Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

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tanyaroy
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#176 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by tanyaroy » 03 Sep 2013, 16:42

Is learning the Karnataka violin more difficult than the normal one?
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#177 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 04 Sep 2013, 03:28

Musical instruments with frets are easier to learn in the beginning as the learner can conveniently rely upon these frets while keeping his/her finger at the places of the respective notes upon the string. But, in respect of the instruments without these frets, the aspirant cannot keep his /her finger in the proper places of the respective notes unless he acquires the respective knowledge of the note prior to his/her learning the instrument. Thus, this fret-less instrument, Violin is more difficult to deal with.

More over, all the music-teachers, without thinking themselves that a machine like the Casio is always more perfect than them in respect of both the rhythm and the pure note, are used to teach their notes with all the oscillations to their aspirants right from the beginning by which it takes lot of time to get the knowledge of a pure note.

In almost all our Karnataka or South Indian music-concerts, as the Violin has become an indispensable accompaniment, many are preferring to take up this instrument for their livelihood. Thus, the number of Violinists is increasing gradually and, irrespective of their standards, each and every Violinst has been able to get on with hes/her concerts.

More over, to tell the fact, even though we already have legendary Violinists in our South Indian music, their intricate finger-techniques have not been spread to many aspirants, as they all are professional performers always striving hard only for their self aggrandizement but not to teach them. At the same time neither the music-lovers nor the organizations have ever cared to preserve their rare finger techniques making videos for educational purpose.

Like all the above there are many points to be discussed at length by the interested people like you. But, as many people are interested only in gathering the respective information but not in sincerely doing the needful in such matters, many of our aspirants are not able to come up as successful Violinists.

However, if the Violin-teachers sincerely follow a logical approach in teaching the different finger techniques of this instrument, though not the music, we can certainly produce talented Violinists. Only to prove this I, being the follower of Late M.S.Gopalakrishnan, the ever Great Violinist of this century, have trained my disciple, Chi. O.Rajashekhar, in playing the Kalyani-Ata-Varna @ 120 speed bpm on a single string which is available from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yVxzlnse0 & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QyJ2EKlctA. amsharma
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#178 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 19 Nov 2013, 08:26

Today I have uploaded two Varnas in Adi-tala and in Kambhoji and Natakuranji ragas played on Violin by 9 yrs. old Chi. Rishabh Ranganathan (alias Nandikeshwaran of US) @ 4-6-8 units to Youtube and the respective URLs are also furnished hereunder for the benefit of the aspirants. amsharma

Khambhoji Varnam Purvanga (90 speed, 4-6-8)
http://youtu.be/iaP4jrdO4Lc

Khambhoji Varnam Uttaranga (90 speed, 4-6-8)
http://youtu.be/1fee_PKhfuE

Natakuranji-Purvangam-

http://youtu.be/bVHsLfbId1g

Natajkuranji-Uttarangam -

http://youtu.be/jAvqVzxjISM
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#179 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by vasanthakokilam » 20 Nov 2013, 04:44

Excellent.

I can hear the lineage in a few places: MSG->Akellaji->Rishab
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#180 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 20 Nov 2013, 06:41

Dear brother-member, vasanthakokilam, Thank you for your kind and sincere appreciation.

I teach every one of my disciples in the same manner. But, if one of them could do well that is his/her ability only. In this manner Chi. Rishabh could do well far more than of his tender age with the incessant vigil of his father, Chi.Ranganathan and I must congratulate both of them.

In fact, all our musicians are much bothered about their self-aggrandisement only either in the manner as performer or composer or trend-setter etc.,etc. But, when it comes to passing on the actual legacy through our disciples, I found that nobody, instrumentalists in particular, is justifying it except in case of their own kith and kin. That is why, from the beginning, I did not teach any of my three sons but my outside disciples only. Thus, I could make my disciples, Chi. O.Rajashekhar, Chi. Vinay Rahul, Chi. Rishabh etc., follow this legacy by playing even the Varnas on a single string, at the least, in this technique. amsharma
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#181 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 29 May 2014, 17:29

Today a video in which my disciple, 9 year old Chi. Rishabh Ranganathan (USA) had played a composition on Violin at Shri Parthasarathy Swamy Sabha, Chennai on 27-12-2013 (http://youtu.be/HW1km-mHYjM) is uploaded for the benefit of the aspirants.

Anybody who learns music aspires to become a famous singer or player and by that to earn every thing of his life. But, due to so many reasons many of them are compelled to settle as music-teachers only though they themselves are not aware that they are not at all fit even to teach. In music, in the absence of any yardstick, it is very difficult to asses the level of knowledge of any person to select him/her as the teacher or level of the lesson taught to the aspirant or level of the lesson learnt by the aspirant. Unfortunately, while this kind of very defective system has been evolved by our ancestors for the benefit of our kids and their parents none of the musicians are aware of the harm it did till now to our country or culture. For me, even at this old age of 75 years, as a sincere teacher, this remains as a heartrending issue.

While even most of the professional performers are not fit to teach, each and every performer thinks himself/herself as the best teacher and resorts to teaching also. Not only a common man but even a performer is not aware of the difference between a performer and a teacher as, nowadays, all the teachers are only performers but not true teachers at all. Had any one of them been a true teacher he/ she would certainly have successfully trained his aspirant in all the needed technicalities of music within the duration of not more than 4 or 5 years and uploaded the respective video of his/her disciple to ‘Youtube’ long ago as per my long pending appeal. This itself obviously reveals that none of them is a true teacher. Any music teacher, posing as a great saviour of our music, very conveniently turns a deaf ear to my statements and very simply keeps quiet but could never become able to answer my logical questions.

In which way no stadardised methods in teaching/learning music have ever been established, in the same way, no methods even for the selection of a music-teacher also have ever been standardized. By all this, at last, even in the absence of a genuine music-teacher-training-institutute on the globe, only the performing abilities of the candidates are tested by these performing-judges and the successful performers only are always appointed as music-teachers ultimately leading to a chaotic condition to the poor aspirants in the educational institutions. Surprisingly, since many years, nobody is even aware of this plight of the poor aspirants in this respect. Thus, evey musician is more of performer’s perspective and far lesser of teacher’s perspective becoming more harmful than helpfull to the poor aspirants. Believe it or not, this I have realized only after 5 years after my retirement as music-teacher and Principal.

In the absence of the true knowledge to truthfully serve as a teacher, these performers are not at all aware that they are acting contrarily only to the interests of this poor aspirants. This is a very pitiable state of affairs wantonly driving the ignorant aspirants into heartrending suicidal effects.

For example if we take Chi. Rishabh’s case, I do not know on whose initiation his father Chi. Ranganathan approached me, but he abruptly made a phone call from USA and requested me to teach vocal to his son when he just completed 6 years of age. Thus, he started learning vocal attending two classes in a week on Skype starting from 01-06-2011. Later, after four months, his father again requested me to teach him violin also. In fact, though vocal can be taught by Skype upto some extent, it is not desirable to teach violin by skype as various finger-techniques are involved in violin-teaching. But, when his father told me that his son had already learnt western system of violin-play, I readily agreed to teach him taking advantage of the very highly disciplined western techniques of violin. Thus, he started learning violin from 14-10-2011 when he just entered into 7 years of age.

Only by the grace of the Almighty, having been in the process of evolution of the easy methods in teaching then I was making some experiments in teaching violin also. Thus, I have already made a blind violinist successfully and efficiently play all the 9 Varnas within a short duratioin of 6 months with all the required Gamakas on par with other non-blind violinists. On these same lines when I have trained Chi. Rishabh also he also proceded further very quickly and efficiently. More over, yearly once or twice, when he came to India either to Hyderbad or Chennai, I had also trained him in different finger-techniques for around a week each time face to face. Thus, by the grace of the Almighty, as he could learn very quickly and efficiently in this qualitative method he could play even a mini-concert of 45 mts., in Sri Parthasarathyswamy Sabha, Chennai on 27-12-2013 (the URL of which is furnished above) and even became the USA Carnatic Idol of his age-group. Hardwork of Chi. Rishabh, the affectionate encouragement of his parents and my vigilant supervision as a guide brought this success. Mainly this is the success of the system and the apirant only. Had he gone to any other teacher of quantitative method, he would have become able to play or sing the same only after 15 or 20 years at his age of around 21 years as per the traditional elongation of the process.

For example, in general, if we take the plight of our violin aspirants in respect of obtaining the respective knowledge of different finger-techniques, they are unable to find them as all our legends or maestros or experts of Violin always strived hard only for their self-aggrandisement but none of them ever tried to preserve their great finger-techniques by making relevant videos of them for educational purpose to the posterity. Even though our great legendary Violinists have become the beacon lights of Violin-world I feel very sad to tell that we have lost most of their invaluable finger-techniques due to their sheer negiligence towards our future aspirants. To tell the truth, in the absence of the teacher’s perspective, pitiably enough they could not pass on their great specialised-finger-tecniques even to their own kith and kin or their direct disciples. This has undoubtedly been proved by going through the hundreds of their audio-recordings. IS THIS NOT THE CRIMINAL LOSS OF OUR GREAT MUSICAL-WEALTH? More over, unlike in vocal where no finger-tecniques are involved at all, in respect of violin, as it has its own place in the concert arena or in respect of the involvement of various finger-techniques, videos made for the educational pupose highlighting the different finger-techniques play a very important role in building up a powerful generation of great violinists. Only to fulfill this void, I had to strive hard at my own level to bring out several videos of Varna-playing etc., and to upload them to ‘youtube.com/user/msakella’ for the benefit of our poor aspirants.

Even in our Chennai, the greatest centre of our Carnatic music, since many centuries everybody is more interested in listening to the best music and also in appreciating it. For this purpose only they all have strived hard in recording thousands of vocal-concerts but not even handful of recordings of instrumentalists for educatioinal purpose. In the same manner, hundreds of music-concerts only are being arranged in one way or the other like Radio or Telecasting or Webcasting, but not even one-fourth of them are utilized for educatioinal purpose for the benefit of our kids. In fact, in my serious observation, I have ultimately found that all the aspirants in Chennai are mostly benefited by regularly attending and listening to the numerous concerts only but not by the teachers’ efforts at all as they all are singers or players only but not true teachers.

In the same manner, while the compositioins written in detailed notation and supplied along with the pre-recorded CDs containing the same notations help all the music aspirants a lot, most unfortunately, these things have never been made accessible and available to our aspirants in any of our music institutions or music departments as all these book-writers are performers only but not teachers at all. Again to fill in this void I have struggled a lot at my own level in bringing out four books, AMS Easy Methods-2007 in teaching/learning music, Sangita Svararaga Sudha, Sangita Vidyabodhini and Sangita Vidyalochani all with notations and supplied along with pre-recorded CDs.

Right from the beginning having also worked as a teacher and by the grace of the Almighty having that kind of bent of mind also I had struggled hard at my own level to make such videos for the educational purpose of the aspirants and to keep them for free-usage in ‘youtube’ for the benefit of the aspirants all over the globe. But, unfortunately, while none of our musicians is ready to do such helpful acts for the benefit of our kids many of them are readily utilizing them in one way or the other for their own benefit.

If our great legends, maestros and experts do not feel their duties and responsibilities and do the needful towards our society what and how much a common man like me can alone do to our great and large society I cannot understand?

As told by many that ‘lady is the enemy to all ladies’, I can give umpteen examples which prove that ‘musicians are the real enemies of our music than others’. amsharma
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#182 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 03 Aug 2014, 17:09

Nearly 10 years back one Violin-aspirant asked me whether he could get any videos of the Violin-trinity, MSG-Lalgudi-Chandrashekharan which facilitate him to learn Varnas by following them. By this I felt extremely unhappy of it and was compelled to tell him that not even a single video of any one of them made for the educational purpose is available to facilitate him to learn Varnas.

Particularly, in respect of Violin even though it was imported from western countries, our South Indians predominantly used it mainly for accompaniment in our music concerts. In this process many persons worked hard in finding several new techniques to make it more suitable for the purpose. Among them Shri M.S.Gopalakrishnan, Shri Lalgudi G.Jayaraman and Shri M. Chandrashekharan stand far above all others as trend-setters in the history of Violin having introduced numerous new techniques in Violin-playing. Having a little acquaintance with Shri MSG, with his blessings, I was able to follow very few of his Violin-playing techniques (once he very kindly allowed me even to accompany him on Violin on 09-04-1974 in his Solo-concert at Hyderabad). To properly equip myself with more efficiency I have also followed the audio-recordings and could grasp some of the techniques of Shri Lalgudi too.

Having accompanied all the stalwarts of Carnatic music all over the globe in thousands of their concerts this Violin-trinity successfully acquired the full knowledge of all of them. In particular, in respect of Ragalapana, I sincerely feel that their renditions are the ultimate in respect of any Raga. That is why I have cut all their Raga-renditions from the audio-recordings of all their Solo or accompanying concerts and given them to my disciples to follow them.

In fact, who ever learns music always prefers to mostly perform and shine well. More over, as the music environment at Chennai is at very high level always all the aspirants there mostly develop the performer’s perspective far more than the teacher’s perspective to avail the opportunities in becoming successful performers. However, due to so many other reasons many will be compelled to settle as teachers despite their inabilities in teaching which they themselves are not aware of. Even this Violin-trinity was always engaged in developing their performing techniques far more than the teaching techniques. Accordingly, none of them ever found time even to think of preserving their rare and invaluable techniques of Violin-play to the posterity. However, their kith and kin somehow managed to learn some of their techniques basing upon their individual abilities.

In the field of Carnatic music, in general, Vocal musicians are always used to dominate the field much and accordingly, in Chennai, not only in musicians but also either in the music-listeners or in music-lovers or in institutions everybody gives preference to Vocal only and none of them ever thinks that instrumental-aspirants very much need the videos of the stalwarts mostly focusing upon their finger-techniques to follow them. But, most of them strived hard only to preserve hundreds of audio-recordings of the music-concerts but none had ever cared to make videos of the rare finger-techniques of the instrumentalists for educational purpose and preserve them for the posterity. Thus, very sadly, we all have lost the invaluable treasure of rare finger-techniques of Violin-play of the Trinity for ever and nobody even feels bad for this.

Very importantly, while dealing with the crucial Varnas Shri MSG and Shri Lalgudi followed entirely different techniques. While Shri MSG was used to play mostly on a single string Shri Lalgudi was used to play on all the strings. Among them each one has its own effect and difficulty too in following them. By going through many of the audio-recordings of Shri Lalgudi I have arrived at some specific finger-techniques of Violin-play which pave way to produce our traditional Carnatic music with high efficiency and also to increase the aspirant’s abilities abundantly. All these things have undoubtedly been proved in my extensive research in this respect. To efficiently follow them, basing upon certain logic and rationale, I have formulated some new finger-exercises to be practiced with and without bow too. By practicing them along with the different varieties in playing Varnas in these two different finger-techniques aspirants are becoming able to get reasonable control over the instrument in a very short time. By following these finger-techniques the kids are able to learn up to 9 select Varnas very efficiently and very quickly. Later, by regularly practicing them in different kinds along with several rhythmical and musical exercises they are becoming able to play even intricate Swarakalpana and brief Ragalapana for a few Kritis learning them on their own hardly within a span of 3 or 4 years unbelievably. In the same manner 9 years old Chi. Rishabh Ranganathan of USA has been trained and also won the first prize in a competition held there very recently.

To make these techniques of playing Varnas accessible to our aspirants I have myself played all these 9 select Varnas segment-wise for each of the Pallavi, Anupallavi, Muktayi-swara, Charana and all Ettugada-swaras in separate and independent video-files mainly focusing on the finger movements only to facilitate the aspirants follow and learn easily. In this process I have also uploaded some Violin-lessons and exercises with and without bow for the first time in the history to ‘youtube.com/user/msakella’ for the free utilization of the aspirants all over the globe. amsharma
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#183 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 22 Sep 2014, 20:44

Yesterday in USA my disciple Chi. Rishabh Ranganathan (just 9 years completed) had played a mini-Karnatak-violin-concert of 38 mts. He was accompanied by another kid Chi. Arjun Ramachandran on Mridangam. In general, many considerations must be given to all the kids when they give such music-concerts as music is the only invisible fine-art on the earth. The concert went on very well and both the kids did beyond their capacities. In fact, they can do still better if they practice together for some more time. They certainly deserve all the appreciations.

To tell the fact, Chi. Rishabh started Vocal from 01-06-2011 and Violin from 14-10-2011 learning from me weekly twice by Skype. I have taught him in my novel method in a time-bound process. Even within the span of hardly 2 years he had shown tremendous progress. Even though I always teach in the same manner to any aspirant if the aspirant shows such tremendous progress the credit must go to the logical and ratioinal system of teaching, the aspirant for his hard work and the parents as they always remain with the aspirant much of the time doing everything in his favour. In this affair I am only a guide vigilantly following him through Skype to always keep him in on track and possibly obstruct him to go off-track.

I hereunder give the URLs of youtube of this concert for the benefit of the aspirants. amsharma

01.Mamavasadajanani-Kanada-Rupakam - http://youtu.be/99sdodNiGsc

02.Sarasijanabhamurare-Todi-Chapu - http://youtu.be/yJkUQvkESMs

03.Geetadhuniku-Dhanasri-Adi-Tillana - http://youtu.be/iB6N1xsca4M
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#184 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 30 Oct 2014, 14:04

Today I have uploaded two Violin-videos played by my disciple Chi. O.Rajashekhar to youtube to the play-list 'AMS-Disciple Chi. O.Rajashekhar's Violin Demos' for the benefit of the Violin-aspirants.

He played ‘Sarasuda-Saveri-Adi-Varna’ on the 4th string only making the Shuddha-madhyama as Shadja.

This is one kind of playing the Varna on a single string of the Violin. In particular, this is followed in MSG’s style of Violin-playing only. amsharma
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#185 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 27 Dec 2014, 16:47

I hereunder furnish the respective urls of the Violin-concert of 10 yr. old Chi. Rishabh Ranganathan (USA), played on 23-12-2014 at Shri Parthasarathyswamy Sabha, Chennai for the benefit of the aspirants.

Even though I have always been used to teach Vocal or Violin in the same manner basing upon the novel and logical methods in learning to any of my disciples they will flourish much basing upon their own hard work and the encouragement given by their parents like in the case of Chi.Rishabh.

Enjoy the concert. amsharma

http://youtu.be/RV09LpP4-LU
http://youtu.be/4d-uI2ODtFY
http://youtu.be/dyPACcsPZpA
http://youtu.be/rcJezeSlXTw
http://youtu.be/xV4-4ADABT8
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#186 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 20 Nov 2016, 17:05

We can bring out many shapes out of a soft mud and also disturb them to change the shape again every time. But, if the mud hardens we cannot do so. In the same manner it is very easy to properly initiate a little kid of below 10 years of age with a clean-slate in all these things than an elder. But, very sadly, the elders are not ready to realize this fact.

To make the kid properly understand and follow the different oscillation of our notes I, without singing or playing the violin myself and ask the kid follow me as per this modern system, initiate the kid in learning by playing some select exercises and items in a particular seriatim. By doing so he/she very easily, quickly and efficiently moves forward unlike an elder.

Only to serve this purpose I have brought out more than 60 symbols along with the detailed notation and the audio-file, for the first time in the history. All our kids are able to understand and follow them very easily, quickly and efficiently as I demonstrate them in person if needed. In the absence of such demonstrations it may be difficult to follow them for elders in this performance-oriented fine-art.

Interested aspirants can come on Skype (msakella2002) for proper guidance, if needed. amsharma
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#187 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 03 Jan 2017, 16:20

In the olden days, in the absence of any reliable sound-recording or reproducing gadgets, the aspirant was compelled to depend upon others to listen to or learn music. Unfortunately, this paved way to perennially make the poor aspirant dependent upon the so called Gurus elongating the process for many years as the teacher likes.

But, even after the invention of such gadgets there is no change in the process of learning as such change very drastically reduces both the importance and income of the teacher. However, keeping the plight of the poor aspirants and their parents I have made extensive experiments upon these methods in learning music and, ultimately, brought out several videos containing different exercises for the benefit of the aspirants which are being followed by the honest and efficient teachers only. Thus, since last two years, I have initiated my student, Chi. Padmini Gopinath (USA), weekly twice by Skype in playing them even without playing myself on Violin at all. This kind of deeds only give me abundant pleasure and satisfaction at this fag end of my life.

As a part of it, now, I have uploaded two groups of them to youtube and furnished the respective urls hereunder for the benefit of the Violin-aspirants all over the globe. amsharma

Group-1:

1. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_4th string_r and g - https://youtu.be/LJAhDuVT_fI

2. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_4th string_r and m - https://youtu.be/nElOYGczL0g

3. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_3rd string_d and rs - https://youtu.be/BI4Up_WgV9E

4. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_3rd string_d and n - https://youtu.be/4fIAYmxwqwU

5. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_2nd string_r and m - https://youtu.be/YEF1BUM1URI

6. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_2nd string_r and g - https://youtu.be/oSBQrsDdGmg

7. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_1st string_d and rs - https://youtu.be/GR-VnLTy1Y4

8. 20161121_AMS_Padmini Gopinath_1st string_d and n - https://youtu.be/pZ46tm6He1s

Group-2:

1. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 1st string N and M - https://youtu.be/Dg2rYB-U68g

2. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 1st string N and G - https://youtu.be/Z3JZoDxEbKc

3. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 1st string N and P - https://youtu.be/viHkOlo4NCg

4. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 1st string N and R - https://youtu.be/evP1RGOLp-g

5. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 2nd string G and S - https://youtu.be/VbsVz8QuqCU

6. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 2nd string G and N - https://youtu.be/Qjf_AOm4GBc

7. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 2nd string G and M - https://youtu.be/-UepHaZ1M74

8. 20161227 AMS Padmini Gopinath 2nd string G and P - https://youtu.be/P9_atO1k13s
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#188 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 15 Jan 2017, 07:45

In continuation to the 185th post of this thread, now, I hereunder furnish the urls of some of the concerts in which Chi. Rishabh Ranganathan, 12 years old resident of USA, had very ably accompanied in the last Chennai December season for the benefit of the aspirants. Among them not only Chi. Rishabh but Chi. Chitramurthy also is my disciple. amsharma

Sri Balasubramanya - Bilahari, Misra chapu (Chithra Murthy, Rishabh & Sudarshan)
https://youtu.be/PMPOf6h3yjY

Sogasuga - Sriranjani, Adi (Rupa, Rishabh, Karun)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHQpJp6tyb0

Sri Valli - Natabhairavi, Adi (Kamaladepthi, Rishabh & Santhosh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-mDIxQ79lc

Srinivasa - Hamsanandhi (Kamaladeepthi, Rishabh & Santhosh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LePagmOv-mQ

Venugana - Kedaragowla (Vishwesh, Rishabh & Kishore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC86RlLXSrU
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#189 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by SrividyaC » 21 Sep 2018, 00:58

Dear guruji
Koti koti pranaams and thank you so so much for such indepth and painstaking efforts that you've undertaken. My heartfelt gratitude to you by luck i have found such a treasure of lessons here. Will definitely practice as you've mentioned. I'm residing currently in texas usa. I have just seen first 2 posts , will take a long time to read the threads and follow the instructions in the posts but i'll do my best and practice.
Namaskarams
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#190 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 21 Sep 2018, 13:30

Dear sister-member, SrividyaC,

Gone through your post and felt happy to know that my Videos and posts are helping the aspirants properly.

If you need any help in this respect you can even talk to my mobile No. 9908822992 or through my Skype ID msakella2002. amsharma
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#191 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by SrividyaC » 25 Sep 2018, 07:09

Thank you so much guruji for your response and giving me your contact. I'll definitely contact you soon. I'm starting with the laya exercises and refining my violin holding, bowing and fingering technique as you've shown in the violin basics videos and the laya exercise practices. I have contacted [email protected] to get your book. So far i never came across such detailed and orderly list of practices. I want to do justice to all the indepth data by doing a good practice. Please give me sometime to practice and upload the youtube videos (so you can review and give ur comment) and then i'll soon contact you. Thank you sir for all your efforts. I feel blessed to have come across it.
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#192 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by SrividyaC » 25 Sep 2018, 09:38

Dear sir
I just finished reading the entire thread and am very motivated and energized to practice and refine my technique seeing all the videos you've shared. It is very eye-opening to read your philosophy that you've shared in the posts along with knowledge about music and violin play. Its changed my view of the violin and practice completely. Thank you for all you're doing sir.
Srividya
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#193 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 08 Feb 2019, 09:31

For the Violinists of Karnataka music, as they are mostly used to accompany somebody or other, they all need very regular and strenuous practice of the instrument to enable them to accompany successfully. To tell the fact, such strenuous excersices are available only in MSG’s style of Violin-play. Eventhough I did not learn direct from this Giant I have been observing, following and practicing different kinds of exercises in the regular practice of the instrument since many years and training many kids on these lines of practice. Some of the videos in which my disciples played some of these exercises are kept in the playlists of ‘youtube.com/user/msakella’ for the ready reference of the aspirants. Now, I hereunder furnish some of their urls also for the benefit of the aspirants. amsharma

https://youtu.be/9loyBr-imGU
https://youtu.be/_YL2X4G_3wA
https://youtu.be/zBs287P14Fw
https://youtu.be/5Oz-lZD6ngU
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#194 Re: Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin

Post by msakella » 28 Mar 2019, 09:07

Always, in any subject, the learning process starts with imitating another person in that subject. Any kid starts learning things by observing the movements of his/her parents, brothers, sisters and elders. While learning even the alphabets he/she repeatedly writes upon the letters already written by others and thus, imitation is the very first step of learning.

But, most unfortunately, in music, in keeping the aspirant perennially dependant upon the so called GURU, our egoistic, conservative and selfish teachers formulated a very illogical system in which the aspirant, without writing anything on the paper, must follow the teacher face to face in listening to and singing music. In this process, they also coined a name, “Manodharmam’ in 1940 for this grammatical points and declared that this should neither be written nor taught nor learnt but could be obtained by vigorous and regular practice only which elongates the process for many years to come. But none of these teachers could tell what loss the aspirant has to incur if these things are written on a paper. But, my extensive expenriments in this respect obviously revealed that, like the list of clothes to be given to the washerman or the bank account, all the details must be noted down to avoid any loss. For example, if we want to celebrate the marriage of our family member, by making a list of things to be attended, we can come to know if anything is missing from that list which facilitates to include them in that list and attend them without fail. In the same manner, even in music, by serially writing the sangatis of a Raga or the patterns of Swarakalpana we can come to know what we forgot to include either in Ragalapana or Swarakalapana. Moreover, the process of learning which is wantonly elongated for more than 10 years or even more by not writing these details has very surprisingly been reduced to a couple of years only by writing the details of Ragalapana and Swarakalpana.

Now, the link of the video is furnished hereunder in which my 13 yrs. old disciple, Chi. T.P.Gopalakrishna, who residing in Vishakhapatnam has been learning Violin mostly by telephone in the “Akella’s method of learning music” since 20180215 had fulfilled the learning of 9 select Varnas both in Chaturashra & Trisra-gatis and now played ‘Ammaravamma-Kalyani-Trisra-rupaka-Kriti’ along with Ragalapana and both creative and mathematical Swarakalpana in the 2nd degree for 1-unit gap. amsharma

https://youtu.be/fDWkWsUjQvo
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