Basava Vachana

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vgovindan
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#1 Basava Vachana

Post by vgovindan » 10 Jul 2018, 08:37

I came across the following beautiful poem. Though I do not know Kannada, I was overwhelmed by the depth of the vachana -

Kannada Script
ಎನ್ನ ಕಾಯವ ದಂಡಿಗೆಯ ಮಾಡಯ್ಯ
ಎನ್ನ ಶಿರವ ಸೋರೆಯ ಮಾಡಯ್ಯ
ಎನ್ನ ನರಗಳ ತಂತಿಯ ಮಾಡಯ್ಯ
ಬತ್ತೀಸ ರಾಗವ ಹಾಡಯ್ಯ
ಉರದಲೊತ್ತಿ ಬಾರಿಸು ಕೂಡಲಸಂಗಮದೇವ!

English Transliteration
enna kAyava daMDigeya mADayya
enna shirava sOreya mADayya
enna naragaLa tantiya mADayya
battIsa rAgava hADayya
uradalotti bArisu kUDalasangama dEva 

English Translation 
Make my body the fretboard,
Make my head resonator
Make my nerves into the strings
Sing thirtytwo rAgas
Play intensely, Oh koodalasangama dEva*! 

http://www.learnkannada.in/2016/05/basa ... g.html?m=1
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#2 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by Sachi_R » 10 Jul 2018, 09:22

Yes, Govindan sir,
An immeasurable treasure and heritage for Kannada lies in Vachanas and Dasara Padas.

These poets were first and foremost mystics and men of realisation. They sang in a simple language to share with everyone the joy of their realization.

Kudalasangama is a holy place where so. many Shiva Sharanas came together!
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#3 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by ajaysimha » 26 Dec 2018, 17:52

hi rasikas,

adding some more info to previous posts

even the haridasas followed the convention of the 32 ragas
ಬತ್ತೀಸ ರಾಗ ==> battIsa rAga ==> thirtytwo rAgas

purandaradasaru in his composition (tutturu tUrendu battIsa) lists the 32 ragas as played by lord krishna on his flute.

the explanation of legendary 32 ragas are given here
links:
https://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2007/1 ... %E0%B2%B0/

https://medium.com/@hamsanandi/battees- ... 5b7e848ded
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#4 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by rshankar » 27 Dec 2018, 03:21

Very interesting that battisa in kannaDa is the same as बत्तीस (battIs) in Hindi...
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#5 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by Sachi_R » 27 Dec 2018, 08:13

Ravi,
Kannada has (since 12th century CE) absorbed many Urdu/Hindi words.

Common ones: meju =table. kurchi=chair. kharchu= expense,
chappali=slippers.....


Ajay-sir, thank you for the link to 32 ragas!
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#6 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by ajaysimha » 28 Dec 2018, 23:08

Wellcome Sachi ji.

Kannada has adapted many such Hindi /Urdu words during vijayanagara-bahamani rule period.
Also a part of Karnataka is called mumbai-karnataka as the speak Kannada mixed Hindi slang.

Some different thought about battisa (32) Ragas that I have heard
>It's half the number of the 72 Melas of Carnatic music
>major Ragas or thaats of Hindustani music
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#7 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by rshankar » 29 Dec 2018, 02:15

Half of 72 is 36, right. छत्तीस
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#8 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by ajaysimha » 29 Dec 2018, 10:05

:D might be approx
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#9 Re: Basava Vachana

Post by ajaysimha » 21 Jan 2019, 14:51

also what i heard on the same note is:
people of those times used to use ragas with shuddha madhyama(M1), and avoided too many variations with prathi madhyama usage(M2)
so they had a smaller set of 32 ragas
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