar » 10 Jul 2005, 23:45

chithra: thanks for the text.

ok. this is how it has to be (in transliteration scheme)

P: vaNdanamonariNciti vElakoladi
sAshTANgammu mA bharata lakshmi vANi kin

A: maNdAra dhara pUra arivirim catulu tOshita caritE
mAra vasaNta mOdini SrI rukmiNiki cirAyu nosagumu

C: aNtamuna kalAkshEtra adhyakshiNi supOshiNi

vaNdanamonariNciti = vaNdanamu + onariNciti (is a single word)
vElakoladi = thousands of
( veyyi, vEla = thousand; kola = measure )

last word in pallavi is 'kin' which is formation of 'ki' meaning 'to'
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#120

Post by meena » 11 Jul 2005, 00:27

ramya

The following kritis have been rendered by sree mdr in concerts.

Gajavadana Maam Paahi - Hamsadhwani
Vighnaraja - Sriranjani
Gajaanana - Todi
Mangalacharane - Hindolam
Subrahmanyam Bhajare - Hindolam
Thyaagaraaja Gurum - Kedaaram
Saagarashayana - Baageshri
Innamum Ee Chalama - Begada
Janani Natajanapaalini - Shankarabharanam
Paraakela - Mohanam
Naamkeerthaname - Bilahari
Sree Chaamundeshwari - Bilahari
Maathanga Tanaye - Punnagavaraali
Paadayugamu - Janaranjani
Neevanti Daivamu - Kaapi
Manasa Sree Rama - Bhowli
Ennakutram - Huseni
Neevale Daivamu - Yadukula Kaambhoji
Hariyum Haranum Onre Endru - Ataana
Velavane Unakku - Sahaana
Maayamma - Ranjani
Raama Raama â?? Neelaambari
Maname â?? Sindhubhairavi
Nandagopa â?? Kaapi
Saraswati - Khamaas
Va Va Muruga - Kaapi
Gurucharanam - Kannada
Tillaana - Kaapi
Tillaana - Kaanada
Tillaana - Ranjani
Tillaana - Kadanakutuhalam
Tillaana - Hindolam
Tillaana - Behag
Tillaana â?? Sindhubhairavi

Thanku for the articles. I have am aware of them all :)


here's another composition of Tigers:

karuNai kaDalE (varNa). rAgA: kalyANi. Adi tALA.

P: karuNai kaDalE kalyANi kAttaruL iduvE samayam
A: taruvaDar kadamba vana murai tiruvoTriyUrt-tyAgEshan manOhari
C: sundari sutantari nIyE sUkkumargaL pOTriDum
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#121

Post by nnramya » 11 Jul 2005, 00:42

Thanks Meena! I wasn't aware that he had rendered that many of his songs, in his concerts. I should lookout for them!

Do you have a recording of any of those songs, other than the often heard ones (eg. other than Gajavadana, Saagara shayana, Harium haranum, Thyagaraja, Mayamma and the Kapi thillana) that you can upload for us? Does anyone?

Thanks!
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#122

Post by meena » 11 Jul 2005, 01:11

sorry ramya

we have to abide by the new changes. Any u/l has to be directly related to a topic under discussion.

maybe when we get to discuss composers/artists kulkarniji may consider.
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#123

Post by nnramya » 11 Jul 2005, 23:39

Absolutely Meena! Completely slipped my mind - the changes!

We'll wait! :-)
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#124

Post by coolkarni » 12 Jul 2005, 06:47

maybe when we get to discuss composers/artists kulkarniji may consider.
the post on mdrs compositions has made me have a relook at his renderings in his concerts and AIR broadcasts.
just listened to mangalacharane -incidentally this is not listed above, but has the varada dasar mudra-and i thought it is worth picking up as many renderings as possible..
i have opened a folder on x drive called mdrs compositions and will be starting a thread.if mangalacharane was any benchmark, it is going to be a wonderful experience.
(somebody alert divakar, just in case he misses out) :lol:
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divakar
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#125

Post by divakar » 12 Jul 2005, 06:58

kulkarniji,
i'm aware of that kriti of mdr's. its good to have a seperate folder on mdr-comp. i listed all his comp that he sang in the concerts with lyrics in addition to those provided by lakshmanji and meenaji. ofcourse, these are from the collection that i have (courtesy: rajuji, varadarajan, bala, taramanujam, lakshmanji, and rasikapriya) of mdr's concerts. many thanks to all of them.
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