Popular ragas/kritis you don't care much for...

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 23 Feb 2009, 02:36

Yes VK
giving all that credit to Patanam who is a sishya of KVI for those wonderful varnams is unjust!
Thanks to ragam-talam as well as vidya's illuminating reference!

vainika · Post by **vainika** » 23 Feb 2009, 02:37

ragam-talam wrote:
keerthi wrote:b) re the detective story with rAga characters, you may want to read Vidya's short story? with the older ragas sitting around and reflecting on their past glories, while younger rAgas preen themselves in the background.
Wow, is there a link to this story somewhere?

There are two in this genre

http://themememe.blogspot.com/2008/11/raga-parody.html
http://themememe.blogspot.com/2008/12/rival-ragas.html

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 23 Feb 2009, 02:43

Thanks vainika for those insightful educational blogs!

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 23 Feb 2009, 08:35

Naan oru vilayattu bommia, bommia, bommia. Let me narrate a story. In villages, , SA,RI,GA,MA pattu (that's how the villagers refer to carnatic musc )used to be arranged in the small temples during festivals .Once a poor Bhagavathar grabbed the chance. The crowd consisted of sleepy villagers , cows ,cockroaches ETC .Bhagavathar started singing 'nanoru vilayattu bommia,repeating bommia, bommia, bommia to impress the villagers . Suddenly one drowsy villager got up sayig SAAMI KOOPTEENGALA(SAAMI, DID YOU CALL ME) . His name happened to be BOMMIAH.!!!! GOBILALITHA. i HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED IT IS A STORY!!!!

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 23 Feb 2009, 15:04

What with keerthi's Ayush-homam for Gowla and Sri,
and Vidya's hilarious "And then they heard a loud GGRS and in walked Darbar hobbling on his crutch"...
it's getting funnier and funnier in the world of CM!

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 23 Feb 2009, 15:13

cmlover wrote:As a shrink I know inside everyone of us there is a sadist and a masochist waiting to get out!

Perhaps the sadist can torture the masochist and end up with a win-win situation.
This way neither of them has to come out and hassle us!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 23 Feb 2009, 17:02

Within and without

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 25 Feb 2009, 18:24

Hmm, looks like this thread has finally run out of steam...

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Feb 2009, 18:30

I am sure everybody will now love:
'pavamaana suthuDu...'

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 27 Feb 2009, 06:22

arunk wrote:1. kuRai onRum illai - most popular, and one I most dont care about.

I changed my mind - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxufQjyYaY

Arun

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 10 May 2009, 09:21

keerthi wrote:ksrimech,
How can you say this about koniyAdina..!
only a couple of centuries ago, I would have challenged you to a duel for this affront. it is actually an unquestionable masterpiece. It has the best SAhityam - Baludau markandeyu.. and kratubhujulu... etc. An excellent chitteswaram to go with that. unless you have heard a glut of mediocre renditions like the Srirangam Gopalaratnam one {ordinary AlApana, bad krthi rendition,horrible neraval and atrocious swarakalpana; it is so un-aesthetic, it makes you wish you were on an-aesthetic}; how can koniyAdina figure on a don't like list???

...

I will go to Hanuman temple and get Ayush-homam done for Gaula, Sree and KoniyAdina..

Ayush-homam alert for Koniyadina successful in micro-corner of universe. As soon as I found the Ramnad version, I have got to work. It is a long haul, but well worth it, because the journey is great. And in my case without even knowing the significance of the sahityam. Would welcome a brief (or long) commentary on Baludau markandeya or kratubhujulu or anything else, for info. But the flow of the song is tremendous. Will vote for it as a masterpiece. Ramnad's beginning of the anupallavi is masterly understatement, never to be repeated.

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 10 May 2009, 14:35

Got late to this thread but found it very interesting. The only raga that I knowingly dislike is Kalyani. I immediately skip it if it finds its way into my ipod and before a concert, I pray that the main is not Kalyani. If the main is a Kalyani, I won't be fully satisfied. The reason is, I cannot associate any emotion with the raga and also probably because, as a kid, I remember someone referring to Kalyani as Kazhudhai (Donkey) kalyani meaning that even a donkey's braying will sound like Kalyani. Incidentally, I was singing Kamboji the other day and someone asked me if I was singing Kalyani.

. I'm not a big fan of Harikamboji either though I like Pamalai, Entara ni, (Dinamani on rare occasions)

Koniyadina - I can totally understand why someone would not like this if they have not heard the 'right' renditions. Sanjay's rendition in MA blew me away and that was the first time I came to know about this krithi. I immediately heard as many renditions as possible and was very disappointed. MSS, Gopalratnam, etc haven't done justice to the krithi. The only renditions I approve of are those of Sanjay and MDR with all the sangathis. A truly magnificient krithi! Same with Mari mari ninne. If it's not sung with all the sangathis, it can sound a bit drab.

Sri - Apart from having vested interests

, I've totally fallen in love with this krithi after listening to MDR's Vanajasana, SSI's Vande vasudevam. The chittaswarams in Vanajasana are a treat to the ears.

I typically avoid thukkadas and prefer weighty ragas. The song must last at least 5 minutes, otherwise I usually don't add it to my playlist. The longer the better. Apart from that, on a given day, my mood swings take me to different ragas.

Meenakshi memudam - I heard TMK deliver a very moving rendition at MFAC 5 years back. I wish this song was sung a tad slower than usual to bring out the emotion in the krithi.

Oho kalame - I find this krithi very refreshing every time I listen to it. I absolutely love the lyrics.

Krithis I tend to avoid

* Kanta joodumi - I don't know why I avoid this but I cannot get myself to listen to it. The word joodumi screws up my brain. I haven't been able to explain it.

Uday - there's a RTP Hindolam by MDR that could probably change your mind. Let me know if you are interested.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 10 May 2009, 16:54

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 10 May 2009, 21:43

Oh, shripathi!
You are my sole enemy =)! I am a lover of Kalyani. She is my most favouritest favouritest favouritest favourite[see how I go haywire?

]

hating kanta jUdumi!! What a punishable act?

"jUdumi" screws your mind. It brews rAga sudhA in my mind!!

Just joking!! Don't take it seriously!

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 10 May 2009, 21:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aF0eSl67jI - after listening to this you still dislike, let me know.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 10 May 2009, 21:50

I have to be away from kalyani to enjoy the raga. Extensive raga alapana is trickier further. I have to be in the right mood for that. Having said all that, Ananthalakshmi Sadagopan's nidhi chAla sukhamA works for me most of the time and so is MSS's Thalli Ninnu. ( given enough gap between listens )

>I cannot associate any emotion with the raga and also probably because, as a kid, I remember someone referring to Kalyani as Kazhudhai (Donkey) kalyani meaning that
>even a donkey's braying will sound like Kalyani.

It is totally uncalled for on the part of whoever made that up. Shripathi, you have to take yourself through some decontamination chamber to get rid of that and then figure it out for yourself

There is probably a lot of such 'stuff' we all carry, mainly by people who grew up among highly opinionated CM rasikas. They feed us their strongly held opinions and we carry that with us and let it affect our own enjoyment. We need to be de-programmed to find our own true nature.

>I was singing Kamboji the other day and someone asked me if I was singing Kalyani.

You deserve that!!

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 11 May 2009, 00:09

Dear narayan,
You are currently persona most grata in my book for loving KoniYAdina.. And yes, R.Krishnan version is really good..
I am more than happy to give an ordinary translation.. There are better telugu-knowing, translation-talented members who may do justice to Kuppayar's lovely ode..

P: koniyADina nApai nI kOpamu sEyamEra

A: ninnu mincina daivamu lEdani nirantaramu nI kIrtinentO

C: bAluDau mArkaNDEyuni bhakti santasilli vE vEgamE
kAluninoka pAdamuna dunimi karuNinciti vadigAka
kAlakUTa bAdha sairimpaka kratu-bhujulella kUDi
cAla nItO moraliDi vEDu konaga lIlAgAnu garaLamunu mringina
nIlakaNTha shrI kALahastIsha nikhilalOka budhajana pAlana
gOpAladAsa duritavana kuTAra parAtparA dayAkarAyani ninu

P: koniyADina nApai nI kOpamu sEyamEra
Towards me, who praises you,Is it right for you to be angry..?

A: ninnu mincina daivamu lEdani nirantaramu nI kIrtinentO
That 'there is no deity greater than you' enru who praises you.. pallavi line

C: bAluDau mArkaNDEyuni bhakti santasilli vE vEgamE
pleased with the devotion of the Child markandEya, you hastened

kAluninoka pAdamuna dunimi karuNinciti vadigAka

and crushed Death with one foot..

kAlakUTa bAdha sairimpaka kratu-bhujulella kUDi

Unable to suffer the kalakUta/hAlAhala poison, when the devas aggregated,

[kratubhuja is a rare word for dEva meaning recipient of sacrifices, it is only seen used in Classical sanskrit v,and speaks for the erudition of Kuppayar]

cAla nItO moraliDi vEDu konaga lIlAgAnu garaLamunu mringina
and beseeched you; playfully, you drank the venom..

nIlakaNTha shrI kALahastIsha nikhilalOka budhajana pAlana

O blue-throated lord of kalahasti! saviour of the wise in all the worlds!
gOpAladAsa duritavana kuTAra parAtparA dayAkarAyani ninu

You are an axe to the forest of my(gopAladAsa's i e kupayyar's) sins! O transcendent, merciful one!

THe anupallavi and charana dovetail into the pallavi to mean, when I praise you thus,(referring to so and so exploits, is it right to be wroth at me)

Vinay · Post by **Vinay** » 11 May 2009, 05:35

Almost all kalyani!
Unless it's Balamurali singing it, but even then, it's not as good sometimes unless it's Ninnuvina or Gathi Neeve or Sangeethame or ahhhhhh Sogasu Nee Sommu (I don't think I can ever have enough of that one). And of course there's also the ashtapadi Sakhi He, tuned in Kalyani by Balamurali - that was the first time I heard how exceptionally good Kalyani could be. Ninnuvina is also excellent Kalyani, and in a different mood (more fast paced and energetic than lingering and romantic). Thyagaraja's Sundari Nee is somewhat similar to this, I think.

Oh and kambhoji. I disliked it the first time I heard it (Sri Raghuvara, Thyagaraja), and grew to like it a little after much repeated listening. But Evarimata (Thyagaraja) and Simharoopa (Purandaradasa, if I remember right) are a bit better. Still, somewhat boring. However, I have heard good movie songs in kambhoji - Premodaaranaay (Movie - Kamaladalam, singer - Yesudas, music director - Ravindran), and Samaja Sancharini (Movie - Parinayam, singer - Yesudas, music director - Ravi).

I'm not as sure but I think this goes for begada too. There's this movie song that I love, Innale Neeyoru (Movie - Sthree, singer - Yesudas, music director - Dakshinamoorthy). But I haven't liked any of the carnatic pieces I've heard in begada - not yet at least - but then I haven't listened to a lot.

Mohanam - Another overrated raga! I'm sick of hearing it everywhere. There are few really really good pieces in this raga, the rest are all the same old boring, sickeningly sweet drawl. It's hard to render this raga without making it boring. Less use of the panchama makes it a bit more attractive - this works in kalyani too, incidentally.

Hamsadhwani, sometimes. Although as in the case of mohanam, this is also the fault of those who use it uninnovatively. Sadashiva Brahmendra's Gayathi Vanamali is a notable exception (partly because of the madhyama shruti too - though it would be almost as good without it as well). All his compositions do present a different usage of ragas from their usual.

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 11 May 2009, 09:20

srinivasrgvn wrote:Oh, shripathi!
You are my sole enemy =)! I am a lover of Kalyani. She is my most favouritest favouritest favouritest favourite[see how I go haywire? ]

hating kanta jUdumi!! What a punishable act? "jUdumi" screws your mind. It brews rAga sudhA in my mind!!

Just joking!! Don't take it seriously!

I'm not sure if I'm your sole enemy. I can introduce some of my friends to you so that you can have more enemies.

. Yes, they are all Kalyani haters. Actually, I do listen to MMI's Kalyanis (his endless swaraprastharas are the only thing that can keep me interested in that raga), MDR's Kamalambhajare ( the krithi is really beautiful) and Himadrisute ( I started liking this after watching Hamsageethe which is my most favorite film ever). Talking about Kalyani, here's something funny. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzxVaAj7Y_Y )

To my brain, jUdumi seems a combination of 'choodu' in Telugu and kudumi, so it goes crazy.

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 11 May 2009, 09:20

Keerthi, is it possible to get a recording of Ramnad's Koniyadina?

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 11 May 2009, 09:57

also probably because, as a kid, I remember someone referring to Kalyani as Kazhudhai (Donkey) kalyani meaning that even a donkey's braying will sound like Kalyani.

You got the interpretation wrong. The raga by itself is so sweet, even a donkey (or any one with a bad voice) can sing it.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 11 May 2009, 10:10

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 11 May 2009, 10:18

>for begada too. There's this movie song that I love, Innale Neeyoru

Thanks for the reference to those movie songs. All are nice songs. The kambhoji ones are OK but raga content wise does not compare to any CM heavy weights. Also, may be the specific shaking of M, both songs started off sounding like kamAs before finding its way to kambhoji, but very listenable songs.

The Begada one is better mainly because I would least expect Begada in a film song. It has the usual filmy neither-here-nor-there type of generecity alright but then a flash of begada appears when you least expect it. And the beginning 'Inn' itself is so Begada done very well by Yesudas.

The two songs that are sort of in a similar aesthetic neighborhood ( it is a big stretch to even say that ) are 'Sankari Neve' and 'kaDaikkaN vaithennai'. I am sure you have listened to them. I have been looking for a rendition of sankari Neve by your hero BMK but have not found one yet. I am curious how a gamaka minimalist like BMK treats that song which thrives on gamakam.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 11 May 2009, 11:36

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 11 May 2009, 11:44

All this defense for Kalyani has done something to me I suppose. I was listening to Madurai GS Mani's lec-dem on Carnatic music in film songs and he spoke at length about Kalyani. I didn't find it unpleasant in the least bit and I thoroughly enjoyed the part where he demonstrated how GNB would sing nadaswaram passages. I'm beginning to think that there might actually be something in the raga. Need to listen to it more.

Coolji,

Thanks for the Koniyadina which was very good ( wonder if he sang swaras for it ) and the Vachaspathi (listening to it now). I've never heard Kanta joodumi actually. Will let you know how it goes.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 11 May 2009, 11:53

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 11 May 2009, 12:13

Fantastic Vachaspathi! Torrent of swaras from the doyen! Thanks a lot.

. I still couldn't digest the pallavi but I'm glad that I patiently got through to the swara kalpana part. Topping it off with MDR's Pakkalanilabadi.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 11 May 2009, 12:17

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 11 May 2009, 13:19

The Emani clip brought back memories of marathon-Emani sessions a few years back. Listening to an RTP in K'priya followed by .................................. an RTP in Kalyani.

Vinay · Post by **Vinay** » 11 May 2009, 17:11

vasanthakokilam wrote: The two songs that are sort of in a similar aesthetic neighborhood ( it is a big stretch to even say that ) are 'Sankari Neve' and 'kaDaikkaN vaithennai'. I am sure you have listened to them. I have been looking for a rendition of sankari Neve by your hero BMK but have not found one yet. I am curious how a gamaka minimalist like BMK treats that song which thrives on gamakam.

I hadn't. But I found and listened to Sankari Neeve by Sudha Raghunathan (There's a downloadable version in Cool Toad, and the very same one in readily listenable form in eSnips).
I can see that the "Sankari" corresponds exactly to the "Innale"!

Still looking for Kadaikkan Vaithennai. Oh and it would be great if you found renditions by "my hero" (lol)!

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 13 May 2009, 13:20

keerthi wrote:Dear narayan,
You are currently persona most grata in my book for loving KoniYAdina.. And yes, R.Krishnan version is really good..
I am more than happy to give an ordinary translation.. There are better telugu-knowing, translation-talented members who may do justice to Kuppayar's lovely ode..

Thanks much for this free flowing translation. I think I would enjoy the song even with more mundane lyrics than these! I found "axe for the forest of sins" a picturesque usage. After some thought, I remembered where else it is there - in Tyagaraja's Amba ninnu in Arabhi. So it seems to be a standard image, but still nice!
Further Koniyadina discussions, if any, I suppose should move to a separate thread, now having established its small but vocal support base.

Rasika911 · Post by **Rasika911** » 13 May 2009, 18:30

I cant stand it when a kid is singing alone and they do the adi veechu adi veechu thing....i just cant!!!! Especially when the krithi to follow is something like marukelara

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 13 May 2009, 20:56

Agree that Koniyadina deserves a separate thread..
couldn't resist this quip..
the axe to forest is used rather frequently - see lobha-latA-lavitri in janani ninuvina, trhe rItigaula song..

If people are interested, we could start a thread about popular metaphors/ similes used in carnatic compositions..

smvj · Post by **smvj** » 13 May 2009, 21:02

Hi, Does anyone know the meaning of song, Gam Ganapathe' namo namo Shankari Thanaya, it's set to Roopaka Thalam and Hamsadvani ragam. Thanks - Sangeetha

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 14 May 2009, 01:00

smvj,
It is a good idea to post your request in the Sahitya Section.

mazhai · Post by **mazhai** » 19 May 2009, 19:21

Kurai ondrum illai - ida padalainu yaarukku kurai???? the old mamis seem to love this song more than their lives!! arrggh! especially cant stand it in a kutthu paatu fashion! I have sworn to myself that I will never EVER sing this song when i perform!!!

Alaipaayuthe- tsunami ye vandudum if i hear that song once more...!
om namo narayana- another so very common one!
nidhi chala sukhama- can we have something new in Kalyani pls??
RTP in Suddha Bangla- u wont believe this, but an artist ACTUALLY tried this out at Pune Sangeetha Sabha...excrutiatingly unpleasant!!
chinnanjiru kiliye- yawn!!!
Taaye yashoda- zzzzzz!!!!!!!!!
mangalam- only when people sing ALL the stanzas....its monotonous, boring and neverending!!!
Malayamarutham- JEEEEEZZZ!!!!!
Vachaspati- YYIIIKKKESSSS!!!!
Samajavaragamana- OMGSM!!!!! (Oh my god spare me!!!)
brochevarevarura- ZILCH!!!
actually the list is pretty long!

mazhai · Post by **mazhai** » 19 May 2009, 19:36

narayan wrote:
keerthi wrote:Dear narayan,
You are currently persona most grata in my book for loving KoniYAdina.. And yes, R.Krishnan version is really good..
I am more than happy to give an ordinary translation.. There are better telugu-knowing, translation-talented members who may do justice to Kuppayar's lovely ode..
Thanks much for this free flowing translation. I think I would enjoy the song even with more mundane lyrics than these! I found "axe for the forest of sins" a picturesque usage. After some thought, I remembered where else it is there - in Tyagaraja's Amba ninnu in Arabhi. So it seems to be a standard image, but still nice!
Further Koniyadina discussions, if any, I suppose should move to a separate thread, now having established its small but vocal support base.

happy to jopin u friends....love koniyaadina too!

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 22 May 2009, 10:16

mazhai wrote: nidhi chala sukhama- can we have something new in Kalyani pls??

Nowadays, the most frequent seems to be "Sandehamu" without any Sandehamu!

RTP in Suddha Bangla- u wont believe this, but an artist ACTUALLY tried this out at Pune Sangeetha Sabha...excrutiatingly unpleasant!!

Whoever it is, they must be very brave. Don't you think? =)

mangalam- only when people sing ALL the stanzas....its monotonous, boring and neverending!!!

That's why people dash out of the hall the moment they hear the word "Mangalam"

brochevarevarura- ZILCH!!!

Never!! One of the classics of CM! I can hear it 10000 times without 'salappu'[boredom]!!

vinsim · Post by **vinsim** » 28 May 2009, 04:54

I have heard people raving on and on about kambodhi, but I just don't get this raaga (limitation may be on my part:)). Barring some brief versions of Shri subramanya namaste by ARI/CVB (< 20 mins), I don't find any krithi in this raga appealing at all, let alone a RTP.

Interestingly, I see many Kalyani haters here and I absolutely LOVE kalyani. Listening to the kalyani swaras (MLV, TVS) is the best pick-me-up on a dull day. Check out MDR in this short video -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKCm8wBzTQg, where he sings a short yet magical "birana brova ide".

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 28 May 2009, 07:10

vinsim wrote:I have heard people raving on and on about kambodhi, but I just don't get this raaga (limitation may be on my part:)). Barring some brief versions of Shri subramanya namaste by ARI/CVB (< 20 mins), I don't find any krithi in this raga appealing at all, let alone a RTP.

Absolutely!
Kambhoji fails to fascinate me! The funniest thing is that I like Harikambhoji so much!

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 28 May 2009, 07:13

Ban the kAmbOji haters!

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 28 May 2009, 07:17

I second bilahari!

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 28 May 2009, 07:22

Well bilahari, I never knew that you were a kAmbhOji lover too!! =)

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 28 May 2009, 07:35

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 28 May 2009, 07:58

A profound philosophical statement, Cool!

bilahari loves bilahari
and kAmbhOji too
that doesen't rule out
harikAmbhOji,
But harimauji?

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 28 May 2009, 08:02

arasi,

vallaki · Post by **vallaki** » 03 Jul 2009, 01:35

srinivasrgvn wrote:This is going to be very funny but:
Almost all of the above mentioned ragas(not all the songs but the ragas from page 1) are my favorites(except Simhendramadhyamam).
Simhendramadyamam seems to be such a bore!!
I hate it because it is such a Shanmukhapriya impersonator!! And Shanmukhapriya is so SUPERB!!!
See how a Nishadam makes such a difference(to me)! Many of us dont like Simhendramadhyamam I think!
And another thing I don't like is singing Neraval in telugu kritis!! I mean a neraval line should be very special i.e. the line should convey very good meaning or the line must be somewhat special! But certain telugu lines are so non-understandable(is my grammar right?)!! Once I went to a BJ concert and she sang neraval in a sunadhavinodhini kriti of tyagaraja(I think). In the charanam, some line that began with "Paluku Paluku" or something like that was elaborated! Oh my god, it was so boring!!!
Are there any other telugu-neraval haters??
Oh yes! Bhairavi is in my hit-list along with Kamavardhini(how boring!) and Krishna Nee Begane seems to be such a bad Yamuna Kalyani!!

I beg to differ..Even with my limited exposure, I would like to quote that , depending on the artist, simhendramadhyamam could sound really superb. I remember E.Gayathri's rendition in the 'Kutcheri ' Series , in the RTP, Also, there is a superb thanam piece on youtube by Jayashri-Jayaraj, And also the brilliant ninne nammithi -in the 'DOUBLE TAKE' Album by Dr.Bhavani Prakash Rao , in which she does a grahabedam . Surely, it sounds distinctly different from Shanmukhapriya, which is also one of my very favorite ragas.

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 03 Jul 2009, 06:48

Thanks vallaki. I will hear all the pieces you mentioned above. Thank you for your interest. =)

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Jul 2009, 07:13

All this brings to mind two (different ) things.
1: In a P.G. Woodhouse story, I think it is Bingo Little pushing the pram of his newborn when he encounters a friend perambulating his offspring. The scene ends in each one betting that his own child is uglier than the other! Hope I got the story right. Anyway, those who do not like certain songs want to make sure that they say it emphatically enough to prove the point that they do not like it at all!

2: Now, a competition scene where every parent thinks his child is the best--it is the same when it comes to asserting 'my favorite is the best ragam or kruti'.
The fun starts when you have to narrow down your favorite to one. You will see this happening in the other thread where rAgams starting with the letter a, A, ai (arun

) and B are discussed. I want to wait until they get to Z (Z?) and then make my pick out of those, and who knows, I may also find one which they have overlooked!

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 03 Jul 2009, 07:16