Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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SrinathK
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Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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As Marghazi gets off to a cool and wet start this year, it's time for Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai. So here's the list of ragas in which they are tuned (from other threads).

Thiruppavai (M L V)

1 01-Margazhi Thingal - 02:53 - nATa
2 02-Vaiyathu Vazhveergal - 02:54 - gauLa
3 03-Ongi Ulagalantha - 02:35 - Arabhi
4 04-Azhimazhai Kanna - 03:00 - varALi
5 05-Maayanai Mannu - 02:48 - shrI
6 06-Pullum Silambina Kaan - 02:53 - shankarAbharaNam
7 07-Keesu Keesendruengum - 02:51 - bhairavi
8 08-Kizhvaanam Vellendru - 02:49 - dhanyAsi
9 09-Thoomanimadathu - 02:46 - hamir kalyANi
10 10-Notru Chuvarkam - 02:58 - thODi
11 11-Katrukaravai Kanangal - 03:02 - husEni
12 12-Kanaithilang Katrerumai - 02:56 - kedAragauLa
13 13-Pullinvaai Keendanai - 02:45 - aTHANA
14 14-Ungal Puzhakkadai - 02:51 - Ananda bhairavi
15 15-Elle Elang Kiliye - 02:53 - begaDA
16 16-Nayakannai Nindra - 02:50 - mOhanam
17 17-Ambarame Thaneere - 02:54 - kalyANi
18 18-Unthu Mathakalitran - 02:50 - sAvEri
19 19-Kuthu Vilakkeriya - 02:42 - sahAnA
20 20-Muppathu Moovar Amararku - 02:48 - senchuruTTi
21 21-Yetra Kalangal - 02:56 - nAdanAmakriyA
22 22-Anganma Gnalathu - 02:57 - yamunA kalyANi
23 23-Marailamali Muzhanjil - 02:51 - bilahari
24 24-Andrivvulagam Alanthai - 02:50 - sindhubhairavi
25 25-Oruthimaganai Piranthu - 02:58 - behAg
26 26-Maale Manivanna - 02:47 - kuntalavarALi
27 27-Koodarai Vellum Seer - 03:03 - pUrvikalyANi
28 28-Karavaigal Pin Sendru - 02:49 - kambhOji
29 29-Sitransiru Kaalai - 03:00 - madhyamAvati
30 30-Vanga Kadal Kadaintha - 03:01 - suruTTi

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Re: Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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And also for thiruvempAvai and thirupalliyezhuchi (MLV's rendition) :

1. pOtri yen & Adiyum antamum - bauLi
2. aruNan indiran & pAsam paranjyoti - kEdAram
3. koovina poonguyil & muttana veNNa - bilhari
4. innisai veeNaiyar & oNNithilanagaiyAi - dEvagAndhAri
5. boodangal thOrum & mAlariyA nAn - yadukula kAmbhOji
6. pappara veeTirundu & mAnE nI - khamAs
7. adu pazhacchuvai & annE ivaiyum - reetigauLa
8. muntiya mudal & kozhi chilamba - dhanyAsi
9. viNNaga thEvarum & munnai pazham porutkkum - nATakurinji
10. bhuvaniyil poi & pAtAlam Ezhinum - shuddha sAvEri
11. moyyAr tadam poigai - pUrvikalyANi
12. Artha piravi - shankarAbharaNam
13. painguvaLai - sAvEri
14. kAdAr kuzhaiyADa - karnATaka dEvagAndhAri
15. OrorukkAl - husEni
16. munnikkaDalai - amrtavarshiNi
17. shenkaN avanpAl - vasantabhairavi
18. aNNamalaiyAn - sAmA
19. unkaiyil piLLai - hindOlam
20. poTTriyAruLuganin - maNirangu

ajaysimha
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Re: Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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Thanks for the list.
All the margazhi songs list at one place !!!!
Can you also share ragas for thirupalliyezhuchi sung by mlv

SrinathK
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Re: Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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It is there in Post #2 itself. See carefully the names of the songs. It is both Thiruvempavai and Thirupalliyezuchi

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thanks srinath

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Re: Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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some people sing the 16th thiruppavai in darbAr.

SrinathK
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Re: Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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I should have bumped this up 2 weeks ago.

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Re: Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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Lyrics in tamizh, ragam information and downloadable sources for music given in
https://sites.google.com/site/4mlvasant ... songs/home
https://sites.google.com/site/4mlvasant ... nformation
please visit and share

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Re: Ragas of Thiruppavai and Thiruvempavai

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I have learnt and sing 29 Tiruppaavi Chitranchiru Kale in Malayamarutham

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HarishankarK wrote: 05 Jan 2020, 05:54 I have learnt and sing 29 Tiruppaavi Chitranchiru Kale in Malayamarutham
You seem to be following the tuning by Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iengar.
It appears that there are some differences between the MLV ragams and those of ARI.( a few). I should check up.
We get the tunes by ARI in MIO ( VOL-1 AND VOL-2),. You might have already seen the links.in google.
29 is a great poem in theme.
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MLV Amma deviated from Ariyakudi in three songs — ‘Naayakanai’ (from Darbar to Mohanam), ‘Maari Malai’ (Manirangu to Bilahari) and ‘Chittranchiru’ (Malayamarutham to Madhyamavathi)
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https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/ ... 663072.ece
by Mrs.Sudha Ragunathan

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Not only this, Ariyakudi's mArghazi thingaL was also completely different from the popular version.

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The earlier thread is here.
viewtopic.php?t=26136
POST-18 is confusing. The list should be given in the traditional sequence of the paasurams.
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Am I right in surmising that it was Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iengar who first set the thirty songs of Thiruppaavai to ragams? and sang them?( as suggested by Kanchi Acharya?) Is there any 78 rpm record-set for the songs by him? or CD?
Where can we get the songs in his own voice for paasuram 14 and 15?

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Who tuned Thiruvembavais?

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I think Semmangudi.

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RSR wrote: 06 Jan 2020, 19:32 Where can we get the songs in his own voice for paasuram 14 and 15?
The YouTube channel of AmuthamMusicVideos has several Thiruppavai pasurams sung by Ariyakudi.
This includes pasurams 14 and 15, but a few others are missing. Also, the pasurams are not numbered/ ordered properly.

Here is playlist link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCsL4uk ... VmFsVLfuQx

[Mods: hope i can post this link here. Will be happy to remove it if it's an issue.]

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jshrikanth wrote: 21 Jan 2020, 18:30
RSR wrote: 06 Jan 2020, 19:32 Where can we get the songs in his own voice for paasuram 14 and 15?
The YouTube channel of AmuthamMusicVideos has several Thiruppavai pasurams sung by Ariyakudi.
This includes pasurams 14 and 15, but a few others are missing. Also, the pasurams are not numbered/ ordered properly.

Here is playlist link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCsL4uk ... VmFsVLfuQx

[Mods: hope i can post this link here. Will be happy to remove it if it's an issue.]
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Thank you very much.

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Thank you very much... Very informative.

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